The Russians helped Trump. Case closed.

[Chief]

The Senate committee’s report isn’t telling this story for the first time, of course. (Was it only a year ago that Robert Mueller testified before Congress about his own damning, comprehensive investigation?) But it is the first to do so with the assent of Senate Republicans, who have mostly ignored the gravity of the Trump camp’s actions or actively worked to cast doubt about the demonstrable facts in the case.

...

By focusing on the Russian actions as a national security threat, the Senate investigation differed from the Mueller inquiry, which examined whether there was evidence to charge anyone with specific crimes.

...

Mr. Mueller declined to say whether Mr. Trump had lied under oath when he said that he did not recall speaking with Roger Stone, his longtime aide and confidant, about WikiLeaks, which released the batches of emails stolen by the Russians. But the Senate committee found that the president “did, in fact, speak with Stone about WikiLeaks and with members of his campaign about Stone’s access to WikiLeaks on multiple occasions.”

Opinion | The Trump Campaign Accepted Russian Help to Win in 2016. Case Closed. (Published 2020)

“Cooperation” or “collusion” or whatever. It was a plot against American democracy.

www.nytimes.com

WASHINGTON — A sprawling report released Tuesday by a Republican-controlled Senate panel that spent three years investigating Russia’s interference in the 2016 election laid out an extensive web of contacts between Trump campaign advisers and Kremlin officials and other Russians, including at least one intelligence officer and others tied to the country’s spy services.

The report by the Senate Intelligence Committee, totaling nearly 1,000 pages, drew to a close one of the highest-profile congressional investigations in recent memory and could be the last word from an official government inquiry about the expansive Russian campaign to sabotage the 2016 election.

It provided a bipartisan Senate imprimatur for an extraordinary set of facts:

• The Russian government disrupted an American election to help Mr. Trump become president,
• Russian intelligence services viewed members of the Trump campaign as easily manipulated,
• and some of Mr. Trump’s advisers were eager for the help from an American adversary.

G.O.P.-Led Senate Panel Details Ties Between 2016 Trump Campaign and Russia (Published 2020)

A nearly 1,000-page report confirmed the special counsel’s findings at a moment when President Trump’s allies have sought to undermine that inquiry.

www.nytimes.com

Mueller Report Shows Depth of Connections Between Trump Campaign and Russians (Published 2019)

Donald J. Trump and 18 of his associates had at least 140 contacts with Russian nationals and WikiLeaks, or their intermediaries, during the 2016 campaign and presidential transition.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Chief]

When you bring in a bunch of pals and hangers on with no government experience, mix in people who are at best fringe players in foreign policy, you're gonna end up in trouble, you bet.

 

[Chief]

Can't even decide whether the report is good or bad:

President Trump called the report “a hoax,” but a White House spokesman said it helped confirm what the president and his allies had long said — “that there was absolutely no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

 

[Maggie5]

If the Senate Intel Committee concluded Konstantin Kilimnik is a Russian spy, and the fact that Trump’s campaign manager was giving him polling data how is that NOT collusion?

Why would he give him that data if not seeking assistance, not the normal nighttime reading one would give to a spy.

 

[Maggie5]

A good read on Trump's ties to all things Russian.


A new report from the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence offers a damning portrait of the people Donald Trump chose as his partners for potential projects in Russia. They include individuals with alleged connections to the mob, to Vladimir Putin and to human trafficking.

The group would comprise an extraordinary list of associates for any international businessman, let alone for the sitting president of the United States.

Trump Organization representatives did not respond to requests for comment. In 2016, Trump Organization lawyer Alan Garten insisted that the business conducts thorough due diligence on its outside partners. “We do extensive vetting on everyone we do business with,” he told Forbes at the time. “We do background checks on an international level. We do background checks on a local level. We check every available database commonly used. We use outside experts who specialize in this area. And that’s in addition to looking at the deal itself. So extensive vetting goes on.”

Doesn’t seem like it. Here are the details on the people connecting Trump to Russia.

Trump’s Business Partners Allegedly Involved In Human Trafficking, Mafia Matters, Probable Money Laundering

A new report from the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence offers a damning portrait of the people Donald Trump chose as his partners for potential projects in Russia.

www.forbes.com

 

[Lebbo73]

A good read on Trump's ties to all things Russian.


A new report from the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence offers a damning portrait of the people Donald Trump chose as his partners for potential projects in Russia. They include individuals with alleged connections to the mob, to Vladimir Putin and to human trafficking.

The group would comprise an extraordinary list of associates for any international businessman, let alone for the sitting president of the United States.

Trump Organization representatives did not respond to requests for comment. In 2016, Trump Organization lawyer Alan Garten insisted that the business conducts thorough due diligence on its outside partners. “We do extensive vetting on everyone we do business with,” he told Forbes at the time. “We do background checks on an international level. We do background checks on a local level. We check every available database commonly used. We use outside experts who specialize in this area. And that’s in addition to looking at the deal itself. So extensive vetting goes on.”

Doesn’t seem like it. Here are the details on the people connecting Trump to Russia.

