The rise of fascism

[TheHeatleyStand]

People think the Trump supporters on this site are Russian bots, but don't bat an eyelid at John H, the human RSS feed, spamming propaganda in the exact same formatting in every post.

A sizeable section of Trump's supporter base are anti-semites? Any evidence for this claim?

Trump is very Pro israel
I din't think anti semites would support that

lol

and secondly the amount of rubbish thrown around by mainstream media is amazing
which is why mainstream isn't believed at all
and that most Americans don't buy into the Russiagate stuff

 

[Mofra]

actually you don't know your history lol

Coming from someone that thinks a far right nationalist was a 'leftist' (Hitler's main rival in 1930s Germany were the Communists, read about the Reichstag fire) I'm not sure you should be commenting.

The modus operandi of all dictators has been to denigrate the free press as they are the primary institution for holding politicians to account, we now have democratically elected leaders (although to what degree elections in Russia are fair and free is a matter for debate) deriding the press while appealing to nationalist ideals.
It's an easy 'out' for avoiding scrutiny. Just avoid the point, whine about journalists, and carry on lying.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Coming from someone that thinks a far right nationalist was a 'leftist' (Hitler's main rival in 1930s Germany were the Communists, read about the Reichstag fire) I'm not sure you should be commenting.

The modus operandi of all dictators has been to denigrate the free press as they are the primary institution for holding politicians to account, we now have democratically elected leaders (although to what degree elections in Russia are fair and free is a matter for debate) deriding the press while appealing to nationalist ideals.
It's an easy 'out' for avoiding scrutiny. Just avoid the point, whine about journalists, and carry on lying.

Maybe that free press should stop lying then.....First about Iraq & WMD, then about Terrorism & the U.S arming, funding & being the principal cause of it, & then about Syria being in a civil war, when we now know it was all Saudi, Qatari, M16, C.I.A & Mossad backed terrorists.

Not to mention this complete mash of bullshit about Russian interference in the U.S election, as a cover for their own corruption.

 

[Chief]

For authoritarian regimes, truth is whatever they say it is, with reality ignored and evidence quickly destroyed. Assad's US fans like Seymour Hersh who've spent years insisting that authoritarianism's essential for "stability" must be so happy to have it at home.

ICE Plans to Start Destroying Records of Immigrant Abuse, Including Sexual Assault and Deaths in Custody

https://www.aclu.org/blog/immigrant.../ice-plans-start-destroying-records-immigrant

Why do they need to destroy records in the digital age? Scan and store in a non-connected storage device if security is an issue.

 

[Mofra]

Maybe that free press should stop lying then.....First about Iraq & WMD, then about Terrorism & the U.S arming, funding & being the principal cause of it, & then about Syria being in a civil war, when we now know it was all Saudi, Qatari, M16, C.I.A & Mossad backed terrorists.

Not to mention this complete mash of bullshit about Russian interference in the U.S election, as a cover for their own corruption.

The press that was largely questioning the US claim of WMDs in Iraq, with only a few conservative outlets going along for the WMD ride?

Stop pretending that every single one of the thousands of outlets is one amorphous mass.

 

[FireKrakouer]

The press that was largely questioning the US claim of WMDs in Iraq, with only a few conservative outlets going along for the WMD ride?

Stop pretending that every single one of the thousands of outlets is one amorphous mass.

CNN is conservative? They are establishment, not conservative.

 

[Mofra]

CNN is conservative? They are establishment, not conservative.

Of course they're not conservative, they ran articles criticizing the Bush administration for the WMD claim which is exactly what I was alluding to.

Kudos on the new name BTW, like the old one with a little touch of class

 

[Procrastinator35]

The press that was largely questioning the US claim of WMDs in Iraq, with only a few conservative outlets going along for the WMD ride?

Stop pretending that every single one of the thousands of outlets is one amorphous mass.

There are only 5 multi nat corporate owners who now run the entire show in the U.S

Any person who questioned the WMD narrative was fired....Hello Phil Donohue.

Just recently Ed Schultz was fired for having the temerity to question the non-coverage of Bernie Sanders in the last election on the part of MSNBC.

Chris Hedges was fired from the N.Y times, where he had been a correspondent for over 20 years, for questioning the WMD farce.

Why you continue to defend this sham is truly befuddling.....One can only surmise a parochial investment on your behalf.

 

[Mofra]

There are only 5 multi nat corporate owners who now run the entire show in the U.S

Any person who questioned the WMD narrative was fired....Hello Phil Donohue.

Just recently Ed Schultz was fired for having the temerity to question the non-coverage of Bernie Sanders in the last election on the part of MSNBC.

Chris Hedges was fired from the N.Y times, where he had been a correspondent for over 20 years, for questioning the WMD farce.

Why you continue to defend this sham is truly befuddling.....One can only surmise a parochial investment on your behalf.

As someone who trusts everything the RT releases without question I'm not sure how you can be asking that as if reading anything not put out on you-tube is someone believing every written word.

 

[Procrastinator35]

As someone who trusts everything the RT releases without question I'm not sure how you can asking that as if reading anything not put out on you-tube is someone believing every written word.

Oh dear.....I'm not sure that's even a cogent response.

Swinging pendulum from one extreme to the other dialectical one.

 

[Chief]

People think the Trump supporters on this site are Russian bots, but don't bat an eyelid at John H, the human RSS feed, spamming propaganda in the exact same formatting in every post.

A sizeable section of Trump's supporter base are anti-semites? Any evidence for this claim?

