Fixture The Rolling Fixture in place for 2022 and we have never had worse games on channel 7

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Richmond West Coast friday night was scheduled back in December. In fact the first 9 rounds were so the floating fixture is only relevant from Rounds 10 on.
No excuse. Two sides who missed finals last year. You didn’t need to be a rocket scientist to predict how s**t the eagles were going to be given the way they ended last season.
 
I posted this on the Crows board yesterday
So here's what I'd have gone with, vs what the AFL did

Rd 10 changes (Fixture released after Rd 4)
Carlton vs Sydney moved from Friday Night to Sunday Afternoon (7)
Geelong vs Port Adelaide moved from Saturday Afternoon (Game 1) to Friday Night
North Melbourne vs Melbourne moved from Saturday Twilight to Saturday Afternoon (Game 1)
Adelaide vs St Kilda vs from Saturday Night (Foxtel) to Sunday Twilight
Greater Western Sydney vs West Coast moved from Sunday Afternoon (Foxtel) to Saturday Twilight
Hawthorn vs Brisbane moved from Sunday Afternoon (7) to Sunday Afternoon (Foxtel)
Fremantle vs Collingwood moved from Sunday Twilight to Saturday Night (Foxtel)

Friday Night
Carlton vs Sydney ---> Geelong vs Port Adelaide

Saturday Afternoon (Match 1)
Geelong vs Port Adelaide ---> North Melbourne vs Melbourne

Saturday Afternoon (Match 2)
Western Bulldogs vs Gold Coast (No change)

Saturday Twilight
North Melbourne vs Melbourne ---> Greater Western Sydney vs West Coast

Saturday Night (Foxtel)
Adelaide vs St Kilda ---> Fremantle vs Collingwood

Saturday Night (7)
Richmond vs Essendon (No change)

Sunday Afternoon (Foxtel)
Greater Western Sydney vs West Coast ---> Hawthorn vs Brisbane

Sunday Afternoon (7)
Hawthorn vs Brisbane ---> Carlton vs Sydney

Sunday Twilight
Fremantle vs Collingwood ---> Adelaide vs St Kilda

Rd 11 changes (Fixture released after Rd 4)
Sydney vs Richmond moved from Friday Night to Saturday Afternoon (Match 1)
Brisbane vs Greater Western Sydney moved from Saturday Afternoon (Match 1) to Saturday Twilight
Geelong vs Adelaide moved from Saturday Afternoon (Match 2) to Saturday Night (7)
Melbourne vs Fremantle moved from Saturday Twilight to Friday Night
West Coast vs Western Bulldogs moved from Saturday Night (Foxtel) to Sunday Twilight
Gold Coast vs Hawthorn moved from Saturday Night (7) to Saturday Night (Foxtel)
St Kilda vs North Melbourne Sunday Afternoon (Foxtel) moved to Saturday Afternoon (Match 2)
Port Adelaide vs Essendon moved from Sunday Twilight to Sunday Afternoon (Foxtel)

Friday Night
Sydney vs Richmond ---> Melbourne vs Fremantle

Saturday Afternoon (Match 1)
Brisbane vs Greater Western Sydney ---> Sydney vs Richmond

Saturday Afternoon (Match 2)
Geelong vs Adelaide ---> St Kilda vs North Melbourne

Saturday Twilight
Melbourne vs Fremantle ---> Brisbane vs Greater Western Sydney

Saturday Night (Foxtel)
West Coast vs Western Bulldogs ---> Gold Coast vs Hawthorn

Saturday Night (7)
Gold Coast vs Hawthorn ---> Geelong vs Adelaide

Sunday Afternoon (Foxtel)
St Kilda vs North Melbourne ---> Port Adelaide vs Essendon

Sunday Afternoon (7)
Collingwood vs Carlton (No change)

Sunday Twilight
Port Adelaide vs Essendon ---> West Coast vs Western Bulldogs

Rd 12 changes (Fixture released after Rd 6)
Western Bulldogs vs Geelong moved from Friday Night to Sunday Afternnon
Adelaide vs West Coast moved from Saturday Afternoon to Sunday Twilight
Melbourne vs Sydney moved from Saturday Night to Friday Night
Hawthorn vs Collingwood moved from Sunday Afternoon to Saturday Afternoon
Fremantle vs Brisbane moved from Sunday Twilight to Saturday Night
Friday Night
Western Bulldogs vs Geelong ---> Melbourne vs Sydney

