Mega Thread The Random Thoughts Thread Part 1

[Dylan8]

hey man I am a Star wars fan ....i love the old ones always will....but they were made with the premise that lucas wasnt making a dime off the movies.....he made his money off the merchandise and thats why it became kiddy......hence why episode 1-2 were arse....and 3 gained credibility

now disney has the rights....they have stayed true to the lore and story telling of it all....

What are you trying to tell me here?

 

[BIG MATTY WHITE]

If anyone got through more than half an hour of "The Ridiculous 6" on netflix you deserve a medal... Adam Sandler movies straight to netflix from now on is probably a good thing though

I saw the 5 mins.....


And turned it over to bad santa ....

Sandler really lost the plot....the best bit of that 5 minutes was actually admiring how they made the chick from twilight look hot...

 

[El_Scorcho]

Dated as in people watching them now for the first time....

Star wars fans will never see them as dated ....

And i wish i can reply to the rest of your post but I havent figured out the spoiler tag yet

No they really haven't though. They were massively ahead of their time in terms of pacing and structure and people who watch them for the first time in 2015 will love them.

Like, yes, they aren't as crisp and clean and the effects are all manual. But they haven't dated. Just like Labyrinth hasn't dated. Just like Terminator hasn't dated. Classics are classics for a reason.

 

[BIG MATTY WHITE]

What are you trying to tell me here?

Nothing really...

I cant argue with someone who loves the old classics...as I love them too...

 

[BIG MATTY WHITE]

No they really haven't though. They were massively ahead of their time in terms of pacing and structure and people who watch them for the first time in 2015 will love them.

Like, yes, they aren't as crisp and clean and the effects are all manual. But they haven't dated. Just like Labyrinth hasn't dated. Just like Terminator hasn't dated. Classics are classics for a reason.

I cant explain it...but a few of us on here have said it....

this new one made us feel how people would of felt walking out of the cinemas back in the day....

 

[Dylan8]

No they really haven't though. They were massively ahead of their time in terms of pacing and structure and people who watch them for the first time in 2015 will love them.

Like, yes, they aren't as crisp and clean and the effects are all manual. But they haven't dated. Just like Labyrinth hasn't dated. Just like Terminator hasn't dated. Classics are classics for a reason.

For all their CGI the prequels look dated as shit. TFA went back to having a lot of on set puppets and the like which was great.

 

[BIG MATTY WHITE]

For all their CGI the prequels look dated as shit. TFA went back to having a lot of on set puppets and the like which was great.

How about when maul gets killed by obi.....I am sure that was a freaking balloon attached to some cloth when his body fell in 2

 

[El_Scorcho]

I cant explain it...but a few of us on here have said it....

this new one made us feel how people would of felt walking out of the cinemas back in the day....

For all their CGI the prequels look dated as shit. TFA went back to having a lot of on set puppets and the like which was great.

Dylan nails it above.

I know you're saying you can't explain it but I have a funny feeling that's because there's nothing to explain. Give us something to work with.

They just aren't dated, at all. They absolutely hold up.

 

[BIG MATTY WHITE]

Dylan nails it above.

I know you're saying you can't explain it but I have a funny feeling that's because there's nothing to explain. Give us something to work with.

They just aren't dated, at all. They absolutely hold up.

Well...this is the only way I can explain it me personally....have watched all 6 episodes with people who havent seen a star wars movie...(as we were going together to see the new one)...out of the 6 people who watched these episodes ...ALL of them enjoyed the first 3 episodes better then 4 5 and 6....

To us star wars fans ....they are classics.....to non star wars fans....well...

 

[El_Scorcho]

Well...this is the only way I can me personally....have watched all 6 episodes with people who havent seen a star wars movie...(as we were going together to see the new one)...out of the 6 people who watched these episodes ...ALL of them enjoyed the first 3 episodes better then 4 5 and 6....

To us star wars fans ....they are classics.....to non star wars fans....well...

I wasn't alive when Return of the Jedi came out. Phantom Menace came out when I was 13. I liked Star Wars but I was just a kid.

I wasn't some fanboy who the prequels were never going to be good enough for. I was a teenager who had no strong opinions about anything, but if I hadn't been on a date I may have walked out of Attack of the Clones. The Anakin/Padme stuff was soooo baaaddddd.

Dylan is like 14 years old. He was only just born when Phantom Menace came out, let alone the angry nerd fanboy he is today, and yet he's arguing that he far prefers the original trilogy. Your argument doesn't stack up.

I think it's time to face the facts. Your friends are ****ing idiots. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

 

[SilenceOz]

A bit of rose coloured glasses coming up in this thread.

The dialogue in a New hope was stunted as ****.
The Obi/Vader light saber scene was laughable, now I dont expect twirly flipping flashy shit like the prequels but they were just touching their phallic like sabers against each other for a couple minutes and then Obi goes "well thats enough of this" and dies.

Also "It's the ship that made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs."
parsec is a distance unit not a time unit.
So it's the ship that made the Kessel run in less than 19 trillion miles ...lol Lucas.

 

[PatientMental]

A bit of rose coloured glasses coming up in this thread.

The dialogue in a New hope was stunted as ****.
The Obi/Vader light saber scene was laughable, now I dont expect twirly flipping flashy shit like the prequels but they were just touching their phallic like sabers against each other for a couple minutes and then Obi goes "well thats enough of this" and ascends

ftfy.

 

[El_Scorcho]

The dialogue in a New hope was stunted as ****.

Yeah but we're comparing it to the "I don't like sand" speech, so it's doing just fine.

