Work & Education The School/Uni Thread

[Millky95]

I'm more concerned about what it says about our education system that one can spend so much time on here and still get an HD average...

I've averaging a HD but use here as down time. Good place for a laugh and non-high level uni discussions.

 

[vonn]

USyd (Business) doesn't permit lecturers-in-charge to scale anymore but they operate under some unwritten rules. No more than 10% to get > D is one.
Don't sell yourself short, it is a good achievement and seriously beneficial on your resume.

Where did you get this from? I must have some pretty damn intelligent friends then...

 

[Number37]

Where did you get this from? I must have some pretty damn intelligent friends then...

That is an 'operational matter', you will just have to trust me.
You must hang out with the nerds if you are all getting D's. No wonder SM wasn't interested.

 

[RW]

Your thoughts, vonn?

https://flitmusings.wordpress.com/2015/06/08/how-to-waste-time-productively/

 

[vonn]

Your thoughts, vonn?

https://flitmusings.wordpress.com/2015/06/08/how-to-waste-time-productively/

Haha good article. Lol'd.

I mentally in my head put the due date two days before the actual due date so even when I do procrastinate it's not a big deal

 

[Number37]

Haha good article. Lol'd.

I mentally in my head put the due date two days before the actual due date so even when I do procrastinate it's not a big deal

Mentally can only be in your head.

 

[RUNVS]

I am reading over the learning guides for my masters units this semester (my first semester doing my masters) and I am already panicking as there is at least twice as much work for each unit than the bachelors, probably more than twice as much.

 

[vonn]

I have an open book exam and legitimately 170 pages (85 double sided) of typed notes with a barely non-existent margin. This isn't including my textbook or lecture slides. This gon be gud.

 

[RUNVS]

I have an open book exam and legitimately 170 pages (85 double sided) of typed notes with a barely non-existent margin. This isn't including my textbook or lecture slides. This gon be gud.

That is a lot. In some ways closed book is better as they do not expect as much from you in terms of quality of answers.

 

[vonn]

That is a lot. In some ways closed book is better as they do not expect as much from you in terms of quality of answers.

Yeh for sure I hate open book. I have an extra 10 pages which is just the summary of my summary but I'm torn! I have a 170, a 40 and a 10. I keep summarising it but then it's like what's the point - just bring the 170 and make tabs. Stupid.

 

[RUNVS]

Yeh for sure I hate open book. I have an extra 10 pages which is just the summary of my summary but I'm torn! I have a 170, a 40 and a 10. I keep summarising it but then it's like what's the point - just bring the 170 and make tabs. Stupid.

Taking the 170 pages and making sure you create an index so you know exactly where everything is in the 170 pages is probably best.

If you only take the 40 pages the universe will guarantee that half the questions will require information that you do not have on the shortened version of your notes.

 

[vonn]

Taking the 170 pages and making sure you create an index so you know exactly where everything is in the 170 pages is probably best.

If you only take the 40 pages the universe will guarantee that half the questions will require information that you do not have on the shortened version of your notes.

It's only $8.50 worth of printing too and I'll hit up the 8 size font Hahahaha

 

[RUNVS]

It's only $8.50 worth of printing too and I'll hit up the 8 size font Hahahaha

I think it is a good idea. How long is the exam?

 

[Number37]

I have an open book exam and legitimately 170 pages (85 double sided) of typed notes with a barely non-existent margin. This isn't including my textbook or lecture slides. This gon be gud.

That is absolutely crazy!

You should be able to summarize all your notes on a single A4 sheet. Yes, that's right ONE SHEET!!!!
If you can't find what you are looking for on 2 pages, you either (a) won't be able to find it on 170 pages or (b) it will take you too long to find it.
If, for whatever reason, you can't find it, it probably means you don't know it well enough to write anything meaningful.

You are a hundred times better off limiting your notes to what you do know.
1. Having a single sheet with a ready reference ( of all topics) will help you to think clearly about what is and what isn't relevant and what you do and don't know off the top of your head.
2. You will surprise yourself because something that doesn't immediately pop into your head will appear like magic later on, because you are thinking about things clearly.

 

[RUNVS]

That is absolutely crazy!

You should be able to summarize all your notes on a single A4 sheet. Yes, that's right ONE SHEET!!!!
If you can't find what you are looking for on 2 pages, you either (a) won't be able to find it on 170 pages or (b) it will take you too long to find it.
If, for whatever reason, you can't find it, it probably means you don't know it well enough to write anything meaningful.

