Toast The Renaissance of Ollie Wines

[OnTheWagon]

He was $7.50 two night ago, good odds

$1.80 for top five on SB. Very tempting to load up but knowing my luck he'll get injured.

 

[Andre]

Inb4 he gets 2 votes in the games we win and an opposition player gets the 3.

The more common one is Port get the 1 and 3 votes, opposition player gets the 2. Yet the flip side of a Port player getting in the votes in a loss is much much rarer.

Umpires suffer recency bias, so if a player does very well later in the game after an average first half they are much more likely to get in the votes than doing very well in the first half and average in the second. So taking the foot off our opponents throats in last quarters - a Port speciality both under Hinkley and Choco - often has given the umpires a skewed impression of who was dominant. I'll always argue Choco's infamous easing off in last quarters let opponents steal 1 and 2 votes in the year Wanganeen was 1 vote off a second Brownlow. With this the reason he just missed out. The same easing off (though not exactly for the same reasons) is likely to cost Wines a real chance this year.

 

[yepits2020]

Our best player and in the best ten in the competition. It would be great to elevate to the best two or three.

 

[Brian McGee]

Our best player and in the best ten in the competition. It would be great to elevate to the best two or three.

Needs to add kicking more goals in to his game to get there. It’s what has seperated bont from the rest this year.

 

[Powerade 08]

Needs to add kicking more goals in to his game to get there. It’s what has seperated bont from the rest this year.

Wines kicks important goals all the time. The thing he needs to do is not let good teams get a jump on us in the first qtr.

 

[Brian McGee]

Wines kicks important goals all the time. The thing he needs to do is not let good teams get a jump on us in the first qtr.

He does need to do that I agree, but for context he has kicked 4 goals this year. That’s not all the time, even if he could get his average up to a goal a game, that’s what will put him in that upper echelon that was mentioned in my eyes. The comparison I made in bont has kicked 18 at an average of 1.4.

 

[Schulzenfest]

He does need to do that I agree, but for context he has kicked 4 goals this year. That’s not all the time, even if he could get his average up to a goal a game, that’s what will put him in that upper echelon that was mentioned in my eyes. The comparison I made in bont has kicked 18 at an average of 1.4.

Bont is the best player in the league by far right now on form. He also spends a lot more time playing forward than Ollie does. It's like expecting Ollie to kick has many goals as Robbie Gray. Of course he won't, one is a full time mid and one is a 50/50 forward mid.

 

[Tibbs]

Bont is the best player in the league by far right now on form. He also spends a lot more time playing forward than Ollie does. It's like expecting Ollie to kick has many goals as Robbie Gray. Of course he won't, one is a full time mid and one is a 50/50 forward mid.

Yeah, Ollie plays a different type of game to Bont, who while he undoubtedly is a great player, is also helped by having 4 elite midfielders feeding him.

 

[Brian McGee]

Bont is the best player in the league by far right now on form. He also spends a lot more time playing forward than Ollie does. It's like expecting Ollie to kick has many goals as Robbie Gray. Of course he won't, one is a full time mid and one is a 50/50 forward mid.

I know this, the argument came around trying to get Ollie to be one of the best few players in the league. Bont is clear number 1 this year in my view. All those guys that have had massive seasons like Martin, Dangerfield, bont this year etc all were midfielders that added a forward element to their game that elevated them to the absolute elite. I think Ollie is a great mid, and does what he does very well, but i think that if he wants to be in that company developing forward craft is important. It’s something he should be able to do as well with his size and ability overhead.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Ollie burned it a bit tonight but 43 disposals, 23 contested possessions, 13 clearances, 8 inside 50s, 7 tackles and 6 score involvements.

Best on ground by a street.

He has been a behemoth this year. Quadzilla has grown up.

 

[robbo1981]

Glad we signed him for 6yrs lol absolute beast mode loving his work

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

Do midfield bulls win Brownlows? I feel it's generally reserved for the flashy guys.

 

[finbarr]

Ollie may have burned it a bit but he was putting his body into everything.

I mean, Roger James' first quarter against St Kilda in the 2004 Prelim has become a thing of legend on this board and he burned pretty much every disposal he had, so cut Ollie some slack is what i'm saying.

 

[robbo1981]

Do midfield bulls win Brownlows? I feel it's generally reserved for the flashy guys.

Bloody hope so 80/1 thankyou very much but like boaky who I had a massive odds last yr will come 2nd bookmark it

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Bloody hope so 80/1 thankyou very much but like boaky who I had a massive odds last yr will come 2nd bookmark it

Could hedge that for a guaranteed payday at this point.

 

[robbo1981]

Could hedge that for a guaranteed payday at this point.

Just checked Ladbrokes offering $202 to cash out of potential$1620 and sports bet not offering cash out on$810 win.
Let it ride I say and if he was to win it and we win the flag have $25 on to win 19.5k lol

 

[The Floodbuster]

Ollie would have to be up there with the Bont.

Although Boak may have taken some votes I think Macrae and Smith would have taken a few off the Bont in early rounds.

It may come down to Rd 23.

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[JB1989]

I truly think Ollie has a decent chance at the brownlow. Even in our losses he has a good chance of a vote or 2.

 

[Wargreymon90]

Ollie definitely had a chance. Although I have to say, Bontempelli has been the best player in the competition by a mile

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Do midfield bulls win Brownlows? I feel it's generally reserved for the flashy guys.

Like Mitchell and Pridis?

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[TeeKray]

I'm sure he'll get like 34 votes and come second, as is the Port Adelaide tradition.

 

[Granny Duurs is Lovely]

Bont will win the brownlow but Darcy Parish is coming home like a freight train and is likely to surpass Ollie unfortunately.

Parish is averaging 36.2 disposals since round 7 and has won just about every medal in basically every prime time match (cause Essendon).

 

[FishingRick04]

Ollie burned it a bit tonight but 43 disposals, 23 contested possessions, 13 clearances, 8 inside 50s, 7 tackles and 6 score involvements.

Best on ground by a street.

He has been a behemoth this year. Quadzilla has grown up.

Just don’t let him water ski

 

[Powerage]

Ollie burned it a bit tonight but 43 disposals, 23 contested possessions, 13 clearances, 8 inside 50s, 7 tackles and 6 score involvements.

Best on ground by a street.

He has been a behemoth this year. Quadzilla has grown up.

An inside mids triple double. I wonder if those are the most outstanding triple double figures this season. Or even longer? 3 more tackles and it would have been a quadruple double. Needs to lift his work rate...

 

[Pappagallo]

I'm sure he'll get like 34 votes and come second, as is the Port Adelaide tradition.

Lol you know it’s gonna happen. They’ll give him some harsh 2s and Bont a couple of generous 3s and that’ll be that.