The Rendell Fiasco

[PrideOf]

Re: Rendell Says the club will only recruit Aboriginals that have one white parent

I'm bloody sad Rendell has quit. We've lost an asset in our club. Right response by the club though, we don't need that hanging over us - and it would have with every day Rendell stayed on staff.

But three particular things about this whole mess:

1. Rendell is a moron for airing a quote like that ANYWHERE. Surely he'd know that in a politically correct society with complete media saturation that even if you think it you don't say it. (And for those who say he should never have thought it in the first place, I've heard the phrase 'he was just saying what other recruiters were thinking' about half a dozen times in the past 24 hours. The whole recruiting community is racist based on that comment.) And yes, I know, if that's the case they should all stop thinking it but they aren't being asked to defend themselves in the media this morning. Only Rendell is ... because he said something.

2. The AFL is becoming more like the mafia. Rendell's comment was made in a meeting, which was then made public. Obviously Vlad is recording everything to use against you later on.

How about Vlad picks up the phone, calls Trigg and says I want a meeting with you, Rendell and Mifsud. Put the comments to Rendell and ask him to explain. If he can't, he is gone.

Because the AFL's responses sometimes come because they don't like someone, want to nobble a club or make themselves look like heroes for 'exposing' comments or people. Or the reverse - they let clubs get away with murder because it would be bad for their business to rightly punish or even investigate them ... hello Carlton.

3. The footy media makes me sick. Bernie Vince should be nailed to a tree because he drank two beers and sang songs in his boxers; Liam Jurrah has been arrested for allegedly trying to cut a bloke in half with a machete and he has been treated with kid gloves. Not because there have been charges laid but because of his race. Which, logically, is kind of racist in itself.

 

[DaftPunk]

Re: Rendell Says the club will only recruit Aboriginals that have one white parent

Yeah it's all about 'political correctness', I mean why can't Rendell draw an arbitrary line between 'too aboriginal to draft' and 'has been influenced enough by the calm and guiding hand of the white man to be able to handle the rigours of civilised society'? Surely there's nothing wrong with a discriminatory policy towards a group who is already the most disenfranchised in Australia?

And another thing, why can't I use the 'N' word? It's political correctness gone mad is what it is.

I'm ashamed to support the same club as some of you morons

I think the majority of supporters accept his resignation and accept that it was a stupid comment. But the way this was pursued and the way the AFC just bent over and took it is what annoys most supporters.

 

[Bicks]

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I think the majority of supporters accept his resignation and accept that it was a stupid comment. But the way this was pursued and the way the AFC just bent over and took it is what annoys most supporters.

My thoughts too..

A couple of weeks ago a hacker hacked the AFL website and left a message along the lines that "Dimwitrou was Eddie's bitch", well I'll tell you the AFC is definately Vlad's bitch, absolutely no doubt about it!!!.

 

[Geoffa32]

Re: Rendell Says the club will only recruit Aboriginals that have one white parent

Yeah it's all about 'political correctness', I mean why can't Rendell draw an arbitrary line between 'too aboriginal to draft' and 'has been influenced enough by the calm and guiding hand of the white man to be able to handle the rigours of civilised society'? Surely there's nothing wrong with a discriminatory policy towards a group who is already the most disenfranchised in Australia?

And another thing, why can't I use the 'N' word? It's political correctness gone mad is what it is.

I'm ashamed to support the same club as some of you morons

Well said. His comments were a disgrace. To suggest that we wont recruit a player purely because he does not have one white parent is racism.


IMO this is just his views and not the club. Afterall we as a club have given Richard Tambling a second chance, and I believe he has two Aboriginal parents. He grew up in remote NT and lived a nomadic lifestyle as a kid. One of the few players in the AFL to have such a background.


Randell has worked at other clubs, maybe a look at Port and St Kilda's recruting since he was at their club could be interesting?

 

[Cap]

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Well said. His comments were a disgrace. To suggest that we wont recruit a player purely because he does not have one white parent is racism.


IMO this is just his views and not the club. Afterall we as a club have given Richard Tambling a second chance, and I believe he has two Aboriginal parents. He grew up in remote NT and lived a nomadic lifestyle as a kid. One of the few players in the AFL to have such a background.


Randell has worked at other clubs, maybe a look at Port and St Kilda's recruting since he was at their club could be interesting?

So yes he has recruited aboriginal players with two aboriginal parents, so that doesn't make you think the comments may have been taken out of context?

 

[cmndstab]

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I don't think anyone is saying that Rendell should be sacked for the intention of his comments - assuming the intentions of his comments was, as he stated, to shed light on the need for increased counselling services to help kids from remote backgrounds to make the transition to big city living and the glare of the limelight.

If Rendell said something like the above, then yes, the club should have stood up for him.



However, the sound bite we've received does not read like the above. It's very offensive, overtly racist, and cannot be tolerated.