Saturday Afternoon
Adelaide vs West Coast ---> Hawthorn vs Collingwood

Saturday Twilight
Gold Coast vs North Melbourne (No change)

Saturday Night
Melbourne vs Sydney ---> Fremantle vs Brisbane

Sunday Afternoon
Hawthorn vs Collingwood ---> Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

Sunday Twilight
Fremantle vs Brisbane ---> Adelaide vs West Coast

Rd 13 changes (Fixture released after Rd 6)
Essendon vs Carlton moved from Friday Night to Saturday Afternoon
Fremantle vs Hawthorn moved from Saturday Afternoon to Saturday Night
Brisbane vs St Kilda moved from Saturday Night to Friday Night

Thursday Night
Richmond vs Port Adelaide (No change)

Friday Night
Essendon vs Carlton ---> Brisbane vs St Kilda

Saturday Afternoon
Fremantle vs Hawthorn ---> Essendon vs Carlton

Saturday Night
Brisbane vs St Kilda ---> Fremantle vs Hawthorn

Sunday Afternoon
North Melbourne vs Greater Western Sydney (No change)

Monday Afternoon
Collingwood vs Melbourne (No change)

Rd 14 changes (Fixture released after Rd 6)
Richmond vs Carlton moved from Thursday Night to Friday Night
St Kilda vs Essendon moved from Friday Night to Sunday Afternoon
West Coast vs Geelong moved from Saturday Twilight to Thursday Night
Gold Coast vs Adelaide moved from Sunday Afternoon to Saturday Twilight

Thursday Night
Richmond vs Carlton ---> West Coast vs Geelong

Friday Night
St Kilda vs Essendon ---> Richmond vs Carlton

Saturday Afternoon
Port Adelaide vs Sydney (No change)

Saturday Twilight
West Coast vs Geelong ---> Gold Coast vs Adelaide

Saturday Night
GWS vs Western Bulldogs (No change)

Sunday Afternoon
Gold Coast vs Adelaide ---> St Kilda vs Essendon

Rd 15 changes (Fixture released after Rd 6)
Melbourne vs Brisbane moved from Thursday Night to Friday Night (7)
Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn moved from Friday Night (7) Saturday Afternoon
Carlton vs Fremantle moved from Saturday AFternoon to Thursday Night

Thursday Night
Melbourne vs Brisbane ---> Carlton vs Fremantle

Friday Night (7)
Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn ---> Melbourne vs Brisbane

Friday Night (Foxtel)
West Coast vs Essendon (No change)

Saturday Afternoon
Carlton vs Fremantle ---> Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

Saturday Twilight
Geelong vs Richmond (No change)

Saturday Night
Sydney vs St Kilda (No change)

Sunday Afternoon (Foxtel)
North Melbourne vs Adelaide (No change)

Sunday Afternoon (7)
Collingwood vs Greater Western Sydney (No change)

Sunday Twilight
Port Adelaide vs Gold Coast (No change)

Rd 16 changes (Fixture released after Rd 9)
Adelaide vs Melbourne moved from Saturday Twilight to Saturday Night (Foxtel)
Geelong vs North Melbourne moved from Saturday Night (Foxtel) to Saturday Twilight

Thursday Night
Brisbane vs Western Bulldogs (No change)

Friday Night
Carlton vs St Kilda (No change)

Saturday Afternoon
Essendon vs Sydney (No change)

Saturday Twilight
Adelaide vs Melbourne ---> Geelong vs North Melbourne

Saturday Night (Foxtel)
Geelong vs North Melbourne ---> Adelaide vs Melbourne

Saturday Night (7)
Gold Coast vs Collingwood (No change)

Sunday Afternoon (Foxtel)
Richmond vs West Coast (No change)

Sunday Afternoon (7)
GWS vs Hawthorn (No change)

Sunday Twilight
Fremantle vs Port Adelaide (No change)

