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Who do you expect to be at Essendon in 2017?


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I think the 'right thing' for a convicted drug cheat is for it to be stripped, as sad as that would be for Jobe. Once the CAS appeal is turned down I can't see how the AFL could let him keep it.
Read through the AFL Rules - States suspended by an AFL Tribunal - CAS is not an AFL Tribunal.
 

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According to the WADA code, all awards and medals from that period of time must be revoked. The actual implementation of the code is with the AFL, but unless by some miracle the appeal somehow succeeds, I'd assume they'll be asking him to give it back. He doesn't seem like the type of person to deliberately flout the rules, regardless of the irony some might perceive in that - if they say he has to give it back, he'll give it back. I don't think whether he plays next year depends on whether he has a brownlow.

We're better to assume he'll lose it and be happily wrong, than to assume he'll keep it and go into full meltdown if it does happen.
 

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According to the WADA code, all awards and medals from that period of time must be revoked. The actual implementation of the code is with the AFL, but unless by some miracle the appeal somehow succeeds, I'd assume they'll be asking him to give it back. He doesn't seem like the type of person to deliberately flout the rules, regardless of the irony some might perceive in that - if they say he has to give it back, he'll give it back. I don't think whether he plays next year depends on whether he has a brownlow.

We're better to assume he'll lose it and be happily wrong, than to assume he'll keep it and go into full meltdown if it does happen.
Read the AFL rules Fly, it's there in black and white [/irony]
 

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In my opinion, it is most likely a matter of motivation as to whether he will play next year.
Jobe has always been a passionate and committed player, who puts his heart and soul into his preparation and his training, not just his game day effort.
If he can feel the same motivation to play that he has in the past, he will play.
But if he is bitter and twisted, not necessarily at the club itself, but at the football world, the commentators and opposition supporters, who booed and are likely to continue to boo him, the AFL/ASADA/WADA/CAS for the injustice of it all, I don't think he will want to play through it.
It is purely a question of whether it all has wrecked his motivation.
And I can say that, if I put myself in his shoes, I would not have the same feeling. Sure, there would be love of his teammates and the club (despite its failings), love of the game itself, pride in his ability and his achievements, and a desire to put it all right, if he could.
But I don't think it would be enough to put the bitterness behind him.
I don't think he will play on with that mindset, and he probably shouldn't, much as I would love him to.
 

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With Jobe though wouldn't he just want to have a year or two of playing footy without all the crap that he's had to play through the last 4 years? A better way to finish your career. I think that's why he may come back.
 
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According to the WADA code, all awards and medals from that period of time must be revoked. The actual implementation of the code is with the AFL, but unless by some miracle the appeal somehow succeeds, I'd assume they'll be asking him to give it back. He doesn't seem like the type of person to deliberately flout the rules, regardless of the irony some might perceive in that - if they say he has to give it back, he'll give it back. I don't think whether he plays next year depends on whether he has a brownlow.

We're better to assume he'll lose it and be happily wrong, than to assume he'll keep it and go into full meltdown if it does happen.
If he hands the Brownlow back then so be it but is doesn't mean we have to like it.
 
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With Jobe though wouldn't he just want to have a year or two of playing footy without all the crap that he's had to play through the last 4 years? A better way to finish your career. I think that's why he may come back.

Will the crap be over though? If he has to hand the Brownlow back, that's going to be a huge story & if the nuffie brigade decide to boo him Goodes style, how much of that do you think he would take before telling all & sundry to gagf? Unfortunately for Jobe he is the face of this as far as the players go. I think most opp fans would be ok with him coming back but there will probably be a loud enough percentage that could make life hell.

Hope I am wrong & he comes back for a good couple of years at least, deserves that more than anyone.
 

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Anyone had a read of the hurley article on the HUN? probably more nonsense
What is the point of Ralph's article? Everyone knows he could leave if he wants to prove breach of contract and leave as a DFA. Nothing has changed with this and this article had no new developments. Deadset ****wit Ralphy.
 
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What is the point of Ralph's article? Everyone knows he could leave if he wants to prove breach of contract and leave as a DFA. Nothing has changed with this and this article had no new developments. Deadset ****wit Ralphy.
Boring weekend - had to come up with something to write about!
 

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Wouldn't be surprised if it's at the G, either.
They will see $$$$$$$ everywhere.

If it happens and it is one of the big clubs, I will make the call now, there'd be 85,000 on a Saturday arvo or night.

Wouldn't it be funny if they play Good Friday footy and don't give it to norf.
 

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Anyone had a read of the hurley article on the HUN? probably more nonsense
Aside from the article being a complete load of nothing, nuffies of the clubs mentioned are taking it that he actually wants to walk out. All it states is if he walked out as a FA we wouldn't get anything. That doesn't mean he wants to leave nor that a trade wouldn't be pursued if he did want out.

At the moment we're still front runners. Last time Ralphy came out with an article like this it was about Hooker and he signed back on later that week. The guy has absolutely no idea.
 
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