You are a hundred times better off limiting your notes to what you do know.
1. Having a single sheet with a ready reference ( of all topics) will help you to think clearly about what is and what isn't relevant and what you do and don't know off the top of your head.
2. You will surprise yourself because something that doesn't immediately pop into your head will appear like magic later on, because you are thinking about things clearly.

It all depends on how Vonn's mind works. If all she needs is a small reminder to jog her memory then this is a good idea. If she is worried about not getting that jog though then perhaps it is better to take in all 170 pages.

Or better yet would be to write a 1 or 2 page summary and with every dot point put in a page number next to it so you can reference it in more detail in the 170 pages if she needs to.

 

[vonn]

That is absolutely crazy!

You should be able to summarize all your notes on a single A4 sheet. Yes, that's right ONE SHEET!!!!
If you can't find what you are looking for on 2 pages, you either (a) won't be able to find it on 170 pages or (b) it will take you too long to find it.
If, for whatever reason, you can't find it, it probably means you don't know it well enough to write anything meaningful.

You are a hundred times better off limiting your notes to what you do know.
1. Having a single sheet with a ready reference ( of all topics) will help you to think clearly about what is and what isn't relevant and what you do and don't know off the top of your head.
2. You will surprise yourself because something that doesn't immediately pop into your head will appear like magic later on, because you are thinking about things clearly.

Nah, I understand it all but we are expected to reference (actual in text referencing) secondary sources so can't do one sheet. It's not a short answer/multiple choice but one long case analysis so one page wouldn't suffice. I'd agree with you if it was like say economics where you have to understand the actual concept because 100 pages won't help if you have no idea what you're talking about but in this case every concept and theory is applicable and correct if you can justify it so the more sources you have the better your marks will be. I prefer closed book though.

 

[Number37]

It all depends on how Vonn's mind works. If all she needs is a small reminder to jog her memory then this is a good idea. If she is worried about not getting that jog though then perhaps it is better to take in all 170 pages.

Or better yet would be to write a 1 or 2 page summary and with every dot point put in a page number next to it so you can reference it in more detail in the 170 pages if she needs to.

Not saying she shouldn't take in all 170 pages, but the key to any exam is clear thinking. Take in stuff that helps you to think clearly. You have to be super organised in open book exams because they are specifically written so that you don't have enough time to do anything other than have a quick glance at your notes every now and then. The benefit of having notes will be exhausted in reading time, if you can't use them effectively in reading time they are more of a liability than a help. The more notes you have the less effectively you can use them and most importantly, there is a negative relationship between the time you spend on a question and the marks that you can get.

 

[Number37]

Nah, I understand it all but we are expected to reference (actual in text referencing) secondary sources so can't do one sheet. It's not a short answer/multiple choice but one long case analysis so one page wouldn't suffice. I'd agree with you if it was like say economics where you have to understand the actual concept because 100 pages won't help if you have no idea what you're talking about but in this case every concept and theory is applicable and correct if you can justify it so the more sources you have the better your marks will be. I prefer closed book though.

I am not saying use one sheet and that's it. Given that you need your notes for referencing, it is even more important that you have a ready reference. Why do you think books start with a table of contents?

 

[Number37]

... but in this case every concept and theory is applicable and correct if you can justify it so the more sources you have the better your marks will be. I prefer closed book though.

Exams are about displaying your knowledge. Writing really well about the things you know really well stands out, on top of that you will think of something else which you can throw in as a 'on the other hand', or 'further supported by' and you don't need to go into copious detail because you have explained yourself so brilliantly writing about the things that you know really well.

 

[Millky95]

Wow. I am so glad my course doesn't have exams

 

[RUNVS]

With one of my units I have to find a child in stage 1 of development (essentially years 1 and 2 at school) and have them read to me. How the hell am I supposed to find a child of that age when I don't actually know any children of that age.

 

[vonn]

With one of my units I have to find a child in stage 1 of development (essentially years 1 and 2 at school) and have them read to me. How the hell am I supposed to find a child of that age when I don't actually know any children of that age.

I can mimic a child of that age if it helps.

 

[vonn]

Unsure of dancing sheep (yes an actual gif) to stats but thanks lecturer...

 

[RUNVS]

I can mimic a child of that age if it helps.

Could you pretend not to know around 10% of the words in the book you are reading?

 

[vonn]

Could you pretend not to know around 10% of the words in the book you are reading?

If Luke is near me I don't have to pretend.