Rd 17 changes (Fixture released after Rd 9)
Geelong vs Melbourne moved from Thursday Night to Friday Night
Sydney vs Western Bulldogs moved from Friday Night to Thursday Night
Gold Coast vs Richmond moved from Saturday Twilight to Saturday Night (Foxtel)
Port Adelaide vs Greater Western Sydney moved from Saturday Night (Foxtel) to Saturday Twilight

Thursday Night
Geelong vs Melbourne ---> Sydney vs Western Bulldogs

Friday Night
Sydney vs Western Bulldogs ---> Geelong vs Melbourne

Saturday Afternoon
Collingwood vs Melbourne Melbourne (No change)

Saturday Twilight
Gold Coast vs Richmond ---> Port Adelaide vs Greater Western Sydney

Saturday Night (Foxtel)
Port Adelaide vs Greater Western Sydney ---> Gold Coast vs Richmond

Saturday Night (7)
St Kilda vs Fremantle (No change)

Sunday Afternoon (Foxtel)
Brisbane vs Essendon (No change)

Sunday Afternoon (7)
Hawthorn vs Adelaide (No change)

Sunday Twilight
West Coast vs Carlton (No change)

Rd 18 changes (Fixture released after Rd 9)
Adelaide vs Collingwood moved from Saturday Afternoon (Match 1) to Saturday Night (Foxtel)
Greater Western Sydney vs Brisbane moved from Saturday Afternoon (Match 2) to Saturday Twilight)
North Melbourne vs Richmond moved from Saturday Twilight to Sunday Afternoon (7)
Fremantle vs Sydney moved from Saturday Night (Foxtel) to Sunday Twilight
Melbourne vs Port Adelaide moved from Sunday Afternoon (7) to Saturday AFternoon (Match 1)
Essendon vs Gold Coast moved from Sunday Twilight to Saturday Afternoon (Match 2)

Friday Night
Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda (No change)

Saturday Afternoon (Match 1)
Adelaide vs Collingwood ---> Melbourne vs Port Adelaide

Saturday Afternoon (Match 2)
Greater Western Sydney vs Brisbane ---> Essendon vs Gold Coast

Saturday Twilight
North Melbourne vs Richmond ---> Greater Western Sydney vs Brisbane

Saturday Night (7)
Carlton vs Geelong (No change)

Saturday Night (Foxtel)
Fremantle vs Sydney ---> Adelaide vs Collingwood

Sunday Afternoon (Foxtel)
Hawthorn vs West Coast (No change)

Sunday AFternoon (7)
Melbourne vs Port Adelaide ---> North Melbourne vs Richmond

Sunday Twilight
Essendon vs Gold Coast ---> Fremantle vs Sydney

Rd 19 changes (Fixture released after Rd 9)
Richmond vs Fremantle moved from Friday Night to Saturday Night (7)
Western Bulldogs vs Melbourne moved from Saturday Night (7) to Friday Night

Friday Night
Richmond vs Fremantle ---> Western Bulldogs vs Melbourne

Saturday Afternoon (Match 1)
North Melbourne vs Hawthorn (No change)

Saturday AFternoon (Match 2)
Sydney vs Adelaide (No change)

Saturday Twilight
Port Adelaide vs Geelong (No change)

Saturday Night (7)
Western Bulldogs vs Melbourne ---> Richmond vs Fremantle

Saturday Night (Foxtel)
Brisbane vs Gold Coast (No change)

Sunday Afternoon (Foxtel)
Carlton vs Greater Western Sydney (No change)

Sunday AFternoon (7)
Collingwood vs Essendon (No change)

Sunday Twilight
West Coast vs St Kilda (No change)
 
The first, second and Third criteria when selecting prime times games for this floating fixture is simply this:
- will the game still be likely to be in the balance at the start of the last quarter?

If the answer to that question is “unlikely” then the AFL and seven should put a line though it no matter how big the clubs involved are.

Blowouts on prime time tv are so much more damaging to the AFL brand than any lack of exposure for its preferred sides.

Why don’t they seem to understand this? Casual sports fans want to watch competitive games. Last night was great. I was on the edge of my seat for the entire last quarter. Maybe the second time this season it’s happened.

