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What a load of utter twaddle....I see you've swallowed all the media lies hook line & sinker, as a means to try & justify all this war....And still desperately holding on to the Russian hacking angle for all it's worth too.....Jeeeeezus.:rolleyes:

Guess what Ratts....It was all predicated upon a lie to begin with....Or don't you remember WMD?....Do I need to post General Wesley Clark's revelations yet one more time?....Even the pan-handling MSM admit to that one.....So where are the war crime trials for Bush, Blair & Howard?....The evidence for the complete obliteration of accountability & Democratic principles lies all around the Middle East & North Africa, & yet you choose to ignore it all, in hiding behind your pathetic, hoodwinked parochialism.....And Why?....Because you allow the mocking-bird MSM to do your thinking for you....That's why.

You go off hither & tither, all the while avoiding the obvious elephant in the room: These countries had nothing to do with 9/11 or terrorism. They are merely enemies of Israel & U.S imperialism due to their secularism in utilizing the oil for the betterment of their own people; & possibly growing stronger by it.

In sum; Your post is irrelevant deflection & rationalization attempting to legitimize mass-destruction, mass-murder & mass geo-political destabilization.....And all because our Aussie defense forces happened to be involved as well.

I've got news for you Ratts....Defense forces & the military are in the business of conflict....Intellectual giants they are not....They are not there to question the morality or not of what they do....They merely follow & obey orders, like the good little wind-up-toys that they are.

The beauty of Syria is that it has once & for all exposed the U.S govt & it's imperialist war-machine, for the war-mongering NAZI psychopaths they truly are....And this includes their NATO, Saudi & Israeli co-horts & their sundry intel agencies who are arming, training & funding all this chaos, by setting these Wahhabi fundies loose in order to do their dirty work for them....In effect, hiding behind proxys, duplicity, obfuscation, ambiguity & equivocation....An implicit admission of guilt in & of itself.

The dishonesty, lies & manufactured consent behind all these illegal invasions, wars & mass murder; Merely exposes the imperialist U.S war machine for the true evil that it is....It's build-up all around the globe, at the cost of it's own country's standards of living, is directly parallel in scale & reminiscent of the build-up of the NAZI war-machine.....And you can't even see it because you are so blinded by your silly flag, constantly waving in your face.
It took you 24 hours to come up with a repeat of your normal trick: Whataboutism and conflation? You use the stupidity of the Iraq War, which the MSM was well across from before it even happened, and then vomit a bunch of words to pretend that justifies all the sh*t you speak. Pls stick to your older statement:
End of Goddamn rant.
 

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It took you 24 hours to come up with a repeat of your normal trick: Whataboutism and conflation? You use the stupidity of the Iraq War, which the MSM was well across from before it even happened, and then vomit a bunch of words to pretend that justifies all the sh*t you speak. Pls stick to your older statement:
The msm may have questioned it a little but when it actually happened they were all across it in a way like it was the sports event of the decade, don't you remember the around the clock coverage for the first weeks,? I'm pretty sure the "shock and awe" was meant as much for the western viewers as the Iraqi forces. Msm coverage was enabling this effect.
 
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It took you 24 hours to come up with a repeat of your normal trick: Whataboutism and conflation? You use the stupidity of the Iraq War, which the MSM was well across from before it even happened, and then vomit a bunch of words to pretend that justifies all the sh*t you speak. Pls stick to your older statement:

Nice to see you still haven't the first clue about the truth in Syria, but are firmly entrenched in retaining your ignorance over it, in spite of all the evidence to the contrary.

So for the record:

Ratts is/Has been:

1. Wrong about Assange/ Seth Rich
2. Wrong about Russian Hacks/ Trump's collusion with em.
3. Wrong about Syria & most things concerning the Middle East

And why?.....Because he is fully invested in buying into the BS that's fed to him via the mocking-bird Western MSM.....And still sees them as a reliable source of trustworthy & independent journalism.....Oh my.

Face it Ratts....The MSM has lost all credibility or any claim to authority status whatsoever, when it comes to reporting geo-politics.

Stirling record there, what!
 
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The msm may have questioned it a little but when it actually happened they were all across it in a way like it was the sports event of the decade, don't you remember the around the clock coverage for the first weeks,? I'm pretty sure the "shock and awe" was meant as much for the western viewers as the Iraqi forces. Msm coverage was enabling this effect.
You expected the media not to cover the war? They weren't across it 'a little bit', the doubts about WMDs was massive and widely covered, there were protests around the world. The idea that everyone was asleep at the wheel and believed WMDs wholeheartedly is a P35 myth.
Nice to see you still haven't the first clue about the truth in Syria, but are firmly entrenched in retaining your ignorance over it, in spite of all the evidence to the contrary.

