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This thread is funny, I thought earning freekicks for your team was a good thing?
Good on Joel, I say.
Good on Joel, I say.
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Trust a West Coast fan to say thisThis thread is funny, I thought earning freekicks for your team was a good thing?
Good on Joel, I say.
Yeah, I love Geelong so much.Trust a West Coast fan to say this
Boooooo.Yeah, I love Geelong so much.
That’s fine he’s got every right to break the tackle. Just don’t give him a free for it.If he lifts his shoulder the onus is on the pissweak tackler to lock him down correctly. So he can't lift his shoulder. Problem solved.
Many here instead suggesting rewarding s**t players for s**t tackles, or expect Joel to not evade the tackle and get caught holding the ball. I wonder if they realize how stupid they sound
That’s fine he’s got every right to break the tackle. Just don’t give him a free for it.
You’re right the umps get sucked in over and over. But Selwood does help when he whinges about not getting a free for exactly this action.Then it's probably more appropriate you direct your anguish towards the AFL/Umpires before Selwood
So what are you trying to say here, Selwood is fine but Shuey, Christensen, thomas and puopolo are not?. Now there is the classic "One eyed supporter". Jeez.Unfortunately its been lumped in with ducking into tackles (shuey, christensen) and diving ( thomas, poupolo). But they are all very different.
You’re right the umps get sucked in over and over. But Selwood does help when he whinges about not getting a free for exactly this action.
Seriously?Haven't really seen this and haven't ever seen him argue with an umpire
Thats a confession of defeat if ever weve seen one.Then it's probably more appropriate you direct your anguish towards the AFL/Umpires before Selwood
So does every other player when they are tackled around the neck.Whatever. He’s still a grub. The arm shrug doesn’t mean he has to throw his head back and appeal for the free - but he does it anyway
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So does every other player when they are tackled around the neck.
If that was the rule players would deliberately develop tackle techniques that involved ripping players heads off.He doesn't duck, he leads with his head. More stupid than brave.
He lifts his arm no doubt. The free should be based on where the tackle starts, not where it ends. Its hard to see in a split second so the umpires should use commonsense and not pay these frees to known arm raisers and knee droppers. Everyone knows who they are.
Great player still, but he'd be greater if he didn't carry on like a pork chop when he doesn't get a dubious free kick.
ducker or no ducker he has never been able to achieve anything without being parachuted into a super team.
Every player who is tackled around the neck or head throws their head back. Selwood at least keeps playing on as umpires often dont give him frees he deserves. Most players just stop and assume they will get the free.But no one to the extent and length of time that Selwood has. That’s the difference
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We have seen something like Selwood.
And his name is Billy Picken.
Between 1974 and 1983, Picken received 709 free kicks. Yes, that's right, 709. And he played 207 games in that 10-year span, compared to Selwood's 225 between 2010-2019.
Every player who is tackled around the neck or head throws their head back. Selwood at least keeps playing on as umpires often dont give him frees he deserves. Most players just stop and assume they will get the free.
And we all thought the game was over umpired today.This isn't really an unusual number for the era, TBH.
If you look back at the numbers, it wasn't unusual for teams to "earn" 35+ frees each in a game in the '70s and early '80s, which is nearly double what is awarded today, despite far more closely contested and stoppage situations in today's footy.
Did you factor in the three extra games each round?Free kick numbers have declined over the years, going down in the mid 1990s, on average there are 25 - 30% less free kicks today, as compared with the 1970s.
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Note here that Selwood is the only player to have played post 1996 on this list.
1970 - 1979 there were 108,500 free kicks given.
Ian Nankervis from your mob got 743 free kicks 1970 - 1979, Don Scott had 680 as you said.
By contrast 2010 - 2019 there were 76,627 frees given.
So trying to bring up Don Scott as a "much greater rate" is a farce, as Don Scott only had 9.3% more frees than Selwood, compared to the 29.4% more free kicks in the period of 1970 - 1979 as compared to this decade.
Selwood is at a far greater standard deviation.