Mega Thread The Random Thoughts Thread Part 1

[Rexie J]

As the century progresses and more of the extreme weather conditions predicted increasingly bite the interests of those who think the scientific consensus on anthropological climate change is something some "commie ****ter dreamt up at an atheists' convention", they'll blame Rudd and Gillard for not being getting Copenhagen and the Carbon Tax through.

Reminiscent of the SA Libs whining about increasing power bills for the past 15 years despite them up.privatising ETSA and falsely promising prices wouldn't go up.

Shameless.

Simply for the sake of the discussion. Can you genuinely say the ETSA monopoly wouldn't increase prices? If you agree prices would have increased, can you honestly say they wouldn't be around today's mark. Also, comparing 'today' with 15 years ago simply doesn't work and any part of the business world.

 

[Steve Dore]

And finally someone has come out and said what the real issue is. Not that they were silly to live there, not that they are self centered....but that they have money so screw them. Tall poppy syndrome is alive and well.

They may have paid upwards of $4M for their houses but I strongly suspect that if there was already a seawall in place when they purchased they would have paid a lot more. I certainly don't see these people as tall poppies and I feel the same way towards the woman complaining about the lack of a seawall as I do about people who buy cheap houses near airports or train lines and then want the government do do something about the noise.

...... I'm fairly certain that if poor Joe Citizen living in the vicinity of the Georges River was flooded out and a levy built to stop it happening again that they wouldn't be told "user pays".

Having lived in a couple of flood prone areas, one in NSW and one in QLD, I know that the local council forces you to build above the predicted 100 year flood height at your own expense. In some low lying areas you can't get approval to build at all. For existing houses you can be restricted from doing any improvements that require council approval because the council ultimately wants these houses gone.

One of my brothers-in-law had water up to his ceiling in a flood but neither the local council nor the government did anything to prevent a similar flood level from inundating the town, and his house, again.

 

[manureid]

No, but it buys you a cliff dwelling.

 

[tribey]

Simply for the sake of the discussion. Can you genuinely say the ETSA monopoly wouldn't increase prices? If you agree prices would have increased, can you honestly say they wouldn't be around today's mark. Also, comparing 'today' with 15 years ago simply doesn't work and any part of the business world.

Yeah. The crux was, in the lead up to the privatisation they damped down opposition/concerns by promising prices wouldn't go up.

In opposition, it's been a periodic gripfest about power prices ever since.

It's such shitty political strategy typical of career losers such as Bert "Westies!" Lucas.

 

[Killer Power]

They may have paid upwards of $4M for their houses but I strongly suspect that if there was already a seawall in place when they purchased they would have paid a lot more. I certainly don't see these people as tall poppies and I feel the same way towards the woman complaining about the lack of a seawall as I do about people who buy cheap houses near airports or train lines and then want the government do do something about the noise.

Having lived in a couple of flood prone areas, one in NSW and one in QLD, I know that the local council forces you to build above the predicted 100 year flood height at your own expense. In some low lying areas you can't get approval to build at all. For existing houses you can be restricted from doing any improvements that require council approval because the council ultimately wants these houses gone.

One of my brothers-in-law had water up to his ceiling in a flood but neither the local council nor the government did anything to prevent a similar flood level from inundating the town, and his house, again.

Well as i recall when the Glenelg Swamp flooded some time back it was the local residents who paid for the infrastructure to prevent it happening again.

 

[Steve Dore]

Well as i recall when the Glenelg Swamp flooded some time back it was the local residents who paid for the infrastructure to prevent it happening again.

As they should. What did they buy?

I did notice on the weekend of Mothers' Day that the Patawalonga had been pretty much drained in the anticipation of a big rainfall. I seems the council wasn't taking any chances on the floodgate not automatically opening again and Glenelg North being flooded.

 

[Rexie J]

Yeah. The crux was, in the lead up to the privatisation they damped down opposition/concerns by promising prices wouldn't go up.

In opposition, it's been a periodic gripfest about power prices ever since.

It's such shitty political strategy typical of career losers such as Bert "Westies!" Lucas.

Nicely avoided Tribey. I normally enjoy your posts but that was simply crap. Answer the questions or has your political bias/affiliation clouded your normally astute observations.

BTW. I am not and will never have any political affiliation and I detest Lucas.

