The Review

[feenix67]

feenix67

Lol they don't like my petitions...

 

[Vader]

Why are we keeping Burton when every single player despises him and knows he’s not up to the task?
His position is basically untenable, why wouldn’t he just leave?

Because he lacks the self-awareness to realise that he's not up to the task, and the integrity to leave even if he did become aware.

 

[jackster83]

Because he lacks the self-awareness to realise that he's not up to the task, and the integrity to leave even if he did become aware.

The bigger problem is that those above him refuse to acknowledge his lack of competence and do something about it. That shows they are either incompetent or corrupt themselves.

 

[thebirdman 24]

Because he lacks the self-awareness to realise that he's not up to the task, and the integrity to leave even if he did become aware.

It would look far better for Brett to leave now prior to review findings then get sacked after they come out. I suspect he has been told he will be kept in any scenario and rebuild his brand etc.

I can't see him leaving.

 

[jackster83]

It would look far better for Brett to leave now prior to review findings then get sacked after they come out. I suspect he has been told he will be kept in any scenario and rebuild his brand etc.

I can't see him leaving.

Guess I will be saving myself some money next year then. Will not be renewing while he is still around.

 

[Scorpus]

Lol they don't like my petitions...

Agitator

 

[1990crow]

Agitator

0.1%er. Ricciuto hates him.

 

[Tex200]

I'm genuinely curious what they will do about the supposed assassinations of Burton and others in the player reviews.

Do they just ignore it? Shuffle him sideways? Get rid of the players?

I think the first answer is that they are not sacking Burton. Everyone should get their heads around that ASAP.

The best possibly outcome we are looking at is a sideways move, with a high profile Football Manager coming in.

It will be sold as a restructure with Burton retaining enough portfolios for it to appear as though he’s lost nothing.

A dilution of his internal power base, dressed up as a restructure. That will be as good as it gets

 

[jackster83]

We really are at the crossroads atm. We either make wholesale changes and rebuild or brush off the review as complete now that Pyke has left, and carry on business as usual.

If we get this wrong, we could become a Carlton/Melbourne level basketcase. I feel for any of our fans aged 50 and over. They will likely never see us win another flag in their lifetime.

 

[Scorpus]

I think the first answer is that they are not sacking Burton. Everyone should get their heads around that ASAP.

The best possibly outcome we are looking at is a sideways move, with a high profile Football Manager coming in.

It will be sold as a restructure with Burton retaining enough portfolios for it to appear as though he’s lost nothing.

A dilution of his internal power base, dressed up as a restructure. That will be as good as it gets

I'm leaning more to the player route. I still think we fundamentally believe the players are at fault for everything and we'll spend the next 2-3 seasons completely wiping out the playing list and turning it over. The most negative will be the first to go

 

[hey shorty]

I think the first answer is that they are not sacking Burton. Everyone should get their heads around that ASAP.

The best possibly outcome we are looking at is a sideways move, with a high profile Football Manager coming in.

It will be sold as a restructure with Burton retaining enough portfolios for it to appear as though he’s lost nothing.

A dilution of his internal power base, dressed up as a restructure. That will be as good as it gets

But what will Phil do ??

Burton's ego won't tolerate a move sideways IMO

 

[ad victoriam]

What if it’s stronger only due to the increased flow of cash from AO? What if it could have been even stronger with a better Chair?

What if it was worse, What if someone other Fagan pushed the SMA for a better deal. What if Thomas did not jump onboard with Fagan when they had that meeting re SMA.
"What if " is the same as "Could have, should have, would have"
Yes, the Adelaide oval move was beneficial, But it needs Fagan pushing along with Thomas towards the end to get a better deal. a couple of years in.
And we would be fools to believe Fagan acted without the full support of the board in those negotiations.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

But what will Phil do ??

Burton's ego won't tolerate a move sideways IMO

Tough ! ........if he gets sacked from th AFC, he can kiss his AFL administation career goodbye .....so he'd be ill advised not to take a step back now, to save a sports admin career

 

[Doc_]

Tough ! ........if he gets sacked from th AFC, he can kiss his AFL administation career goodbye .....so he'd be ill advised not to take a step back now, to save a sports admin career

He will never have a sports admin career. He hasnt got one now.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

He will never have a sports admin career. He hasnt got one now.

Hard to say that ....another 10 yearrs of experience & you don't know .....obviously not a stupid man ....just an arrogant man & that can change with time

 

[Tex200]

But what will Phil do ??

Burton's ego won't tolerate a move sideways IMO

Jobs a job. He has a family I assume.

Alternative is he can elect to move on

 

[jenny61_99]

I think the first answer is that they are not sacking Burton. Everyone should get their heads around that ASAP.

The best possibly outcome we are looking at is a sideways move, with a high profile Football Manager coming in.

It will be sold as a restructure with Burton retaining enough portfolios for it to appear as though he’s lost nothing.

A dilution of his internal power base, dressed up as a restructure. That will be as good as it gets

And I reckon most people would take it. If we can get him out of making ANY decisions whatsoever to do with our footy team... it's a win.

 

[Geoffa32]

Brad Crouch on AA said the players have done their external review interviews. I can't see why the review would take much longer to finish.

I suspect it started mid early to mid August.

Wasn't there talk the AIS guy and other guy were doing some work at the club already "on the payroll". They may have been conducting the first part of the review.

In any case logistically this review would have been 8n the pipeline not long after the bye. Working out how to do it, the people and timeframes for the work as well as.getting them here and their own (other) commitments. No way they organised it around the time they announced it.

Anyone who believes it started the week after the last game is nieve.

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[jackster83]

Jobs a job. He has a family I assume.

Alternative is he can elect to move on

Maybe the AFL will give him a job. They recommended him after all.

 

[Murray2503]

Maybe the AFL will give him a job. They recommended him after all.

I believe if there was a $50 Burton tax on each membership to definitely see the back of him we would have record membership next year. If Burton survives along with Campo this club is doomed imo. Nothing would surprise me with RobTrump in charge.

 

[Elite Crow]

But what will Phil do ??

Burton's ego won't tolerate a move sideways IMO

Leave Phil where he is and Burton can be runner for the SANFL side

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

Good that Pykey will still be part if the review

He can now provide brutal and honest input without the need to manage relationships next year within the footy dept

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[Elite Crow]

Good that Pykey will still be part if the review

He can now provide brutal and honest input without the need to manage relationships next year within the footy dept

On SM-N960F using BigFooty.com mobile app

Where has that been confirmed?

I also hope we’ve gone to Francou and Kaesler

 

[Deaneus!]

Can anyone confirm how the assistant coach thing works?

Chapman could leave tomorow and we can replace him.
Burton could be fired tomorrow, and we could replace him.
If the assistants all had to be told by August 20 whether they had a job next year, presumably we'd have to pay them for next year before getting rid of them?

I wonder if the club will buckle at having to fire Burton, because they won't want a coach and a head of football to go in the same off-season.

As for Chapman saying Pyke's not getting a payout, sure.

I actually wonder, what if Pyke said, "I won't take my payout this year, because you'll need the room in the soft cap to pay out all the dead wood

But you can pay me the year after, indexed, thank you."

 

[Scorpus]

Good that Pykey will still be part if the review

He can now provide brutal and honest input without the need to manage relationships next year within the footy dept

On SM-N960F using BigFooty.com mobile app

We won't even ask him for any input. The job is done