Politics The Republic - no way

[Admiral Byng]

Heard on the car radio late this afternoon that QEII is apparently planning to retire when she hits age 95, in about 4 years from now.

If that is true, then now is a good time to revive the republic question.

 

[FredLeDeux]

Heard on the car radio late this afternoon that QEII is apparently planning to retire when she hits age 95, in about 4 years from now.

If that is true, then now is a good time to revive the republic question.

Tricky one, isn't it?
Go for the ton, or protect your average?

 

[Procrastinator35]

Heard on the car radio late this afternoon that QEII is apparently planning to retire when she hits age 95, in about 4 years from now.

If that is true, then now is a good time to revive the republic question.

Hopefully it skips a generation.....No one wants The Poncy Pratt to be King....No way am I singing God save the King to that flapper.

 

[sydney eagle]

This is a fascinating debate. I am ,by nature, a "direct electionist", but I think that the powers of the head of state (whatever he/she is to be called) should be carefully defined before any change is made.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

You think in the 2nd part we would vote for a North Korean model?

We need to work out if the country wants a republic and then we can choose what model.

Which is the way it looks to be progressing

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As long as the 2nd part has a, 'none of the above' option, 'current system to remain'.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

As long as the 2nd part has a, 'none of the above' option, 'current system to remain'.

What, like a "keep the current system, except with the (former) powers of the Crown transferred to the GG's office as the new President of the Australian Republic" kind of thing?

That's the model I want too.

 

[Roylion]

What, like a "keep the current system, except with the (former) powers of the Crown transferred to the GG's office as the new President of the Australian Republic" kind of thing?

So the powers currently vested in the person of the monarch are vested instead in the person of the Governor-General who is then appointed by the PM?

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

What, like a "keep the current system, except with the (former) powers of the Crown transferred to the GG's office as the new President of the Australian Republic" kind of thing?

That's the model I want too.

No. I'm happy with the powers to stay with the crown if a suitable model isn't found.

 

[Fire]

No. I'm happy with the powers to stay with the crown if a suitable model isn't found.

But he just outlined a suitable model.

Its the same model you would otherwise want to stick to.

 

[Fire]

Most of Western Europe have Monarchies still, they are just less influential. So they are effectively like Australia.

Spain, Netherlands, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Belgium all have Monarchies.

They all have their OWN monarchies.

Apples and oranges.

 

[Bradesmaen]

They all have their OWN monarchies.

Apples and oranges.

Fine. Curacao etc..

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

So the powers currently vested in the person of the monarch are vested instead in the person of the Governor-General who is then appointed by the PM?

In my opinion? Nah, I can see problems arising with any politician from the PM on down having a 'captain's pick' for President of a future Australian Republic. I'd suggest a similar system to Ireland. They vote for a President who is above and beyond party politics as seperate to a General Election that selects the Taoiseach (Prime Minister).

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

No. I'm happy with the powers to stay with the crown if a suitable model isn't found.

Are you a Monarchist? Or do you have your own ideas on a suitable model?

 

[Fire]

Fine. Curacao etc..

Im fairly worldy, but even I just had to google that.

The first result was 'A dutch caribean island..."

So unless you think Australia is an English pacific island... even that is an apple to our orange.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Im fairly worldy, but even I just had to google that.

The first result was 'A dutch caribean island..."

So unless you think Australia is an English pacific island... even that is an apple to our orange.

No...

I've heard of it before, the spirit comes from there and I've had a friend do a placement there. It has a Prime Minister and the King of Netherlands is the head of state. They also have a Governor (same as GG) who is his rep.

 

[Fire]

No...

I've heard of it before, the spirit comes from there and I've had a friend do a placement there. It has a Prime Minister and the King of Netherlands is the head of state. They also have a Governor (same as GG) who is his rep.

A quick google search proves you wrong. They have autonomy under dutch sovereignty.

In any event, why the * are you citing a poor caribian island with a smaller population than Geelong as a peer? How low are your asperations for Australia?

 

[Bradesmaen]

A quick google search proves you wrong. They have autonomy under dutch sovereignty.

So, very similar. Not exactly the same but not miles apart

 

[Power Raid]

for a benchmark the current constitution is pretty simple

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act.20161205/coaca430/index.html

there are just a few areas to change to reflect "Australia" rather than Britain
there are a few areas to change references to the Queen to an Australian representative
there are a few racist areas that should be removed

job done

 

[Admiral Byng]

There is always the option of having an Australian monarch. But once again it gets down to how we select them.

 

[Power Raid]

There is always the option of having an Australian monarch. But once again it gets down to how we select them.

a rotation model and have the brownlow medallist as King for the year

 

[Admiral Byng]

a rotation model and have the brownlow medallist as King for the year

Do you really want Dangermouse having a turn?

 

[Power Raid]

Do you really want Dangermouse having a turn?

couldn't be any worse than some of our elected officials.

in all seriousness though, I've been a staunch anti-monarch all my life but the circus called democracy has made some crusty half drunk british women look like the preferred official. I don't have a suggestion of how the "head of state" should be appointed but it should not be by election and should not be involved with politics or public speaking.

Perhaps a high court judge on a rotation basis of 2-4 years?

Perhaps we don't have a head of state rather have a 5 member "federal council" with 20% of the council rotated each year.

 

[Procrastinator35]

There is always the option of having an Australian monarch. But once again it gets down to how we select them.

Well, Molly Meldrum is clearly the obvious choice as our first Queen.....I'd sooner a pot-smoking hippie than a NAZI Jerry, like the Poms have.

 

[Admiral Byng]

couldn't be any worse than some of our elected officials.

in all seriousness though, I've been a staunch anti-monarch all my life but the circus called democracy has made some crusty half drunk british women look like the preferred official. I don't have a suggestion of how the "head of state" should be appointed but it should not be by election and should not be involved with politics or public speaking.

Perhaps a high court judge on a rotation basis of 2-4 years?

Perhaps we don't have a head of state rather have a 5 member "federal council" with 20% of the council rotated each year.

The Brownlow winner, The Daly M winner, the Allan Border winner and the winning Melbourne Cup jockey undertake a serious of cooking and renovation challenges, and then do a general knowledge quiz under the scrutiny of Eddie McGuire.

 

[Roylion]

In my opinion? Nah, I can see problems arising with any politician from the PM on down having a 'captain's pick' for President of a future Australian Republic. I'd suggest a similar system to Ireland. They vote for a President who is above and beyond party politics as seperate to a General Election that selects the Taoiseach (Prime Minister).

So in other words, you want to change the current system. Because what you suggested above is not (in your words) "keep the current system, except with the (former) powers of the Crown transferred to the GG's office as the new President of the Australian Republic"