So for the record:

Ratts is/Has been:

1. Wrong about Assange/ Seth Rich
2. Wrong about Russian Hacks/ Trump's collusion with em.
3. Wrong about Syria & most things concerning the Middle East

And why?.....Because he is fully invested in buying into the BS that's fed to him via the mocking-bird Western MSM.....And still sees them as a reliable source of trustworthy & independent journalism.....Oh my.

Face it Ratts....The MSM has lost all credibility or any claim to authority status whatsoever, when it comes to reporting geo-politics.

Stirling record there, what!
Seth Rich; LOL. Evidence or you're just peddling a possibility.
 

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Nice to see you still haven't the first clue about the truth in Syria, but are firmly entrenched in retaining your ignorance over it, in spite of all the evidence to the contrary.

So for the record:

Ratts is/Has been:

1. Wrong about Assange/ Seth Rich
2. Wrong about Russian Hacks/ Trump's collusion with em.
3. Wrong about Syria & most things concerning the Middle East

And why?.....Because he is fully invested in buying into the BS that's fed to him via the mocking-bird Western MSM.....And still sees them as a reliable source of trustworthy & independent journalism.....Oh my.

Face it Ratts....The MSM has lost all credibility or any claim to authority status whatsoever, when it comes to reporting geo-politics.

Stirling record there, what!
Gee, we are witnessing your death rattle here, aren't we? You've chucked out your previous attempt at deflection, and are now claiming you're talking about "truth in Syria". Then you write down a grocery list of the things you've been proven wrong on throughout these pages, and think it's clever to instead, OMG, say I'm wrong on them. Gneius.

And how are you going with that internet conspiracy that Wikileaks was so sh*thouse you could tell the speed of file transfer through their site? Did you decide if you were going to pretend Assange was right, or the Seth Rich conspiracy was right? It must be really annoying for you and your Alt-Right/Russian buds that they have been snookered like this and can't claim both claims are right. Surely RT and Putin have given you some signal so far? Oh, that's right. RT were the ones saying that new fella may have been the leaker, and not Seth Rich. You can't trust them either! You are up sh*t creek.
 
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Gee, we are witnessing your death rattle here, aren't we? You've chucked out your previous attempt at deflection, and are now claiming you're talking about "truth in Syria". Then you write down a grocery list of the things you've been proven wrong on throughout these pages, and think it's clever to instead, OMG, say I'm wrong on them. Gneius.

And how are you going with that internet conspiracy that Wikileaks was so sh*thouse you could tell the speed of file transfer through their site? Did you decide if you were going to pretend Assange was right, or the Seth Rich conspiracy was right? It must be really annoying for you and your Alt-Right/Russian buds that they have been snookered like this and can't claim both claims are right. Surely RT and Putin have given you some signal so far? Oh, that's right. RT were the ones saying that new fella may have been the leaker, and not Seth Rich. You can't trust them either! You are up sh*t creek.

LOL....Best you've got eh?

As the wimpy alt right boys would have it: Low Energy indeed.

Poor Ratts....The world has turned upside down & all Topsy-Turvey & he's just not coping terribly well at all....Let me know if & when you find your moral compass again, buried in the sand trail left behind you, along with all half-decent & humane Western foreign policy.

It can't be easy attempting to defend the real axis of evil empires.....Chin up there, what!
 

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Gee, we are witnessing your death rattle here, aren't we? You've chucked out your previous attempt at deflection, and are now claiming you're talking about "truth in Syria". Then you write down a grocery list of the things you've been proven wrong on throughout these pages, and think it's clever to instead, OMG, say I'm wrong on them. Gneius.

And how are you going with that internet conspiracy that Wikileaks was so sh*thouse you could tell the speed of file transfer through their site? Did you decide if you were going to pretend Assange was right, or the Seth Rich conspiracy was right? It must be really annoying for you and your Alt-Right/Russian buds that they have been snookered like this and can't claim both claims are right. Surely RT and Putin have given you some signal so far? Oh, that's right. RT were the ones saying that new fella may have been the leaker, and not Seth Rich. You can't trust them either! You are up sh*t creek.

hang on...

russians are the nazis now?

you sound like cnn fam
 
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Easy to see why Israel & the Yanks so desperately want rid of him.....This bloke is a class above Qaddafi & Saddam....Not once did he take this interviewers bait.

Little wonder how he has survived all this nonsense & why all his people stand united as one behind him.
 

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Israeli media has reached the new moral low of openly begging the United States to prepare for war in Syria even if it means coming into direct confrontation with major Syrian allies like Russia and Iran.

In a recent article titled “Why Israel needs to Prepare America for the Upcoming War in Syria,” Jerusalem Post writer Eric R. Mandel (an American Zionist) proposes that the US government and people must be made war-willing partners of Israel in the event of any future attack by the Israeli Defense Forces against Syrian, Russian and/ or Iranian military targets.

