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Does it include all of their intangible benefits.Have you worked out what Roo, Jamo Chapman Ellis get in renumeration?
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Does it include all of their intangible benefits.Have you worked out what Roo, Jamo Chapman Ellis get in renumeration?
U surprised at your confusion.Im totally confused why most posters think Roo Chapman or anyone on the board have any great responsibility in the operation of the club, whether it be employment of staff or general running of the football dept
Just a question after reading the constitution as ad victoriam suggested, what do posters believe Roo Chapman or any board member gets paid and then work out how much time they actually do spend at the club apart from Board meetings and some one offs
This isnt very helpful except there is a fair bit happening today around the club with members of the Board involved most of the day.
U surprised at your confusion.
Go back and read all the Lynch re-signing threads, news articles and TV stories.
Pressure on the club, Contract goes to board, Lynch is a Crow once more
Does it include all of their intangible benefits.
Its certainly says about renumeration and obviously out of pocket expenses
What do you think the entire AFC board costs the AFC in re numeration
In the past 10 years, revenue from 2 premiership windows.
This is not in response to any particular poster, just a random comment
Catherine Brenner was Chair of the AMP board when AMP's dodgy dealings were exposed. I'm sure she was not alone on the board in making decisions (or non-decisions) during that period, she did not bully board members into voting with her all the time, against their better judgement.
She resigned.
OK, I'll bite.Wonder if she used to get paid
OK, I'll bite.
What difference does that make? A board Chair either takes responsibility for what happens on their watch, or they don't. Whether they are paid, or how much they are paid, has nothing to do with that, nothing at all.
If you were to have a frank and open with Rob Chapman, and ask him if he would feel obliged to resign if he had overseen a disastrous period for the AFC - well, he might or might not agree that he should resign, but I'm quite sure that if he said he wouldn't resign, "I don't get paid" would not be on his list of reasons.
That's putting it mildly
I understand how it works
If you are a submissive as a board member and don't listen to yourself you may aswell not even be there, If you have board members that follow the leader that is what you call a disfunctional board, if these board members are that dumb, that is where the problem lays, they are the first problem with the club and its board in having board members that follow everything they are told to do and not think for themselves.
Are you saying these board members should be sacked immediately as they aren't thinking for themselves or wait until their terms end and get rid of the lot and vote as they believe it should be not what they are told to do
I understand how it works
If you are a submissive as a board member and don't listen to yourself you may aswell not even be there, If you have board members that follow the leader that is what you call a disfunctional board, if these board members are that dumb, that is where the problem lays, they are the first problem with the club and its board in having board members that follow everything they are told to do and not think for themselves.
Are you saying these board members should be sacked immediately as they aren't thinking for themselves or wait until their terms end and get rid of the lot and vote as they believe it should be not what they are told to do
Have you worked out what Roo, Jamo Chapman Ellis get in renumeration?
Paid or not, they are not forced to do it.Wonder if she used to get paid
She was urged to resign
Difference is I could bet you $1 million he wont be urged to resign like Catherine was
Do you really think the AFL who appointed Chappy, think the AFC are having a disastrous period
When we look at Port Adelaide Carlton Melbourne GC North Melbourne St Kilda when we look at both onfield and off at those clubs
Maybe the board stuffed up in appointing their CEO, should he go or the board or both?
How does Chapman get all these appointments around him as you suggestedI don't think you understand how a board works in general, but I also think you're assuming that a footy club board operates exactly the same as a corporate board - when they don't.
10 years on the board, seeing off just about every other board member, gives you every opportunity to stack the board with people sympathetic/supportive to the Chairman.
The same as almost every other AFL Board Member?
And the same as those who do it for the SANFL Clubs as well.
It is totally irrelevant - nobody is forcing them to do it; while they don't get monetary remuneration, they get a huge amount of fringe benefits out of it, as well as immense networking opportunities.
Let's stop there the chairman has absolutely no say what So ever in how the rest of the board voteSeriously mate, all you are doing is regurgitating the same irrelevancies over and over, not adding anything new or responding to those who have responded with counter-arguments, just repeating your "point" over and again.
I'll try to break it down / make it simple...
I am not going to argue that Chapman should resign - I think he should, but that's not the point here.
The point is: If it is argued that Chapman should resign, you may choose to mount a counter argument. However that counter argument does not, should not include:
1. He doesn't get paid (irrelevant).
2. The rest of the board votes, too, it's not a dictatorship
- Wrong, because of bucks and where they stop, as proven over and again in the history of boards and resigning chairs
3. The AFL doesn't think the AFC is a disaster
- Irrelevant, because the AFL does not dictate that a chair may not resign if that chair sees fit, and because the AFL's opinion of our state - whatever it may be - is not a sound basis for our club to make its own decisions
4. Other clubs are in poor shape, too
- So what?
As I said before - if you could get Chappy to mount a frank and open defence of his position in which he made the case as to why he should not resign, it is dollars to doughnuts that not one of the above (your) points would feature. Certainly not 1,2, and 4 - maybe, just maybe a little sliver of 3.
Replace Burton?
According to Mark Bickley, he doesnt want anything to do with the footy landscape.Replace Burton?
Replace Burton?
No one is responsible.Let's stop there the chairman has absolutely no say what So ever in how the rest of the board vote
There are 9 members all get one vote
As for influencing if the board are weak that will happen and they dont deserve to be board members
If you believe that then you are a wasting my time
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I'm starting to think you must be related to Chapman as their is no other logical explanation for your repeated pathetic defence of his performance.Let's stop there the chairman has absolutely no say what So ever in how the rest of the board vote
There are 9 members all get one vote
As for influencing if the board are weak that will happen and they dont deserve to be board members
If you believe that then you are a wasting my time
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