The Star Crossed Players.. Doedee v Lever, Burton v McGrath, Buddy v Tambling etc

[Luv_our_club]

Name the players that you always think of when assessing a player from your team, and why...

An example... Ryan Burton is linked in my mind with.....
- Doedee.... (Crows chose him over Burton in the draft)
- Jed Anderson.... (North swapped picks that the Hawks used on Burton)
- Andy McGrath.... the Rising Star battle

Tonight, it was Petraca and McCartin

 

[Lance Uppercut]

That is so absolutely not what star crossed means...

 

[The Blueseum]

Cripps and Lennon.

 

[Luv_our_club]

That is so absolutely not what star crossed means...

You could be right... Wikipedia says....

"star crossed... also refers to destiny and the inevitability of the two characters' paths crossing. It usually but not always refers to unlucky outcomes, since Romeo and Juliet's affair ended tragically"

Perhaps this is what you mean by "absolute" misuse... that you don't prefer this definition/usage found on Wikipedia.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Wines and Viney- similar players, same age, grew up together, best friends, one is captain of his club the other vice captain (future captain)

 

[Luv_our_club]

Wines and Viney- similar players, same age, grew up together, best friends, one is captain of his club the other vice captain (future captain)

And the fact Melbourne might have drafted them both.

Toumpas is the other that comes to mind when i measure Wines career.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

You could be right... Wikipedia says....

"star crossed... also refers to destiny and the inevitability of the two characters' paths crossing. It usually but not always refers to unlucky outcomes, since Romeo and Juliet's affair ended tragically"

Perhaps this is what you mean by "absolute" misuse... that you don't prefer this definition/usage found on Wikipedia.

Fantastic selective quoting!

Your snippet says "the characters", as in Romeo and Juliet, or other lovers, in the context of the actual definition, that bring found in the full entry as per below.

It might refer to some players, of course, not that there's anything wrong with that

The broadest possible definition you could use is simply thwarted by bad luck, so maybe Scotty Gumbleton was star crossed; but a crossing of star players is surely mangling it beyond all recognition hahaha

"Star-crossed" or "star-crossed lovers" is a phrase describing a pair of lovers whose relationship is often thwarted by outside forces. The term encompasses other meanings, but originally means the pairing is being "thwarted by a malign star" or that the stars are working against the relationship.[1] Astrological in origin, the phrase stems from the belief that the positions of the stars ruled over people's fates, and is best known from the play Romeo and Julietby the Elizabethan playwright William Shakespeare. Such pairings are often said to be doomed from the start.

The phrase was coined in the prologue of Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet:

From forth the fatal loins of these two foes,
A pair of star-cross'd lovers take their life (5–6).[2]

It also refers to destiny and the inevitability of the two characters' paths crossing. It usually but not always refers to unlucky outcomes, since Romeo and Juliet's affair ended tragically. Further, it connotes that the lovers entered into their union without sufficient forethought or preparation; that the lovers may not have had adequate knowledge of each other or that they were not thinking rationally.[1]

 

[Acinath]

Fiora v Pavlich. We sucked at drafting years before the Buddy/Tambling one

 

[Gavin Excell]

Just on Burton and McGrath

The two standouts from last years Rising Star - McGrath narrowly got the nod that caused some debate at the time (and still does)

Early days into this season but i havent seen anything from Burton this year that puts him ahead. In fact gap may have increased in Mcgraths favour

 

[Great8]

Just on Burton and McGrath

The two standouts from last years Rising Star - McGrath narrowly got the nod that caused some debate at the time (and still does)

Early days into this season but i havent seen anything from Burton this year that puts him ahead. In fact gap may have increased in Mcgraths favour

Burton is going through a slight dip in form as I’m sure McGrath will at some time. Both young excellent players and I doubt either team would swap what them

 

[Burtman]

Just on Burton and McGrath

The two standouts from last years Rising Star - McGrath narrowly got the nod that caused some debate at the time (and still does)

Early days into this season but i havent seen anything from Burton this year that puts him ahead. In fact gap may have increased in Mcgraths favour

Burtons been shocking, should of rested the ankle after round 1. Now he has no confidence and his movements still not right. McGrath not exactly setting the world on fire either. Guys like parfitt, Taranto and Fisher have started the year a lot better

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Burtons been shocking, should of rested the ankle after round 1. Now he has no confidence and his movements still not right. McGrath not exactly setting the world on fire either. Guys like parfitt, Taranto and Fisher have started the year a lot better

Eh? McGrath has been good this year

 

[Burtman]

Eh? McGrath has been good this year

Had a good game against Adelaide, the rest he’s been ok, wouldn’t say a stand out. Been a little shaky with his kicking in some games

 

[Plat]

Watts vs Natanui?

 

[Jables]

Going in pretty early on some of these. I remember Rioli and Palmer was a massive debate, everyone forgot after a short while. At least compared to Buddy v Tambling which will always be hilarious considering the gloating of Terry Wallace.

 

[detox]

Eh? McGrath has been good this year

Mcgrath hasnt done anything to indicate a step up in level from last year. Nothing better than a pass mark.

Burtons been very poor though.

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[BPikkers]

Just on Burton and McGrath

The two standouts from last years Rising Star - McGrath narrowly got the nod that caused some debate at the time (and still does)

Early days into this season but i havent seen anything from Burton this year that puts him ahead. In fact gap may have increased in Mcgraths favour

WAY WAY AHEAD. In fact Doedee looks like the better player this year.

 

[liam123]

Tim kelly vs Oscar Allen
Ainsworth vs Banfield
SPP vs venables
Cockatoo vs Duggan
Lamb vs Blakely
Cripps vs sheed

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

That is so absolutely not what star crossed means...

To be fair the concept is about the level of nuance befitting the habit of making these comparison

 

[Luv_our_club]

To be fair the concept is about the level of nuance befitting the habit of making these comparison

I have re-read this sentence a few times.................????? But i still know what you are saying.

 

[Brick Loosener]

2009
Melbourne
Fyfe
Martin

Richmond
jack Trengrove

 

[MattyB_76]

You could be right... Wikipedia says....

"star crossed... also refers to destiny and the inevitability of the two characters' paths crossing. It usually but not always refers to unlucky outcomes, since Romeo and Juliet's affair ended tragically"

Perhaps this is what you mean by "absolute" misuse... that you don't prefer this definition/usage found on Wikipedia.

Mate, are you the same person who taught Damien Barrett what a 'Sliding Doors' moment is?

 

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

Mate, are you the same person who taught Damien Barrett what a 'Sliding Doors' moment is?

If you were Damien Barrett...

...you'd have no idea that this wasn't an example of a sliding doors moment.

 

[_Wang_]

Cripps and Lennon.

Urrrrrghhhh

 

[HairyO]

Just on Burton and McGrath

The two standouts from last years Rising Star - McGrath narrowly got the nod that caused some debate at the time (and still does)

Early days into this season but i havent seen anything from Burton this year that puts him ahead. In fact gap may have increased in Mcgraths favour

You didnt watch the game on ANZAC Day I guess. About the only touch McGrath had was throwing the ball back short and giving away a 50m penalty taking the Collingwood player to the goal line.

In a game where Essendon had 400 possessions kicking back and forth across the defensive 50 and going nowhere, he still only managed 10 possessions.

Both of them havent been particularly good this year. But it is still early. And they are now expected to play as well as anyone in the team, rather than play as well as any of the newer guys.