There is only one question here - did Rendell actually say the quote that has been attributed to him. If so, then intention is not relevant. The quote, on it's own, is clearly sufficient to see him sacked. A professional in his position should have known better.

Presumably a thorough investigation was carried out before the AFL decided to take action here, and I have no doubt the Crows would have checked that this was the case before making their decision.



Unless there is another facet to this story that has not yet been revealed, the Crows had absolutely no choice. It is not Misfud, or Demetriou, or Trigg, or Chapman that has "ruined Rendell's career and reputation". It is Rendell's loose comment that has done that, and he has nobody to blame but himself.

 

[Geoffa32]

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So yes he has recruited aboriginal players with two aboriginal parents, so that doesn't make you think the comments may have been taken out of context?

Does his job have much to do with trading players? Or is that the List Manager in David Noble.

I thought his job was purely in drafting the kids.


His views can not be defended. He is suggesting that if your Aboriginal with two Aboriginal parents you can not play AFL football. That is racism.

 

[LC40]

Re: The Yes man that is Steven Trigg

I'm no Steven Trigg fan at all.

IMO he over analyses and over emphasises every issue he deals with.
His double speak and gobblely gook is straight out of the Neil Craig book on 'processes, structures and systems' with a few "'it's a good point you make" "we're doing our darnedest" and "let me assure you" thrown in.

His muddling approach to Adelaide oval was half baked and his dealings with the AFL in front of the media is full of clichés and apologies.
His standard "Behind closed doors we are working hard to get the best outcome for the Adelaide football club" reeks of subservient diplomacy.
How about from time to time calling a spade a spade and not hiding behind 'brand Adelaide.'

His handling of the Bernie Vince issue was I feel insipid and he should have actually backed his player and demonstrated some loyalty as Vince did nothing wrong.
It was the opportune time to back his player and would have galvanised the team behind it's CEO.
This argument of the 'sum of all ills' was pathetic and pandering to interests that quite honesty didn't need to be pandered to.
When will the club back a player if not with something like that non issue.

Having said all that Trigg has my full support in the way he has handle this latest incident.
The club had to come out strongly and act swiftly as not only is the subject matter divisive and repulsive it will in this case tarnish brand "Adelaide."

Rendell had to go because clearly this is not a view held by the Adelaide football club now or in it's past history.

 

[courageous_tom]

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Say you were a recruiter in the NBA, would it be racist to say that your club aims at recruiting African American players?

 

[Hank93]

Re: Rendell Says the club will only recruit Aboriginals that have one white parent

I don't think anyone is saying that Rendell should be sacked for the intention of his comments - assuming the intentions of his comments was, as he stated, to shed light on the need for increased counselling services to help kids from remote backgrounds to make the transition to big city living and the glare of the limelight.

If Rendell said something like the above, then yes, the club should have stood up for him.



However, the sound bite we've received does not read like the above. It's very offensive, overtly racist, and cannot be tolerated.

There is only one question here - did Rendell actually say the quote that has been attributed to him. If so, then intention is not relevant. The quote, on it's own, is clearly sufficient to see him sacked. A professional in his position should have known better.

Presumably a thorough investigation was carried out before the AFL decided to take action here, and I have no doubt the Crows would have checked that this was the case before making their decision.



Unless there is another facet to this story that has not yet been revealed, the Crows had absolutely no choice. It is not Misfud, or Demetriou, or Trigg, or Chapman that has "ruined Rendell's career and reputation". It is Rendell's loose comment that has done that, and he has nobody to blame but himself.

Completely agree Stabby.

His direct quote was racist and not acceptable in the AFL or society today.

Even if his intention was not as it appears, you cannot not have that sort of comment linked or associated with the AFC in anyway.

I'd like to know what supporters want the AFC to do if they don't agree with the sacking. Surely this was the only course of action. Matt's comments were shocking and not acceptable at all IMO.

I'd also like to reiterate that I'm talking about the direct quote, not Matt as an individual or his previous actions at the AFC.

 

[Cap]

Re: Rendell Says the club will only recruit Aboriginals that have one white parent

Tell you what though, Rendell is virtually unemployable now.

 

[Elite Crow]

Re: Rendell Says the club will only recruit Aboriginals that have one white parent

Exactly and whilst he ****ed up and what he said was stupid, his life is now in turmoil. Self inflicted but its also sad for him.

 

[Cap]

Re: Rendell Says the club will only recruit Aboriginals that have one white parent

Not a nice place to be. I guys guess you have to live and learn

 

[AFC979810]

Re: Rendell Says the club will only recruit Aboriginals that have one white parent

Tell you what though, Rendell is virtually unemployable now.

Time heals all wounds... He will be back in a couple of years...

 

[Slippery Pete]

Hopefully a club legend such as Graham Johncock, who by the way has two aboriginal parents, isn't truly gutted by this undercurrent of racism that may just be present at AFC!!