The fact that they respond positively to the racism and bigotry spouted by their Dear Leader?

 

[Chief]

Chris Hedges was fired from the N.Y times, where he had been a correspondent for over 20 years, for questioning the WMD farce.

Could you correct Wikipedia please?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hedges

 

[medusala]

Coming from someone that thinks a far right nationalist was a 'leftist' (Hitler's main rival in 1930s Germany were the Communists, read about the Reichstag fire) I'm not sure you should be commenting.

They were socialists. No rational person would say otherwise. Its the hopeles bastardisation of a term, just as "liberal" now is used to described very illiberal policies. May as well argue Trotsky wasnt a communist because Stalin had him killed.


"Lenin is the greatest man, second only to Hitler, and that the difference between Communism and the Hitler faith is very slight."

"…we can see the commencement of our own national and socialist survival in an alliance with a truly national and socialist Russia."

"One class has fulfilled its historical mission and is about to yield to another. The bourgeoisie has to yield to the working class ... Whatever is about to fall should be pushed. We are all soldiers of the revolution. We want the workers' victory over filthy lucre. That is socialism."

 

[Total Power]

Chris Hedges was fired from the N.Y times, where he had been a correspondent for over 20 years, for questioning the WMD farce.

When you post lies, it's for everyone to see, cause a CT site told you so. You bag everyone for posting MSM stuff while posting all sorts of misinformation and conspiracy crap here. He suspected (in his own opinion) he was going to get fired and he 'quit' himself. The times people denied he was going to get fired but told him to lay off the conspiracies without proof. In other words you and Chris Hedges are a match made in heaven

 

[pugsville]

They were socialists. No rational person would say otherwise. Its the hopeles bastardisation of a term, just as "liberal" now is used to described very illiberal policies. May as well argue Trotsky wasnt a communist because Stalin had him killed.


"Lenin is the greatest man, second only to Hitler, and that the difference between Communism and the Hitler faith is very slight."

"…we can see the commencement of our own national and socialist survival in an alliance with a truly national and socialist Russia."

"One class has fulfilled its historical mission and is about to yield to another. The bourgeoisie has to yield to the working class ... Whatever is about to fall should be pushed. We are all soldiers of the revolution. We want the workers' victory over filthy lucre. That is socialism."

The Nazis were a right wing movement funding by big business allied with the Army , conservatives. they considered themselves right wing, their political friends and enemies considered them right wing..

 

[Chief]

The Nazis were a right wing movement funding by big business allied with the Army , conservatives. they considered themselves right wing, their political friends and enemies considered them right wing..

Tut tut.

They had the word 'socialist' in their name! They were a worker's party (who banned unions).

 

[medusala]

They had the word 'socialist' in their name! They were a worker's party (who banned unions).

lol. How did unions get on in the USSR and under Mao?

 

[medusala]

The Nazis were a right wing movement funding by big business allied with the Army , conservatives. they considered themselves right wing, their political friends and enemies considered them right wing..

Nope. The prussian military and aristocracy by and large hated them. After all the cabinet bar one were Catholics. As for friends, well Rohm was a thug who sided with unions and was all for violence against right wing parties and their supporters.

 

[pugsville]

Nope. The prussian military and aristocracy by and large hated them. After all the cabinet bar one were Catholics. As for friends, well Rohm was a thug who sided with unions and was all for violence against right wing parties and their supporters.

The Military and Hitler came to an agreement. they met, negotiated. They were political allies. Teh Cabinet was cobservative ring wingers who had brought Hitler to power backed by the army and industrialist money.

Rohm was a thug? Ho wis different from anyone else ion the Nazi party, thuggery and corruption were core principles.

When did Rohm ever side with thg unions? Which were destroyed by Hitler.

 

[Elroo]

Nope. The prussian military and aristocracy by and large hated them. After all the cabinet bar one were Catholics. As for friends, well Rohm was a thug who sided with unions and was all for violence against right wing parties and their supporters.

That's one of the many reasons Rohm was assassinated.

 

[Elroo]

Tut tut.

They had the word 'socialist' in their name! They were a worker's party (who banned unions).

Old East Germany aka the German Democratic Republic was actually a democracy? Ditto North Korea, aka the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is also a democracy??

 

[Elroo]

The Nazis were a right wing movement funding by big business allied with the Army , conservatives. they considered themselves right wing, their political friends and enemies considered them right wing..

Yep, the Nazis were a right wing movement, the Brown Shirts street battles with left wing political movements including free unions is well documented.

It's also the reason why the German National Peoples Party, a conservative, nationalist, anti-semetic party in Weimar Germany not only supported the Nazi's but had ministers in the Nazi Government.

 

[pugsville]

NAfter all the cabinet bar one were Catholics. A

Wrong. Two of the first three I checked were protestants. so I stopped there. Where do you get your information from?

"the last of four children of Protestant teacher Wilhelm Frick sen."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Frick

"born as Johann Ludwig von Krosigk into a family of traditional Lutheran Protestants in Rathmannsdorf, Anhalt, Germany,"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lutz_Graf_Schwerin_von_Krosigk

though I'm not sure of the relevance oif the Catholics or not in cabinet.

 

[Chief]

Nothing to worry about, but how much do you want to bet this guy is an SRP regular?

 

[TheHeatleyStand]

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Nothing to worry about, but how much do you want to bet this guy is an SRP regular?

what's that?

lol

I think we should all agree left and right is the same totalitarian thing