At least, in the latest release from R16-19, there is some semblance of sanity to the fixtures chosen with all of the top sides this year getting some exposure against each other.
See - It’s not that hard to do AFL is it?
 

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The rolling fixture was heralded as a chance to ensure the best fixtures were on Free to air tv every week.
There are basically 2 or 3 big TV games each week. Thursday night, Friday night and Saturday night.
Instead of picking the best performing sides the AFL have placed big Victorian sides in the key slots repeatedly despite they stinking the place out every week. Essendon, Collingwood, Hawthorn etc.

Essendon should not be inflicted on anyone other than KAYO viewers until 2023. So sick of watching these useless wasters in big game slots every duckin weekend.

Instead we have to watch them next weekend against Richmond, and on a FRIDAY night for their next game against Carlton.

In 2 weeks time there is probably one of the most anticipated game of the season, Melbourne v Freo, 1 v 2, and it’s on KAYO at 4:30 on a Saturday with the mighty Gold Coast v Hawthorn getting the plum Saturday night slot on seven that week.
This was scheduled just 2 weeks ago.
Inexcusable from Travis Auld and his fixtures committee.

The following clubs should not get near a FTA game for the rest of the season:
West coast
Collingwood
Essendon
Hawthorn
North melbourne


Why are we not seeing Brisbane, Melbourne, Fremantle, St kilda, Sydney, Carlton, in games against EACH OTHER?
These are the leagues best teams and yet we have to watch this shite served up by Essendon every duckin week?
It’s the worst set of fixtures on primetime so far this year to open a season that we have EVER seen.
Travis Auld couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery.
Lol we haven’t had a Thursday or Friday night game. We’ve had one Saturday night and about 6 Sunday afternoon games. Don’t think we should be included in this
 
Viewers in SA and WA get to see their teams on FTA every single week. Can’t see why they’d be in a position to whinge.

Sure, there’s been a few too many prime time Essendon games lately. It’s been fun to watch them play so poorly but maybe time to relegate them to some other time slots. Nothing to get knickers in a knot about though.

Collingwood has a pretty s**t draw and we deserve it. No complaints. That’s what Kayo is for.
 
Viewers in SA and WA get to see their teams on FTA every single week. Can’t see why they’d be in a position to whinge.

Sure, there’s been a few too many prime time Essendon games lately. It’s been fun to watch them play so poorly but maybe time to relegate them to some other time slots. Nothing to get knickers in a knot about though.

Collingwood has a pretty s**t draw and we deserve it. No complaints. That’s what Kayo is for.
But supporters of those clubs that don’t live in that state see nothing.
Being a docker in melb if I didn’t pay for fox footy I’d see 1 game a year on tv if I was lucky.
Yet if I went for an over exposed vic club like Essendon and lived in the west I could see them 7-10 times a year for free.
 
But supporters of those clubs that don’t live in that state see nothing.
Being a docker in melb if I didn’t pay for fox footy I’d see 1 game a year on tv if I was lucky.
Yet if I went for an over exposed vic club like Essendon and lived in the west I could see them 7-10 times a year for free.

Itv you live in a different city to your football club the next suck it up and don’t whinge. I’ve been doing the same myself for years. .
 
Viewers in SA and WA get to see their teams on FTA every single week. Can’t see why they’d be in a position to whinge.

Sure, there’s been a few too many prime time Essendon games lately. It’s been fun to watch them play so poorly but maybe time to relegate them to some other time slots. Nothing to get knickers in a knot about though.

Collingwood has a pretty s**t draw and we deserve it. No complaints. That’s what Kayo is for.
The irony of this coming from a pies fan.
The most over exposed side in the entire league the last decade despite not even having a flag to show for it.

Every team in the afl should have at least one nationally televised FTA game on the main broadcaster per season on a Friday night and one per season on a Saturday night. It should be written into the broadcasting contract as a requirement by the AFL.
That’s 2 games a season for everyone.
Fair and reasonable and still leaves plenty of scope over 23 rounds to prioritise bigger games.
It would change very little anyway as it pretty much happens for every team in the league already apart from Gold Coast and freo the last few years.
Even north get the Good Friday game on Seven every year.
It would avoid those horrible (indefensible by any fair minded fan) situations where a club like Fremantle go six years without a Friday night FTA game.
It’s a national comp, treat it like one.
 
