2nds The SANFL Thread

[AFC979810]

Ahhh yes, the money hungry SANFL.....as compared to the wasteful, arrogant, self serving AFL.
Make up your mind. Do you want AFL players at SANFL clubs or not?
More bullshit! Stop trying to stuff around and manipulate an independent viable football league for your own selfish means.

I would appreciate it if you could let the adults talk instead of just sprouting shit like 'Sam Kerridge played well against North and he wasn't developed by a Crows Reserve' and 'John Butcher hasn't developed - maybe Port Magpies should move him to another SANFL club'.

What did you disagree with in my post?

I want our Crows players playing for a reserves side. If on the very rare occassion we can't fit a player into our two sides then I think it very feasible that they play in the SANFL reserves for a fee.

Yes - my AFL is arrogant and self serving. It has every right to be as it is the premier competition in the country.

 

[Dandy_GO]

Did anybody see the South Adelaide game today? I've seen Hartigan play a couple of times this year, but I didn't catch the game today. I reckon he looks like more of a Bock style key defender than a dour stopper, which, with Talia a Presti clone, is far more useful to us. He seems to get a few kicked on him, but Hartigan's run out of defence is very encouraging. He's very direct and looks good with the ball in hand. Looks like he had another decent game today in a defence under siege. 17 touches and 5 rebound 50s isn't bad. The Eagles did smash South, however, and Salter kicked 3 (though from only 9 touches). Was Hartigan standing him, or did he manage to keep his man quiet while still picking a bit of the ball himself?

It seems like he's slowly building into a very good SANFL player, so hopefully he can work his way towards an AFL debut.

 

[Crow-eater]

Lyons should be flying back today and should play for Glenelg tomorrow. Gives him 2 games in the SANFL to be primed for the GC game.

 

[PykeDream]

Did anybody see the South Adelaide game today? I've seen Hartigan play a couple of times this year, but I didn't catch the game today. I reckon he looks like more of a Bock style key defender than a dour stopper, which, with Talia a Presti clone, is far more useful to us. He seems to get a few kicked on him, but Hartigan's run out of defence is very encouraging. He's very direct and looks good with the ball in hand. Looks like he had another decent game today in a defence under siege. 17 touches and 5 rebound 50s isn't bad. The Eagles did smash South, however, and Salter kicked 3 (though from only 9 touches). Was Hartigan standing him, or did he manage to keep his man quiet while still picking a bit of the ball himself?

It seems like he's slowly building into a very good SANFL player, so hopefully he can work his way towards an AFL debut.

Given the way Salter seems to have been playing (going by weekly stats), only conceding 3 goals in a blowout is a mighty good effort.

 

[Team DJ]

Given the way Salter seems to have been playing (going by weekly stats), only conceding 3 goals in a blowout is a mighty good effort.

Isnt Salter injured

 

[Mego Red]

Ahhh yes, the money hungry SANFL.....as compared to the wasteful, arrogant, self serving AFL.
Make up your mind. Do you want AFL players at SANFL clubs or not?
More bullshit! Stop trying to stuff around and manipulate an independent viable football league for your own selfish means.

What?

No, we don't want our AFL players at SANFL clubs.

And "viable" is a debatable term, considering how close to broke so many clubs are.

 

[1990crow]

Did anybody see the South Adelaide game today? I've seen Hartigan play a couple of times this year, but I didn't catch the game today. I reckon he looks like more of a Bock style key defender than a dour stopper, which, with Talia a Presti clone, is far more useful to us. He seems to get a few kicked on him, but Hartigan's run out of defence is very encouraging. He's very direct and looks good with the ball in hand. Looks like he had another decent game today in a defence under siege. 17 touches and 5 rebound 50s isn't bad. The Eagles did smash South, however, and Salter kicked 3 (though from only 9 touches). Was Hartigan standing him, or did he manage to keep his man quiet while still picking a bit of the ball himself?

It seems like he's slowly building into a very good SANFL player, so hopefully he can work his way towards an AFL debut.

I think he was playing on Wundke who I think I recall had at maximum one goal.

 

[*PAF]

dowdell moved to centrals

one thing that needs to be looked at for a reserves team is how to manage all those players competing for the same spot? crows have 3(?) reserves ruckmen i believe. how do you go about managing a situation like that?