 

[Dylan8]

A bit of rose coloured glasses coming up in this thread.

The dialogue in a New hope was stunted as ****.
The Obi/Vader light saber scene was laughable, now I dont expect twirly flipping flashy shit like the prequels but they were just touching their phallic like sabers against each other for a couple minutes and then Obi goes "well thats enough of this" and dies.

Lightsaber fights were manifestations of what was going on in the movie and were significant to the plot. Was Luke wailing on Darth Vader at the end of Jedi good, choreography wise? Nah, but it was gripping because he lost his shit and was giving in to the dark side. Darth Vader basically toying with Luke in Empire? No triple backflips or anything, but it was brilliant because it was Luke facing Vader for the first time and there was so much tension when the lightsabers clashed.

 

[SilenceOz]

Yeah but we're comparing it to the "I don't like sand" speech, so it's doing just fine.

To be fair, Sand is coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.
That speech would of been better if Anakin wasn't played by Hayden no-talent.

 

[SgtSchulz]

The scenes with Snoke should be reshot as non-cgi.

Would improve the film immensely.

 

[Powerade 08]

"Classics"
"Dated"

Doesn't compute really. They definitely stand up today

Watched them for the first time a couple years ago,

First 2 were ok, 3rd one is dated as ****, couldn't get past the chase scene in the forest and the short people in costume, and it was obvious the big ball thing was going to get blown up in the end, turned it off and never went back to it.

They should have ended it there and never made another.

 

[BIG MATTY WHITE]

I wasn't alive when Return of the Jedi came out. Phantom Menace came out when I was 13. I liked Star Wars but I was just a kid.

I wasn't some fanboy who the prequels were never going to be good enough for. I was a teenager who had no strong opinions about anything, but if I hadn't been on a date I may have walked out of Attack of the Clones. The Anakin/Padme stuff was soooo baaaddddd.

Dylan is like 14 years old. He was only just born when Phantom Menace came out, let alone the angry nerd fanboy he is today, and yet he's arguing that he far prefers the original trilogy. Your argument doesn't stack up.

I think it's time to face the facts. Your friends are ******* idiots. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

My friends arent f***ing idiots....they just have different opinions which you for some reason cant handle...

My argument doesnt stack up because he is a star wars fan..... I am saying star wars fans get the old triology....non star wars fans dont get it...

Me personally love the old classics but none of them gave me the feeling of episode 7....

 

[BIG MATTY WHITE]

Watched them for the first time a couple years ago,

First 2 were ok, 3rd one is dated as ****, couldn't get past the chase scene in the forest and the short people in costume, and it was obvious the big ball thing was going to get blown up in the end, turned it off and never went back to it.

They should have ended it there and never made another.

^see el_scorcho

 

[BIG MATTY WHITE]

A bit of rose coloured glasses coming up in this thread.

The dialogue in a New hope was stunted as ****.
The Obi/Vader light saber scene was laughable, now I dont expect twirly flipping flashy shit like the prequels but they were just touching their phallic like sabers against each other for a couple minutes and then Obi goes "well thats enough of this" and dies.

Also "It's the ship that made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs."
parsec is a distance unit not a time unit.
So it's the ship that made the Kessel run in less than 19 trillion miles ...lol Lucas.

El_scorcho...

 

[Dylan8]

^see el_scorcho

Yeah but Powerade is edgy as shit so

Watched them for the first time a couple years ago,

First 2 were ok, 3rd one is dated as ****, couldn't get past the chase scene in the forest and the short people in costume, and it was obvious the big ball thing was going to get blown up in the end, turned it off and never went back to it.

They should have ended it there and never made another.

The Ewoks are pretty lame. Sorta like a less offensive Jar Jar. But they're useful, at least.

 

[Powerade 08]

^see el_scorcho

The first 2 aren't dated. Being old =/= dated. The practical effects are mostly pretty good. The prequels are even more dated than the originals because 90% of what you see is shitty early years CGI.

 

[BIG MATTY WHITE]

The new one had no sign off ewok or jar jar binks characters

BB8....was great

 

[El_Scorcho]

My friends arent f***ing idiots....they just have different opinions which you for some reason cant handle...

My argument doesnt stack up because he is a star wars fan..... I am saying star wars fans get the old triology....non star wars fans dont get it...

Me personally love the old classics but none of them gave me the feeling of episode 7....

Not liking Star Wars is fine, it's not for everyone. But you have a serious issue with your critical thinking if you're arguing that the prequels are better. All bad is fine. All good is fine. Prequels > Originals is an opinion you're going to have to explain a bit more deeply, because it's an absurd position to take. The prequels are deeply flawed films and a missed opportunity. The original trilogy are timeless classics.

Again, your argument doesn't make sense in regards to Star Wars fans and non-Star Wars fans. Dylan had all 6 movies available to him at the same time, then watched them all and became a fan because of the original trilogy because they are better films. I wasn't the die hard fan I am now when I was 13 and thought Phantom Menace was alright but it wasn't as good as the originals. You're trying to argue that the average person who had no history with Star Wars watching them for the first time would prefer the prequels to the originals because the originals have dated. That's wrong.

You still haven't explained in what way they've dated. You've just skirted around the issue and talked about people that don't even like the movies and their irrelevant opinions. Tell me why they are dated and compare and contrast with the prequel trilogy and Force Awakens.

 

[BIG MATTY WHITE]

The first 2 aren't dated. Being old =/= dated. The practical effects are mostly pretty good. The prequels are even more dated than the originals because 90% of what you see is shitty early years CGI.

people just have different opinions...

Others care more it seems...