Itv you live in a different city to your football club the next suck it up and don’t whinge. I’ve been doing the same myself for years. .
It’s not about me I’m fortunate.
It effects the clubs capacity for growth.
There is a reason companies sink billions on exposure through advertising because it works.
The AFL like with gambling money cling to these old vfl clubs playing the short game, think without them and the money they bring the league won’t survive.
I believe quite contrary.
they should be playing the long game and 18 healthy clubs(through promotion and exposure) will bring in 10folds the revenue when the hard works done.
 
Every team in the afl should have at least one nationally televised FTA game on the main broadcaster per season on a Friday night and one per season on a Saturday night. It should be written into the broadcasting contract as a requirement by the AFL.
That’s 2 games a season for everyone.
Even north get the Good Friday game on Seven every year.

What time does the Good Friday game @ Marvel start?

I don't think you can classify it as a "Friday night" game.
 

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It’s not about me I’m fortunate.
It effects the clubs capacity for growth.
There is a reason companies sink billions on exposure through advertising because it works.
The AFL like with gambling money cling to these old vfl clubs playing the short game, think without them and the money they bring the league won’t survive.
I believe quite contrary.
they should be playing the long game and 18 healthy clubs(through promotion and exposure) will bring in 10folds the revenue when the hard works done.

The WA clubs and SA clubs get more FTA exposure in their home states than any of the Vic clubs get.
 
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The WA clubs and SA clubs get more FTA exposure in their home states than any of the Vic clubs get.
Current tv deal

winners
fans
tv network
league
Victorian clubs

losers
Non-Victorian clubs

Yes, you would be right that non-victorian clubs have more access to free-to-air tv IN THEIR OWN STATE
However, by doing so, it leads to 7 putting Victorian clubs onto free-to-air football more often as they know they'll still get the non-victorian teams onto 7 in their own state maximising ratings.

However, sponsors know this. If I sponsor Port Adelaide I get 300k on foxtel and 150k on 7 in SA. However, if I sponsor Melbourne, I get on 650k around the country in primetime football. I have a 40% bigger reach by investing my money with Melbourne.

So even though the FANS get better with the current deal. The clubs are worse off via sponsorship.
 
Current tv deal

winners
fans
tv network
league
Victorian clubs

losers
Non-Victorian clubs

Yes, you would be right that non-victorian clubs have more access to free-to-air tv IN THEIR OWN STATE
However, by doing so, it leads to 7 putting Victorian clubs onto free-to-air football more often as they know they'll still get the non-victorian teams onto 7 in their own state maximising ratings.

However, sponsors know this. If I sponsor Port Adelaide I get 300k on foxtel and 150k on 7 in SA. However, if I sponsor Melbourne, I get on 650k around the country in primetime football. I have a 40% bigger reach by investing my money with Melbourne.

So even though the FANS get better with the current deal. The clubs are worse off via sponsorship.
Stop talking sense, VFL fans don’t want to hear this
 
Lol we haven’t had a Thursday or Friday night game. We’ve had one Saturday night and about 6 Sunday afternoon games. Don’t think we should be included in this
Likewise us. A whole lot of handwringing over Collingwood for no real reason.
 
Likewise us. A whole lot of handwringing over Collingwood for no real reason.

I mean, not arguing either way but this is factually wrong - 1x Thursday and 2x Friday for Collingwood (plus ANZAC Day which is preferable over those slots).

Edit: as in when a Hawks fan says they haven't had a prime time slot, Pies fans can't say "likewise us"
 
Current tv deal

winners
fans
tv network
league
Victorian clubs

losers
Non-Victorian clubs

Yes, you would be right that non-victorian clubs have more access to free-to-air tv IN THEIR OWN STATE
However, by doing so, it leads to 7 putting Victorian clubs onto free-to-air football more often as they know they'll still get the non-victorian teams onto 7 in their own state maximising ratings.