Oh please. Get your hand off it.

 

[Macca19]

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Randell has worked at other clubs, maybe a look at Port and St Kilda's recruting since he was at their club could be interesting?

He was our ruck coach so Im not sure he had any fingers in the recruiting pie whilst at Port.


I think the whole his life is in turmoil thing is a bit much. Its not like he'd be living in housing trust on minimum wage. I'll bet we'll see him at another AFL club shortly.

 

[noddy]

Re: Rendell Says the club will only recruit Aboriginals that have one white parent

He was our ruck coach so Im not sure he had any fingers in the recruiting pie whilst at Port.


I think the whole his life is in turmoil thing is a bit much. Its not like he'd be living in housing trust on minimum wage. I'll bet we'll see him at another AFL club shortly.

You know something we don't?

But i agree he will back in footy somewhere in some sort fashion.

 

[Macca19]

Re: Rendell Says the club will only recruit Aboriginals that have one white parent

Not at all, just gut feel.

 

[Freddy Bassett]

Re: Rendell Says the club will only recruit Aboriginals that have one white parent

1. Ellis- Yolmen was recruited last year by Rendell! He does not have a white parent.

2. Vlad said in the Herald Sun, the AFL does not allow discrimination against race, gender, sexual persuasion..... Gender! So if anyone says a woman will never play AFL? Kick them out aswell?

3. I hope Matt sues the pants off the AFL and that gutless wonder Trigg... How about sticking up for your employees and having a proper investigation conducted by a third party, not the AFL, not the Crows?
I could not sack one of my employees that quickly..

4. I can assure every one of you Rendell is NOT A RACIST! He was simply trying to help the situation, his choice of words could of been better. But he should of not been hung out to dry.

5. The AFL said other clubs also spoke of concerns of recruiting Indigenous players. Hang them out to dry aswell...

 

[macca23]

Re: Rendell Says the club will only recruit Aboriginals that have one white parent

As I've said previously in this thread, once Rendell brought the colour of a man's skin into it, his comments were always going to be branded as racist.

Having said that, it surprises me that no-one has raised the topic of Ellis-Yolmen, drafted only months ago by Rendell at the National draft.

Rendell was very proud of that selection when talking to me and the fact that he got such a steal at pick 64.

Ellis-Yolmen hasn't got a white parent to the best of my knowledge, being part Fijian and part aboriginal.

Sadly for Matt, he suffers occasionally from foot in mouth disease, but this time he's choked on it.

 

[macca23]

Re: Rendell Says the club will only recruit Aboriginals that have one white parent

He was our ruck coach so Im not sure he had any fingers in the recruiting pie whilst at Port.


I think the whole his life is in turmoil thing is a bit much. Its not like he'd be living in housing trust on minimum wage. I'll bet we'll see him at another AFL club shortly.

On the money, Macca.

It might take 6 months, but he'll bob up again at another club, although probably not as the front man for recruiting. He's got too much to offer to be left in no-man's land forever.

 

[Freddy Bassett]

Re: Rendell Says the club will only recruit Aboriginals that have one white parent

As I've said previously in this thread, once Rendell brought the colour of a man's skin into it, his comments were always going to be branded as racist.

Having said that, it surprises me that no-one has raised the topic of Ellis-Yolmen, drafted only months ago by Rendell at the National draft.

Rendell was very proud of that selection when talking to me and the fact that he got such a steal at pick 64.

Ellis-Yolmen hasn't got a white parent to the best of my knowledge, being part Fijian and part aboriginal.

Sadly for Matt, he suffers occasionally from foot in mouth disease, but this time he's choked on it.

He also paid way above the odds for Tambling! I am sure Rucci the slag wont mention that. But he is questioning why he picked up Talia infront of Jetta? 4 other clubs after us passed over Jetta and I know who we currently need more, but you go for it Rucci

 

[Lawrst]

Re: Rendell Says the club will only recruit Aboriginals that have one white parent

As I've said previously in this thread, once Rendell brought the colour of a man's skin into it, his comments were always going to be branded as racist.

That is the problem with our society in general in australia. Unfortunatly its only white people that can be rasist in most authorities eyes.

 

[PyroCrow]

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The Ellis-Yolmen thing is a very interesting point. If Rendell is such as racist why would he have recruited someone with his background?

Racism is completely unacceptable, so I'm very glad that he is gone. However, at the same time his fantastic work will have a lasting impact on the club and will ultimately be one of the many reasons that we will be a contender within the next few years. The man was very good at his job, hopefully when people think about him in the future they will remember this as well.

 

[taylor_walker_13]

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Bwhahahahha god I love this, Ive been saying it for years that Trigg is heartless squib with his own agenda ahead of the club, the sooner this waste of space is removed from the AFC the better