Now they are playing Mason Shaw as the ruckman in the reserves.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

Now they are playing Mason Shaw as the ruckman in the reserves.

Who?

Sam Shaw plays for the Gay Bays.

 

[Stinger...]

I think he was playing on Wundke who I think I recall had at maximum one goal.

Lol Wundke is his team mate! He played on Ainger! Hartigans disposal is a bit poo!

 

[brucetiki]

What?

No, we don't want our AFL players at SANFL clubs.

And "viable" is a debatable term, considering how close to broke so many clubs are.

Sturt is in financial difficulty, yes, name me 3 other clubs facing financial ruin and your point might be valid.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Stiffy kicked the winning goal against Norwood today?

 

[hey shorty]

Stiffy kicked the winning goal against Norwood today?

Stood up when required.......sorry ill go now.

 

[Mego Red]

Sturt is in financial difficulty, yes, name me 3 other clubs facing financial ruin and your point might be valid.

Bruce - you know that Centrals have found it tough over the last couple of years. West posted a $500k deficit. North went to the SANFL for money. That's without even googling.

The teams are in the wrong suburbs for today's population and kids are growing up with little interest in local league. These are endemic problems.

 

[AusTerran]

Did anybody see the South Adelaide game today? I've seen Hartigan play a couple of times this year, but I didn't catch the game today. I reckon he looks like more of a Bock style key defender than a dour stopper, which, with Talia a Presti clone, is far more useful to us. He seems to get a few kicked on him, but Hartigan's run out of defence is very encouraging. He's very direct and looks good with the ball in hand. Looks like he had another decent game today in a defence under siege. 17 touches and 5 rebound 50s isn't bad. The Eagles did smash South, however, and Salter kicked 3 (though from only 9 touches). Was Hartigan standing him, or did he manage to keep his man quiet while still picking a bit of the ball himself?

It seems like he's slowly building into a very good SANFL player, so hopefully he can work his way towards an AFL debut.

The South v Eagles game is up on iView if you like to watch it yourself

http://www.abc.net.au/iview/#/sport

 

[saintal]

Did anybody see the South Adelaide game today? I've seen Hartigan play a couple of times this year, but I didn't catch the game today. I reckon he looks like more of a Bock style key defender than a dour stopper, which, with Talia a Presti clone, is far more useful to us. He seems to get a few kicked on him, but Hartigan's run out of defence is very encouraging. He's very direct and looks good with the ball in hand. Looks like he had another decent game today in a defence under siege. 17 touches and 5 rebound 50s isn't bad. The Eagles did smash South, however, and Salter kicked 3 (though from only 9 touches). Was Hartigan standing him, or did he manage to keep his man quiet while still picking a bit of the ball himself?

It seems like he's slowly building into a very good SANFL player, so hopefully he can work his way towards an AFL debut.

Hartigan is a monster. His performance has been a rare highlight in what has been a (another) miserable year for South. Dominated the 1-on-1 contests with Andrew "Money Bags" Ainger today, with Ainger's only kick for the day coming from a questionable free kick. Does remind me of a young Talia when he was starting out with South.

 

[Elite Crow]

Hartigan is a monster. His performance has been a rare highlight in what has been a (another) miserable year for South. Dominated the 1-on-1 contests with Andrew "Money Bags" Ainger today, with Ainger's only kick for the day coming from a questionable free kick. Does remind me of a young Talia when he was starting out with South.

Could he come in and hold down CHB for the Crows?

 

[chazwazza]

Bruce - you know that Centrals have found it tough over the last couple of years. West posted a $500k deficit. North went to the SANFL for money. That's without even googling.

The teams are in the wrong suburbs for today's population and kids are growing up with little interest in local league. These are endemic problems.

As compared to some AFL clubs that are going cap in hand for multiple millions over multiple years, yes viable is a debatable term indeed.

 

[Mego Red]

As compared to some AFL clubs that are going cap in hand for multiple millions over multiple years, yes viable is a debatable term indeed.

Sorry - but TERRIBLE point. The AFL is earning hundreds of millions of dollars a year. Clubs have every right to ask for more of that revenue when they need it, because ultimately they earned it. A club can't go broke because they are 1/16 of a billion dollar organization, and they are essential contributors to this.

