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  1. fpcookie

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    That's why we've gone down -5 in average games
     

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  2. dogwatch

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    We got Trengove in which almost balances out Crameri. Doesn't account for Murphy and Boyd though.
    My guess is that (a) other clubs have refreshed with youngsters at least as aggressively as us (the list is average age ranking, not average age) and (b) we were already close to the bottom so it was going to be hard to get much lower, especially when those lower clubs have also lost ageing players.
     
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    Could you post the average ages and average games played? Would be worth a look if available.
     
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    nutshell !!

    other teams have also lost their older players - eg. Priddis, Mitchell, Hodge, Gibson, Swallow, Maric, etc.
     
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  5. ivan rassmussen

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    Average meat pie consumption per VFL/AFL game by ivan rassmussen
    Early-mid 70s: 0
    Late 70s: 1-2
    80s: 1-3
    90s: 1-2
    00s: 0-1
    10s: 0

    Does anyone have stats for meat pie consumption at VFL/AFL games in the previous 45-50 years? I know my downward trend is related to attending with kids and associated costs, etc, but I'm curious to know what the trends are. I still enjoy a pie btw, probably only manage 1-2 per season these days.
    I estimate I've attended around 5-600 games in my life (h&a, finals, pre-season, night series, practice matches). I reckon my best effort was 4 pies vs West Coast R22 1988 at Western Oval. That is probably one of only 4-5 games I have ever consumed alcohol at as well, standing with non-Dogs mates behind the Barkly St goals (something I rarely did), and got interviewed by a young female reporter from the local paper as Eagles goals kept soaring over my head. Only game I ever went home p1ssed from, but the beers and pies didn't even touch the sides...

    Tbh, I'm not even sure why I just posted that...!
     
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  6. giblj

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    2018 List Demographics

    Average age (change from 2017):
    1. Adelaide - 24.6 years (+0.6 years)
    2. Hawthorn - 24.6 (-0.1)
    3. Geelong - 24.4 (+0.5)
    4. Collingwood - 24.4 (+0.5)
    5. GWS - 24.3 (-0.2)
    6. Port Adelaide - 24.2 (+0.3)
    7. Essendon - 24.1 (-0.3)
    8. Sydney - 24.0 (+0.3)
    9. Melbourne - 24.0 (+0.1)
    10. Fremantle - 23.9 (-0.5)
    11. Richmond - 23.9 (-0.1)
    12. West Coast - 23.9 (-0.9)
    13. Carlton - 23.8 (-0.1)
    14. Bulldogs - 23.8 (=)
    15. St. Kilda - 23.6 (-0.3)
    16. North Melbourne - 23.5 (-0.2)
    17. Brisbane - 23.5 (+0.7)
    18. Gold Coast - 23.1 (-0.7)

    Average games (change from 2017)
    1. Hawthorn - 74.1 games (-3.1 games)
    2. Port Adelaide - 72.5 (+10.3)
    3. Collingwood - 69.9 (+6.2)
    4. Adelaide - 67.9 (+10.5)
    5. Sydney - 65.6 (+7.8)
    6. Geelong - 65.4 (+5.5)
    7. West Coast - 63.9 (-17.1)
    8. GWS - 63.9 (-8.6)
    9. Fremantle - 63.2 (-4.1)
    10. Richmond - 61.7 (-0.8)
    11. Essendon - 57.6 (-9.8)
    12. Melbourne - 56.5 (-0.6)
    13. Bulldogs - 56.4 (-5.9)
    14. Carlton - 56.4 (+4.5)
    15. Brisbane - 55.2 (+14.5)
    16. Gold Coast - 53.5 (-4.9)
    17. St. Kilda - 52.6 (-7.9)
    18. North Melbourne - 51.8 (-7.0)

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  7. Fossie 32

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    Similar to my coke and chocolate consumption on the way to and from games......
     
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    I have this delightful mental image of Fossie doing a line of coke on the tram home after a game in the 1980s ... and all the other passengers pretending not to notice.
     
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    Thanks.
    Apart from the outlier (Gold Coast) those ages are pretty closely clustered around 24.0. It makes sense when you are looking at a full and balanced list of 44. I suspect we will see greater age (and perhaps game) separation when we look at the average age/games of the chosen 22 from each club in any given match. Especially as injuries start to affect who's available.
     
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    This characteristic rise and fall gives rise to the classic shape that statisticians like to call the pie curve ...

    upload_2017-11-29_22-19-24.png
     
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  11. Fossie 32

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    :D:D It wasn't a good decade to give up snorting Coke :p

    [​IMG]
     
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    Is that a pie chart?
     
  13. dogwatch

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    You could call it that.

    I reckon this is a pie chart (but I have no source)
    upload_2017-12-3_11-44-38.png
     
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  14. ivan rassmussen

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    Great work Fossie32 and dogwatch - pie charts, coke on the tram and Flying High! This thread is now far more interesting...
     
