The rankings (from best to worst) of the 124 VFL-AFL premiership teams.

[steelebottom22]

You've either forgotten Leon Davis

Leon Davis

Age

42

Ht

177cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.5

3star

K

10.2

4star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.0

1star

K

3.6

2star

HB

1.4

2star

M

1.2

2star

T

0.4

3star

G

0.4

3star

or are trolling.

Nah Leon was deployed as a decoy in 02 and 03 I think he played his role

 

[tandino]

Nah Leon was deployed as a decoy in 02 and 03 I think he played his role

2010? He didn't even get selected for the second game.

 

[tandino]

Good thread by the way. Fast become a grand final tradition.

 

[roacheee]

How lucky have Richmond been??? Dan only rates our three premierships in four years at 73, 81 and 83.

So many anomalies in this list it is not funny. Give it up Dan... stick to making ladders adjusted to match ratio

essendon fan (delusional)
from werribee (giant crap farm)

 

[Roobs321]

West Coast 1992 way too low... where have you factored in travel and the fact that they achieved something that no other team EVER will..... the first to take the cup out of Victoria.
I think that achievement is often understated.

Some of our worst 90s form came in the first several weeks of '92, still outside the top 6 in Rnd10, and entered finals in 4th.

R1 - Bye
R2 - lose to Sydney by 3
R3 - beat Saints by 33
R4 - lose to Geelong by 24 (at home, conceded 95pts in 1st half)
R5 - draw Brisbane (first time they hadn't lost to us)
R6 - beat Tigers by 1
R7 - lose to Roys by 20

So by end R7, we'd failed to beat the bottom 4 from '91. West Coast won just as many games (21) in '91 as they did, combined!

We are failing to win in places like the SCG, Carrara, North Hobart. i.e. places that Vic teams would have to travel to as well.

 

[Roobs321]

A lot of annual shtposting in this thread by the way. Some aspects of the list may appear flawed or we might disagree here and there, but generally it is a really solid, exhaustive attempt, and I'm content with the Richmond 2020 placing. I don't see too many others trying. Thanks Dan26, keep at it.

 

[HG Pennypacker]

A lot of annual shtposting in this thread by the way. Some aspects of the list may appear flawed or we might disagree here and there, but generally it is a really solid, exhaustive attempt, and I'm content with the Richmond 2020 placing. I don't see too many others trying. Thanks Dan26, keep at it.

Why would anyone try? It’s impossible to compare sides from vastly different eras. As for exhaustive - the top 21 teams get a small paragraph and the bottom 11 a brief comment. Sides 22 to 113 are just listed without any comment given as to the order. Probably because it’s a monumental exercise in pointlessness.

I am guilty of what you might call shitposting but I have also given extended, measured comment and analysis which is either ignored or replied with things like ‘classier’ or ‘aura’

its an annual list for an Essendon fan starved of sucess to remind himself they were a good team 20 years ago and every decision that comes down to Essendon vs some other team invariably ends up going the bombers way for various intangible reasons, even in the face of clear statistical evidence to the contrary

 

[Bungeye]

The 2011 Collingwood team have the best ever percentage in the history of the game and is deservedly recognised as the greatest team of all time.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Why would anyone try? It’s impossible to compare sides from vastly different eras. As for exhaustive - the top 21 teams get a small paragraph and the bottom 11 a brief comment. Sides 22 to 113 are just listed without any comment given as to the order. Probably because it’s a monumental exercise in pointlessness.

I am guilty of what you might call shitposting but I have also given extended, measured comment and analysis which is either ignored or replied with things like ‘classier’ or ‘aura’

its an annual list for an Essendon fan starved of sucess to remind himself they were a good team 20 years ago and every decision that comes down to Essendon vs some other team invariably ends up going the bombers way for various intangible reasons, even in the face of clear statistical evidence to the contrary

I like how those teams that beat Essendon in GFs (Brisbane 2001) or denied them a shot at the flag (Sydney 1995 and North 1999) are punished in the rankings

 

[steelebottom22]

2010? He didn't even get selected for the second game.

I was being sarcastic mate

 

[tandino]

I was being sarcastic mate

Whoosh.

 

[Ron The Bear]

A few stats...

The 2020 Richmond team ranked fourth-lowest of any premier for halves won (i.e. 1st & 2nd qtr = a half, 3rd & 4th qtr = a half):

43.3% Fitzroy 1916
52.1% Essendon 1993
52.6% Fitzroy 1922
57.1% Richmond 2020
57.5% Fitzroy 1905
57.9% Melbourne 1900
58.0% Hawthorn 1976
58.0% West Coast 2018
58.7% Carlton 1945
59.5% Carlton 1914

They were equal 95th for quarters won and equal 57th for ends (1st & 3rd qtr, 2nd & 4th qtr) won.

Essendon 2000 ranks #1 for each of these (78.0% Q, 86.0% H, 92.0% E).