Trump’s Business Partners Allegedly Involved In Human Trafficking, Mafia Matters, Probable Money Laundering

A new report from the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence offers a damning portrait of the people Donald Trump chose as his partners for potential projects in Russia.

www.forbes.com

Nearly four years have passed and still these lies are worshipped with more intensity than Mohammed. It’s time everyone took a deep breath and concentrated on more pressing issues. Chairman Dan and his ability to suppress more people than Putin would be a good start.

 

[Chief]

A good read on Trump's ties to all things Russian.


A new report from the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence offers a damning portrait of the people Donald Trump chose as his partners for potential projects in Russia. They include individuals with alleged connections to the mob, to Vladimir Putin and to human trafficking.

The group would comprise an extraordinary list of associates for any international businessman, let alone for the sitting president of the United States.

Trump Organization representatives did not respond to requests for comment. In 2016, Trump Organization lawyer Alan Garten insisted that the business conducts thorough due diligence on its outside partners. “We do extensive vetting on everyone we do business with,” he told Forbes at the time. “We do background checks on an international level. We do background checks on a local level. We check every available database commonly used. We use outside experts who specialize in this area. And that’s in addition to looking at the deal itself. So extensive vetting goes on.”

Doesn’t seem like it. Here are the details on the people connecting Trump to Russia.

Trump’s Business Partners Allegedly Involved In Human Trafficking, Mafia Matters, Probable Money Laundering

A new report from the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence offers a damning portrait of the people Donald Trump chose as his partners for potential projects in Russia.

www.forbes.com

Trump's connections to crime figures in New York are widely reported. He was refused a casino license in Australia because he was judged not to be of good character.

No surprise that he associates and does business with criminals in other countries.

His extensive vetting would be to see how he can get screwed on the deal, and how he can screw others. The quote above from Alan Garten doesn't seem to say what they do when they find a partner is an organised crime figure, just that they do their due diligence.

I doubt he would reject a business partner purely based on criminal activity.

 

[Chief]

It’s time everyone took a deep breath and concentrated on more pressing issues. Chairman Dan and his ability to suppress more people than Putin would be a good start.

I'm reading "look over there!"

 

[Lebbo73]

I'm reading "look over there!"

We’ve had the investigations Chief. Nothing was found. Tens of millions spent. Did Big Interest Grou, LLC endorse this thread?

 

[Chief]

We’ve had the investigations Chief. Nothing was found. Tens of millions spent. Did Big Interest Grou, LLC endorse this thread?

Did you read ANYTHING I linked in the OP?

Yes, lots was found. Lots and lots.

Clamping your hands over your ears doesn't change that.

 

[FireKrakouer]

Have you people no shame? This is beyond embarrassing now.

 

[Chief]

Have you people no shame? This is beyond embarrassing now.

He's talking about you, Lebbo73

 

[oogac]

If the case is closed .... why is the thread still open???

 

[EasternTiger]

I take umbrage at people suggesting Chiefs far left conspiracy theories are unhinged. I can assure you they are NOT.

THEY really are after you.

Chief posted an opinion piece which said THE RUSSIANS ARE INVOLVED! How much more evidence do you need?

Not only did the Russians help Trump elected, but they are at it again.

This time they are stealing mail boxes in Portland.

Let us examine the evidence.

 

[Balls In]

The report by the Senate Intelligence Committee, totaling nearly 1,000 pages, drew to a close one of the highest-profile congressional investigations in recent memory and could be the last word from an official government inquiry about the expansive Russian campaign to sabotage the 2016 election.

Senate Intelligence Committee? As in the same one chaired by Democrat Congressman Adam Schiff, the lead impeachment manager, who famously reckons voters shouldn't be trusted to decide the 2020 election because the democrats might not win?

"for precisely this reason, the presidents misconduct cannot be decided at the ballot box, for we cannot be assured the vote will be fairly won"

 

[Nikita Blue]

Nearly four years have passed and still these lies are worshipped with more intensity than Mohammed. It’s time everyone took a deep breath and concentrated on more pressing issues. Chairman Dan and his ability to suppress more people than Putin would be a good start.

Lebbo obviously posting from the gulag. Thoughts and prayers.

 

[Chief]

If the case is closed .... why is the thread still open???

GET BACK IN YER BOX!

 

[Hank Scorpion]

Senate Intelligence Committee? As in the same one chaired by Democrat Congressman Adam Schiff, the lead impeachment manager, who famously reckons voters shouldn't be trusted to decide the 2020 election because the democrats might not win?

"for precisely this reason, the presidents misconduct cannot be decided at the ballot box, for we cannot be assured the vote will be fairly won"

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No, Schiff is in the House. The Senate committee is led by Republicans

 

[Maggie5]

No, Schiff is in the House. The Senate committee is led by Republicans

Beat me to it. In fact I think it was chaired by Rubio as the Rupublican chair Richar Burr stepped down as was being investigated for stock purchase/sales before the virus set the stock market spiraling.

