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spinynorman

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Taylor Swift undoubtedly has a bunch of quality, catchy songs, but it's naive to say she just got there through talent alone. Her father is a Merrill Lynch stockbroker who used his connections and wealth to have her signed to her first record label. In fact, it's hard to find many modern musicians, however talented, who don't have similar stories in their rise. It's harder and harder for, say, a Bruce Springsteen (as a person mentioned in here) son of a bus driver to crack it in the commercialised artistic world - certainly not to the mainstream level of Taylor or Ariana (daughter of a CEO) or what have you.
 

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Any half decent pub with live music has unfulfilled talent in spades mate.

If Taylor Swift was not pretty and marketable do you really think she stands out on her raw talent? Her stuff is overproduced and rather generic.

And the example of Kanye above is a point well made too.
chief doesn't think tay tay is much chop and he is never wrong so......:p
 

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Begs the question can you think of any good right-wing songs? Sweet Home Alabama (which I loathe)?


Rock the Casbah - The Clash
I Fought The Law - The Crickets and others, would you consider that right wing? It's certainly anti-police.
Canadian band Rush are not hard core conservative but some of their stuff is certainly bent that way.
 

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You just reminded me of speaking to a guy I know fleetingly from the dog park. He went to see them at the bowl and complained about Peter Garrett "ruining it with his political speeches". :drunk:

FFS, some people really don't get it. You go to a Midnight Oli gig for the politics. An angry Peter Garrett is a good Peter Garrett.

Dog park guy would be better placed at a Taylor Swift concert. She doesn't know her arse from her elbow and I doubt there'd be too many grandiose political statements forthcoming.
 

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Rock the Casbah - The Clash
I Fought The Law - The Crickets and others, would you consider that right wing? It's certainly anti-police.
Canadian band Rush are not hard core conservative but some of their stuff is certainly bent that way.

Anti-police being a right wing tenet?

Wow, the hatred of Taylor Swift in here sure is something to behold. What is it about a successful woman that gets men so up in arms?

It's just one particular person with an axe to grind.
 

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This song may not have aged great, but it kinda rocks - like Green Day but with better politics.

Plus it gave us the lyric "France, wrong".
 

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Anti-police being a right wing tenet?



It's just one particular person with an axe to grind.


Lighten up, it’s just a bit of fun. The first bit of your response…I was just asking a question but yeah since you asked I’d say that the “right” have a bigger issue with authority than the “left.” That’s not an unreasonable assumption. But seriously, it was just an innocent question as to whether you’d consider I Fought The Law to be a political song.

I have the other guy on ignore but assume that was a shot at me too. Ho-hum.
 

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Taylor Swift undoubtedly has a bunch of quality, catchy songs, but it's naive to say she just got there through talent alone. Her father is a Merrill Lynch stockbroker who used his connections and wealth to have her signed to her first record label. In fact, it's hard to find many modern musicians, however talented, who don't have similar stories in their rise. It's harder and harder for, say, a Bruce Springsteen (as a person mentioned in here) son of a bus driver to crack it in the commercialised artistic world - certainly not to the mainstream level of Taylor or Ariana (daughter of a CEO) or what have you.

Beg to differ.

While one's socio-economic environment can assist with the initial discovery and promotion of any talented musical artist, if that artist is indeed talented they will usually find a certain level of success regardless. Just two recent examples; Adele is part of a working class family from Liverpool who could never even afford a holiday outside the UK - while Ed Sheeran was a busker..! Of a few earlier examples Ray Charles was from abject poverty, Tina Turner was a waitress studying nursing...

While the opportunity of self-promotion and discovery has shifted enormously in modern times thanks to the Internet, being fairly well read on the subject, it's surprising how many current and former famous artists or bands were/have been actually 'discovered' by other artists and/or local level agents or promotors.

The initial development and future success of our pop/rock/other stars was and remains predominately from industry contacts that can simply be derived from a local publican making a call to mate of a mate etc. - it rarely has anything to do the wealth or social standing of their families. If this was in anyway relevant vs actual talent - Ivanka Trump would be the biggest pop star in the World..!

Final point - Ms. Swift stupidly sold her first 6 albums to investors which included the publishing rights and copyright of her compositions. Sadly this is a familiar story with many successful artists, given their modest tertiary educations and often a complete lack of interest in the business side of their careers.
But one would think, given her so-called wealthy/influential family, they would simply not of allowed this to happen and protected her from an industry littered with deceptive characters and opportunists..?
 
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The Graund doing 30 greatest Paul Weller tunes reminded me of how much a love The Eton Rifles, a great class warfare song and one of the few of mentions of Slough in pop culture outside of The Office. Fun fact, when HM is in residence at Windsor she still has a Slough (SL) postcode, as does Eton College. This has for many years infuriated the little John Bullshitters who worry about such things, because in honesty Slough is a proper dump best known for being for being named after a bog and having the largest private trading estate in Europe, as a result there's been a long running campaign, all in the name of insurance premiums we're assured, for a WM (Windsor and Maidenhead) postcode for the area to stop this happening anymore.
 

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If you want a political music movie,

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Based upon the fight Zapper and Snyder waged to attempt to stop Tipper Gore's war on naughty things
 

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Swift is to music what McDonald’s represents to fine dining.
My ten year old daughter described her as like eating sour lollies, “the first couple are good but then you have to drink lots of water to clean your tongue off”.
She’s a marketing exercise, that she plays and writes is of no relevance.
 

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