Richmond's flags ordered by an average of these figures:

Year​	Quarters​	% won​	Halves​	% won​	Ends​	% won​	Avg Rank​	Dan26​
1967​	eq 50th​	63.8​	eq 37th​	72.5​	eq 21st​	72.5​	36.0​	41st​
1980​	eq 17th​	68.0​	eq 70th​	68.0​	eq 43rd​	68.0​	43.3​	62nd​
2019​	eq 45th​	64.0​	eq 98th​	64.0​	eq 43rd​	68.0​	62.0​	83rd​
1974​	82nd​	60.4​	50th​	70.8​	eq 57th​	66.7​	63.0​	33rd​
1932​	eq 58th​	62.5​	eq 93rd​	65.0​	eq 50th​	67.5​	67.0​	47th​
1934​	eq 83rd​	60.0​	eq 51st​	70.0​	eq 111th​	57.5​	81.7​	71st​
2017​	111th​	56.0​	eq 51st​	70.0​	eq 100th​	60.0​	87.3​	81st​
1973​	106th​	56.7​	eq 105th​	61.5​	eq 55th​	67.3​	88.7​	89th​
2020​	eq 95th​	58.3​	121st​	57.1​	eq 57th​	66.7​	91.0​	73rd​
1920​	105th​	56.9​	eq 60th​	69.4​	108th​	58.3​	91.0​	84th​
1969​	86th​	59.8​	92nd​	65.2​	97th​	60.9​	91.7​	74th​
1921​	eq 113th​	55.3​	101st​	63.2​	eq 98th​	60.5​	104.0​	121st​
1943​	119th​	54.2​	108th​	61.1​	eq 95th​	61.1​	107.3​	97th​

There's a rough correlation, but what's apparent from this is that Richmond is a club which has a habit of peaking at the right time of the season.

I'm reasonably content with the order produced by this crude statistical method and concur with its suggestion that 2019 was comfortably the strongest of the modern trio.

For the record, Dan's top 10 on these three measures returned

Year​	Premiers	Quarters​	% won​	Halves​	% won​	Ends​	% won​
2000​	Essendon	1st​	78.0​	1st​	86.0​	1st​	92.0​
1929​	Collingwood	6th​	72.5​	eq 5th​	80.0​	eq 3rd​	80.0​
1956​	Melbourne	eq 93rd​	58.8​	eq 51st​	70.0​	eq 84th​	62.5​
1989​	Hawthorn	8th​	70.8​	eq 8th​	79.2​	eq 9th​	75.0​
1950​	Essendon	7th​	71.3​	4th​	82.5​	eq 21st​	72.5​
2007​	Geelong	4th​	73.0​	eq 5th​	80.0​	14th​	74.0​
2011​	Geelong	eq 28th​	66.0​	21st​	76.0​	eq 30th​	70.0​
1908​	Carlton	26th​	66.3​	eq 5th​	80.0​	eq 30th​	70.0​
1955​	Melbourne	eq 13th​	68.8​	2nd​	85.0​	eq 21st​	72.5​
1988​	Hawthorn	12th​	69.8​	eq 22nd​	75.0​	19th​	72.9​

Teams that pushed into the top 10 on quarters/halves/ends won were Brisbane 2002 (2nd), Carlton 1979 (4th), Hawthorn 2015 (eq 5th) and Collingwood 1902 (10th).

Hawthorn fared very well using this method with 6 of the top 22 teams, ahead of Carlton 4, Essendon/Melbourne/Collingwood 3, Geelong 2 and Brisbane 1. Best for other clubs were Richmond 1967 (eq 29th), Port Adelaide 2004 (40th), Fitzroy 1913 (eq 45th), Sydney 1918 (48th), West Coast 1994 (50th), North Melbourne 1996 (54th), St.Kilda 1966 (eq 69th), Adelaide 1998 (81st), Western Bulldogs 1954 (92nd).

Best teams not to win the flag - Geelong 2008, West Coast 1991, Collingwood 2011, Geelong 2010, St.Kilda 2009, Collingwood 1935, Sydney 2014, Collingwood 1905, Geelong 1989, South Melbourne 1934, Hawthorn 2012, Melbourne 1963, Essendon 2001. Other clubs: Fitzroy 1900 (16th), GWS 2016 (18th), Brisbane 1999 (21st), Carlton 1986 (23rd), Adelaide 2017 (26th), Richmond 2018 (50th), Footscray 1953 (eq 62nd), North Melbourne 1974 (84th), Port Adelaide 2001 (96th), Fremantle 2013 (98th), University 1909 (eq 609th), Gold Coast 2014 (888th).

 

[Thrawn]

I like how those teams that beat Essendon in GFs (Brisbane 2001) or denied them a shot at the flag (Sydney 1995 and North 1999) are punished in the rankings

North didn't deny them a shot at the flag, we did!

And I reckon if Kouta was healthy in the latter stages of 2000 we would've toppled them too.