 

[Lebbo73]

He's talking about you, Lebbo73

crowdstrike admits no evidence at DuckDuckGo

DuckDuckGo. Privacy, Simplified.

duckduckgo.com

 

[Chief]

crowdstrike admits no evidence at DuckDuckGo

DuckDuckGo. Privacy, Simplified.

duckduckgo.com

And what is the relevance of this? You’ll need to explain.


"We did not have concrete evidence that data was exfiltrated from the DNC, but we have indicators that it was exfiltrated."

And in response to another query, Henry said: "There are times when we can see data exfiltrated, and we can say conclusively. But in this case, it appears it was set up to be exfiltrated, but we just don't have the evidence that says it actually left."

But...

Did CrowdStrike have proof that Russia hacked the DNC?

Yes, and this is also supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and independent Congressional reports.

Following a comprehensive investigation that CrowdStrike detailed publicly, the company concluded in May 2016 that two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries breached the DNC network.

To reference, CrowdStrike’s account of their DNC investigation, published on June 14, 2016, “CrowdStrike Services Inc., our Incident Response group, was called by the Democratic National Committee (DNC), the formal governing body for the US Democratic Party, to respond to a suspected breach. We deployed our IR team and technology and immediately identified two sophisticated adversaries on the network – COZY BEAR and FANCY BEAR…. At DNC, COZY BEAR intrusion has been identified going back to summer of 2015, while FANCY BEAR separately breached the network in April 2016.”

This conclusion has most recently been supported by the Senate Intelligence Committee in April 2020 issuing a report [intelligence.senate.gov] validating the previous conclusions of the Intelligence community, published on January 6, 2017, that Russia was behind the DNC data breach.

The Senate report states on page 48:

“The Committee found that specific intelligence as well as open source assessments support the assessment that President Putin approved and directed aspects of this influence campaign.”

Furthermore, in his testimony in front of the House Intelligence Committee, Shawn Henry stated the following with regards to CrowdStrike’s degree of confidence that the intrusion activity can be attributed to Russia, cited from page 24:

1. HENRY: We said that we had a high degree of confidence it was the Russian Government. And our analysts that looked at it and that had looked at these types of attacks before, many different types of attacks similar to this in different environments, certain tools that were used, certain methods by which they were moving in the environment,and looking at the types of data that was being targeted, that it was consistent with a nation-state adversary and associated with Russian intelligence.

Have any other organizations concluded that Russia was behind the DNC hack?

Yes. CrowdStrike’s conclusion that Russia was behind the DNC hack is supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and also by independent Congressional reports. Most recently, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report in April 2020 that validated the previous conclusions of theIntelligence Community Assessment, published on January 6, 2017, all concluding that Russia was behind the DNC data breach.

• Page 157 of the Senate report states that the Select Committee on Intelligence “conducted an extensive examination of the intelligence demonstrating Russia’s intrusions into DNC networks.“ Senator Richard Burr (R – North Carolina), who served as Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee at the time the report was issued, confirmed this finding: “The Committee found no reason to dispute the Intelligence Community’s conclusions.”
• The Intelligence Community Assessment, published on January 6, 2017 also confirms that Russia was behind the DNC hack, stating on page 2 of the report: “In July 2015, Russian intelligence gained access to Democratic National Committee (DNC) networks and maintained that access until at least June 2016. This unclassified ODNI report was based on extensive classified intelligence collected by the CIA, NSA, and FBI; the ODNI determined the classified intelligence should not be released in order to protect the sensitive sources and methods by which it was collected.

It’s also worth noting that other security companies, including Fidelis and FireEye have supported CrowdStrike’s analysis.

Does CrowdStrike have evidence that data was exfiltrated from the DNC network?

Yes. Shawn Henry stated in his testimony to the House Intelligence Committee that CrowdStrike had indicators of exfiltration (page 32) and that data had clearly left the network. Also, on page 2, theIntelligence Community Assessment also confirmed that the Russian intelligence agency GRU “had exfiltrated large volumes of data from the DNC.”

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Have you people no shame? This is beyond embarrassing now.

Remember when you conceded that Don Jnr sought to collude with Russians?

Trying to walk it back?

 

[Ohitsthatguy]

The Mueller report is incredibly damning, people dismiss it because Trump is still in office

Mueller report - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

All with sources

"The investigation intentionally took an approach that could not result in a judgement that Trump committed a crime,[18][19][20] abiding by an Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) opinion that a sitting president is immune from criminal prosecution"

Trump fans are scary because they will follow him until the end. It's literally a cult.

 

[Balls In]

In summary Russian hackers hacked Hillary's "special" server, gave the dirt file to Wikileaks and America recoiled in horror when they saw what she was really up to. Then Americas intelligence agencies spent 4 years trying to link the leak to Trump but failed and have now released a report saying "yeah but he knows heaps of Russians hey"!

 

[GuruJane]

The Mueller report is incredibly damning, people dismiss it because Trump is still in office

Mueller report - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

All with sources

"The investigation intentionally took an approach that could not result in a judgement that Trump committed a crime,[18][19][20] abiding by an Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) opinion that a sitting president is immune from criminal prosecution"

Mueller had so much on Trump he issued subpoenas to make him be interviewed.

Oh wait ... he didn't.