However, sponsors know this. If I sponsor Port Adelaide I get 300k on foxtel and 150k on 7 in SA. However, if I sponsor Melbourne, I get on 650k around the country in primetime football. I have a 40% bigger reach by investing my money with Melbourne.

So even though the FANS get better with the current deal. The clubs are worse off via sponsorship.

That’s just how it works. Some teams are bigger than others. Port arent often on Victorian FTA because nobody wants to watch them.

I could use one of the lesser Victorian teams like North in that example instead of Port and youd get the same result. Or I could use the Eagles and….. hang on…. They are one of the wealthiest clubs in the competition……
 
I mean, not arguing either way but this is factually wrong - 1x Thursday and 2x Friday for Collingwood (plus ANZAC Day which is preferable over those slots).

Edit: as in when a Hawks fan says they haven't had a prime time slot, Pies fans can't say "likewise us"
I’m talking the entire season - but sure you’re objecting to our clashes against St Kilda, Brisbane and the Western Bulldogs being prime time? Is the premise of the OP not that those sides deserve to be playing in prime time?
 
Likewise us. A whole lot of handwringing over Collingwood for no real reason.
You gotta be taking the piss right?

2022 Collingwood fixtures:
Round 1 - Friday primetime v St kilda (seven)
Round 3 - Saturday primetime v Geelong (seven)
Round 5 - Thursday primetime v Lions (seven)
Round 6 - Anzac Day primetime v Essendon (seven)
Round 9 - Friday primetime v bulldogs (seven)

In the first 9 rounds of 2022 alone, you have been shown in primetime slots on channel 7 more times than Fremantles entire 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2022 first 15 games put together. No joke.

Just let that one sink in for a minute.
 
You gotta be taking the piss right?

2022 Collingwood fixtures:
Round 1 - Friday primetime v St kilda (seven)
Round 3 - Saturday primetime v Geelong (seven)
Round 5 - Thursday primetime v Lions (seven)
Round 6 - Anzac Day primetime v Essendon (seven)
Round 9 - Friday primetime v bulldogs (seven)

In the first 9 rounds of 2022 alone, you have been shown in primetime slots on channel 7 more times than Fremantles entire 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2022 first 15 games put together. No joke.

Just let that one sink in for a minute.
ANZAC Day as an event that has been built up over the past thirty years by the two clubs involved is obviously an exception.

Outside of that, you’re bemoaning us having prime time clashes against other top eight sides?

Also, Freo are broadcast into Perth FTA every week, no matter how pedestrian the bullshit football they served up in those non-finals contending years has been. Of course they’re not getting broadcast into a national market that has no vested interest in them given their historically poor performances and low levels of support outside of Western Australia?
 
You gotta be taking the piss right?

2022 Collingwood fixtures:
Round 1 - Friday primetime v St kilda (seven)
Round 3 - Saturday primetime v Geelong (seven)
Round 5 - Thursday primetime v Lions (seven)
Round 6 - Anzac Day primetime v Essendon (seven)
Round 9 - Friday primetime v bulldogs (seven)

In the first 9 rounds of 2022 alone, you have been shown in primetime slots on channel 7 more times than Fremantles entire 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2022 first 15 games put together. No joke.

Just let that one sink in for a minute.
But part of that is due to getting all your games on FTA in Perth.
 
You gotta be taking the piss right?

2022 Collingwood fixtures:
Round 1 - Friday primetime v St kilda (seven)
Round 3 - Saturday primetime v Geelong (seven)
Round 5 - Thursday primetime v Lions (seven)
Round 6 - Anzac Day primetime v Essendon (seven)
Round 9 - Friday primetime v bulldogs (seven)

In the first 9 rounds of 2022 alone, you have been shown in primetime slots on channel 7 more times than Fremantles entire 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2022 first 15 games put together. No joke.

Just let that one sink in for a minute.

In the next seven Rounds Collingwood plays just one Saturday night blockbuster against the Suns who no doubt are rapt to be getting prime time exposure for a change. You do realise when interstate teams play in prime time slots they usually have an opponent? No Friday games. Plus a traditional Melbourne game on QB … the other five are twilight zone time slots. AFL seem to be working their scheduling as advertised.
 

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