SANFL clubs, however, are relying on pokie income and pub ownership.

See how dumb your point is? AFL clubs are creating value. SANFL clubs are largely parasitic.

 

[chazwazza]

I would appreciate it if you could let the adults talk instead of just sprouting shit like 'Sam Kerridge played well against North and he wasn't developed by a Crows Reserve' and 'John Butcher hasn't developed - maybe Port Magpies should move him to another SANFL club'.

What did you disagree with in my post?

I want our Crows players playing for a reserves side. If on the very rare occassion we can't fit a player into our two sides then I think it very feasible that they play in the SANFL reserves for a fee.

Yes - my AFL is arrogant and self serving. It has every right to be as it is the premier competition in the country.

What did I disagree with? Try this-
"That is also simple. Do a deal with the money hungry SANFL where each Crows player is delegated to play for an SANFL reserves side if they can't make one of our two sides. Pay them a cash amount for each game. If they aren't good enough to make our reserves side, I doubt they would be good enough for SANFL level."
You want a reserves side because your players aren't being developed as you wish ....sometimes with some players IMHO, fair enough I have no problem with that, but then you realise that you've then got a problem with having 4 ruckmen in the same team. So your answer is to put them into a SANFL team...... So how are they going to be developed properly if they're not in your team which is your argument in the first place.
To me it adds to how some of the arguments don't really stack up.

Secondly my "shit comments" about Kerridge and Butcher. I'm just making a point about perceptions and how one person can choose one player as an example for their argument yet totally leave out another player that will contradict the argument. I just stated that Kerridge seems to have come along very well at Sturt after getting his terrible disposal sorted out. I thought that Butchers predicament was actually a very interesting one in this whole debate, maybe he isn't being developed very well at the Magpies, maybe, just maybe he would be better served at another SANFL side.
Just thinking outside of the square.

Thirdly, just because Adelaide and Port are playing in a national competition, it doesn't give them any right to demand to enter another competition and dictate just what league they are going to play in all the while ignoring the huge detriment it could have to the fabric of the comp.
It is a disgraceful attitude.

 

[Team DJ]

Sorry - but TERRIBLE point. The AFL is earning hundreds of millions of dollars a year. Clubs have every right to ask for more of that revenue when they need it, because ultimately they earned it. A club can't go broke because they are 1/16 of a billion dollar organization, and they are essential contributors to this.

SANFL clubs, however, are relying on pokie income and pub ownership.

See how dumb your point is? AFL clubs are creating value. SANFL clubs are largely parasitic.

When at least 2 SANFL clubs have 1 person in their Football Departments it goes to show you they are relying on the business rather then Football Clubs these days.

 

[Team DJ]

Port Magpies are coming good. Knocked off some big teams of late

 

[chazwazza]

Sorry - but TERRIBLE point. The AFL is earning hundreds of millions of dollars a year. Clubs have every right to ask for more of that revenue when they need it, because ultimately they earned it. A club can't go broke because they are 1/16 of a billion dollar organization, and they are essential contributors to this.

SANFL clubs, however, are relying on pokie income and pub ownership.

See how dumb your point is? AFL clubs are creating value. SANFL clubs are largely parasitic.

Doesn't mean that the clubs are viable though does it. Dumb?

 

[1970crow]

I can't imagine 9 will care, as its just an outside broadcast truck heading to a ground in the suburbs.

But we should get real - this is incredibly unlikely to happen. The ABC were getting the SANFL, and getting 70k a year. After getting the arse from the ABC, the likelihood of the SANFL coming up with $1m to put themselves on FTA seems delusional.

This is the first step in the process to reclaim the title of number 1 footy comp in the country.

Step 1 - get games on commercial fta stations.
Step 2 - ?????
Step 3 - number one league in the country.

 

[1970crow]

Excellent point. This is actually one of the biggest arguments against having a reserves team (along with cost, finding extras to make up the numbers, finding a league which will accept them - and getting the license owner (the SANFL) to agree to the whole arrangement).

It's not that great a point. Look at the size of the list, deduct injuries and we won't even field a team. Logically there is only one position on the field that it could be an issue and that is ruck. How many lumbering, 1 trick pony ruckman should we have on our list. One in the firsts, one in the seconds and 1 rookie project? The others are backup who will be developing their key position play and covering the resting ruckman.