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  15. Fossie 32

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    [​IMG]
     
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    I have been trying to construct a list of who kicked the first goal in every final we have played. I was able to obtain most of this information from old Sporting Globe newspapers from the internet and Melbourne State Library. I have some gaps which hopefully a few others might know about so I can add them to the table later. I have seen some games from the 1980s onward on YouTube but still some gaps remain. I have used the great AFL Tables website for all finals from 2008 onward. I have been fortunate with The Sporting Globe's method of setting out a quarter by quarter analysis of all games which allowed me to go right up to 1976 before I had trouble finding some info. I have put the minute mark of the first quarter wherever it was mentioned.

    Brett Montgomery and Chris Grant feature three times whilst Harvey Stevens, Mitch Hahn and Liam Picken feature twice.

    seasongameopponentfirst goalkickerminute mark
    19381st semiCollingwoodCliff McRae
    19421st semiSouth MelbourneNorm Ware
    19441st semiEssendonRon Grove
    19461st semiMelbourneArthur Olliver
    19481st semiCollingwoodMerv Laffey
    19511st semiEssendonDave Bryden
    19531st semiEssendonAlan Trusler
    1953prelimGeelongHarvey Stevens
    19542nd semiGeelongBrian Gilmore
    1954grand finalMelbourneJack Collins
    19561st semiGeelongMax Cross15
    1956prelimCollingwoodHarvey Stevens17
    19611st semiSt. KildaMerv Hobbs2
    1961prelimMelbourneTed Whitten17
    1961grand finalHawthornJohn Quarrell4
    1974elimCollingwoodLaurie Sandilands
    1976elimGeelongKelvin Templeton14
    1985qualHawthorn
    19851st semiNorth MelbourneAllen Daniels7
    1985prelimHawthornJim Sewell40 secs
    1992qualGeelongBrian Royal
    19921st semiSt. KildaChris Grant27 secs
    1992prelimGeelongSteve Macpherson23
    19941st qualGeelongKym Koster19
    19941st semiMelbourneNigel Kellett13
    19953rd qualGeelongRichard Osborne14
    19972nd qualSydneyBrett Montgomery1
    19971st prelimAdelaideJames Cook
    19983rd qualWest CoastBrett Montgomery3
    19981st prelimAdelaide
    19991st qualWest Coast
    19992nd semiBrisbane LionsChris Grant24
    20002nd elimBrisbane Lions
    20061st elimCollingwoodBrett Montgomery
    20061st semiWest CoastChris Grant
    20082nd qualHawthornBrad Johnson11
    20082nd semiSydneyBob Murphy9
    20081st prelimGeelongShaun Higgins8
    20092nd qualGeelongBen Hudson1
    20092nd semiBrisbane LionsJason Akermanis7
    20091st prelimSt. KildaLiam Picken5
    20101st qualCollingwoodMitch Hahn4 (2nd Q)
    20101st semiSydneyBarry Hall8
    20102nd prelimSt. KildaMitch Hahn16
    20152nd elimAdelaideStewart Crameri1
    20162nd elimWest CoastLiam Picken12
    20162nd semiHawthornEaston Wood22
    20161st prelimG. W. S.Clay Smith5
    2016grand finalSydneyZaine Cordy19
     
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  17. JoshFunkley

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    Was just having a little play on the AFL website and was quite shocked to find out that we are currently #1 in the competition for disposal efficiency, marks inside 50 and total marks. Also, have had the least clangers in the comp.

    Just found it interesting how statistically we're actually going alright in most categories except for contested possessions and goalkicking accuracy.
     
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  18. Hard Ball Get

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    It's not all that surprising.

    Averaging 19 disposals over your first three games in 2018 would be similar to averaging 15 disposals over your first three games in 2000. It's a much different game than 20 years ago, and one of the major statistical changes are the higher amount of disposals per player, per game.
     
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    Then he would only be better than 15 out of that list :thumbsu:
     
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    Why is it surprising that a future Brownlow Medalist is better than 15 of the past 22 Brownlow Medalists?
     
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    Oh I see. Not at all surprising :D
     
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  24. giblj

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    With Bont announced as being available for the weekend, it looks like we'll have three players in as many weeks playing their 100th game while also captaining the side. Surely that's never happened before.
     
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    I have never been very good at music but here I am blowing my own trumpet. I have just created a quiz on the Sporcle website in which you have to name as many Footscray/Western Bulldogs players as you can who have kicked a goal for us in a finals game. There is 153 names in total and all names are listed alphabetically. There will be some names you will know straight away without having to read about their playing career. Anyway, if you fancy yourself with Bulldogs player history, you might feel it worthwhile having a go. I hope 12 minutes is long enough. In case you have never played any Sporcle quizzes before, you only need to type in a surname.

    https://www.sporcle.com/games/worbod/footscraywestern-bulldogs-finals-goal-kickers
     
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