I suggest you also research the cost of phone calls prior to and after privatisation. I recall the then CEO of the Telecom monopoly, there was no way prices could be reduced. When removed from Govt control and competition introduced, prices dropped significantly. And while you are at it, check the cost of sending a letter/parcel these days via Oz Post.

Don't cherry pick Tribey.

 

[Killer Power]

As they should. What did they buy?

I did notice on the weekend of Mothers' Day that the Patawalonga had been pretty much drained in the anticipation of a big rainfall. I seems the council wasn't taking any chances on the floodgate not automatically opening again and Glenelg North being flooded.

That was a typo, should have read that residents didn't pay

 

[Steve Dore]

Walked past a copy of the Advertiser in the lunch bar earlier and this. I'm an amateur but looks as photoshopped as hell. Please tell me they have been taken for a ride!

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That reminds me a lot of this pic I snapped a couple of years ago when I was on the beach at Grange watching the Sunday morning recovery session.

 

[Steve Dore]

That was a typo, should have read that residents didn't pay

So what didn't they pay for? The Barcoo Outlet?

 

[Killer Power]

So what didn't they pay for? The Barcoo Outlet?

At the Pat? The council and state govt ponied up

 

[Steve Dore]

At the Pat? The council and state govt ponied up

Part of that was paid for as part of the Holdfast Shores development and the Barcoo Outlet was state government funded. It is part of a flood mitigation plan for western Adelaide. The increasing storm water run off into the Pat was caused by increased development in suburban Adelaide and created a flooding threat where their previously wasn't one. Not the same as people who built in a known flood prone area having public money spent to make their homes safe.

 

[edgie]

So back to the start and the irony of the original post which was effectively "why are these people who brought it on themselves so upset about their houses when they should be thinking about those people who chose to drive into flood waters despite much warning".

Do you think that becausepeople have money they don't experience these things? Money doesn't buy happiness.

She said "the worst thing possible". Not one of or anything like that, unequivocally it was "the worst". It wouldn't even be the worst thing to happen to a lot of Aussie people this week. I just wonder how some people can make it to a point in their life where some slapped together plaster and brick falls down a mountain to end up kissing dirt, hurting nobody, can become the worst thing that possibly could have happened to them.

PS money does buy happiness, not as much happiness as positive human interaction or ports winning, but it does.





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[Dylan8]

I'm assuming that's because it was in the moment she'd lost her house and people always exaggerate stuff even in nontraumatic situations.

 

[HugeJohnson]

Just ate about 20 mushies I'll see you guys in Jupiter

 

[LukeSA]

Just ate about 20 mushies I'll see you guys in Jupiter

Champignons aren't hallucinogenic.

 

[I Dont Care]

Just ate about 20 mushies I'll see you guys in Jupiter

I think some of us are heading for Venus. Wharfie is going to Uranus. I'm staying here, because I need a climate change

 

[I Dont Care]

That is one of the funniest things I've seen since Monty Python

 

[bomberclifford]

Folk in the country lose their house to flood/bushfire: "Terrible, how sad, look at this Facebook meme."
Folk on the beachfront lose their houses to a freak weather event: "Ha! LOL, sucked in richies."

Straya.

 

[bomberclifford]

Champignons aren't hallucinogenic.

They are if you snort them.

 

[bomberclifford]

Just ate about 20 mushies I'll see you guys in Jupiter

I have a very long story about a month in Amsterdam, a couple of packets of dried mushrooms and an Italian called Nico who couldn't speak English and had a shed load of eurocoke.

Thank **** they didn't have social media back then.

 

[Dylan8]

"Terrible, how sad, look at this Facebook meme."

wait
what

 

[bomberclifford]

wait
what

A shared image of a burnt out home with some words of pathos is as much a meme as Nic Cage with bees on his face.

 

[Dylan8]

A shared image of a burnt out home with some words of pathos is as much a meme as Nic Cage with bees on his face.

Right, because I burst out laughing about the sudden pivot from burned homes to memes.

 

[Rexie J]

http://indai.ly/232513

An excellent article from Indaily. So South Oz!. Speaking from experience in setting my own industrial wholesale business, I was bombarded with senior management people threatening to run me out of SA. A close friend, an electrical engineer was frozen out of contract negotiations. Could go on.

One of the reasons I like Hong Kong so much is the people acknowledge and applaud those who make good. They don't put people in convenient 'little boxes'. A great place.