The article by Mandel is an outstanding example of how Israeli pro-war interest groups – speaking through right-wing Zionists in top American military and foreign policy circles – try to entice the US government and population into participating in wars that only benefit the hegemonic ambitions of Israel’s deep state.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/israeli-media-begs-us-prepare-war-syria-russia-iran/
 
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Israeli media has reached the new moral low of openly begging the United States to prepare for war in Syria even if it means coming into direct confrontation with major Syrian allies like Russia and Iran.

In a recent article titled “Why Israel needs to Prepare America for the Upcoming War in Syria,” Jerusalem Post writer Eric R. Mandel (an American Zionist) proposes that the US government and people must be made war-willing partners of Israel in the event of any future attack by the Israeli Defense Forces against Syrian, Russian and/ or Iranian military targets.

The article by Mandel is an outstanding example of how Israeli pro-war interest groups – speaking through right-wing Zionists in top American military and foreign policy circles – try to entice the US government and population into participating in wars that only benefit the hegemonic ambitions of Israel’s deep state.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/israeli-media-begs-us-prepare-war-syria-russia-iran/

You mean they haven't done enough damage already?

The inhuman & abstracted power/paranoiac trope of these self-seeking neo-cons, has to be seen to be believed.

Israel has 300 nukes, while none of it's neighbors have any....And there is no independent moral authority left in the world today, that hasn't been bought & sold out.....To SCREAM enough is enough already!

Thank * for the Russians & China is all I'll say.....R.T has been a master-stroke & a God-send against these inhuman scum....It gives all the independent, Western non-conformists & dissenters a voice, where they otherwise wouldn't have one left....Pilger being a prime example.

A big * you to these Likud party, racist, NAZI, Terrorist, inhuman scum.
 

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Israeli media has reached the new moral low of openly begging the United States to prepare for war in Syria even if it means coming into direct confrontation with major Syrian allies like Russia and Iran.

In a recent article titled “Why Israel needs to Prepare America for the Upcoming War in Syria,” Jerusalem Post writer Eric R. Mandel (an American Zionist) proposes that the US government and people must be made war-willing partners of Israel in the event of any future attack by the Israeli Defense Forces against Syrian, Russian and/ or Iranian military targets.

The article by Mandel is an outstanding example of how Israeli pro-war interest groups – speaking through right-wing Zionists in top American military and foreign policy circles – try to entice the US government and population into participating in wars that only benefit the hegemonic ambitions of Israel’s deep state.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/israeli-media-begs-us-prepare-war-syria-russia-iran/
Interesting eh, I posted that a week ago in this thread.
 

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Interesting eh, I posted that a week ago in this thread.
And it's a stupid article. Unlike the one you claim is Soros-linked. That one details things we already know - the US is involved in Syria. No conspiracy. Also things reported in the MSM people like Procrastinator like to pretend is a great evil. The other article from the propaganda outfit says a bunch of dumb things, not least of which is pretending that there is something new in Israel wanting US backing. A "new low". Any proper conspiratorial nufty online will tell you that Israel has thousands of things that are a far bigger low than that. And non-conspiratorial people can probably think of hundreds. What a stupid, stupid article. Yet two of you felt the need to post it? Any insight you can give us into thinking it was worthwhile posting? I'd be genuinely interested in where you saw it and/or why you thought it was saying something special?

I'd also be interested in hearing what you think the point of the article is? Beyond maintaining the conspiratorial tone that Russia has been having a lot of success with online, it appears to be that they are trying to rewrite history by trying to re-frame the "axis of evil" into an actual cooperative group. Bush named them as the three main threats to the US, due to them developing weapons of mass destruction. The point of the speech wasn't to suggest they were in cahoots as that article pretends.

It's on Youtube,
if you want to check it out for yourself (I know how gullible people like videos more than words). And before the usual suspect comes in with lies about what the speech was: No, lots of people in the media and outside the media saw this as the obvious propaganda and fear-mongering it was. The same people who saw Trump as a giant liar too. Bush looks a lot better than Trump, of course, but his administration still did a lot of bad things and were constantly called on it, but voters were still attracted to the Republican right-wing rhetoric. It was the US failure in Iraq that got the Republicans voted out. A lot of right-wing Americans don't like thinking their country isn't the best. Hence: MAGA.
 
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And it's a stupid article. Unlike the one you claim is Soros-linked. That one details things we already know - the US is involved in Syria. No conspiracy. Also things reported in the MSM people like Procrastinator like to pretend is a great evil. The other article from the propaganda outfit says a bunch of dumb things, not least of which is pretending that there is something new in Israel wanting US backing. A "new low". Any proper conspiratorial nufty online will tell you that Israel has thousands of things that are a far bigger low than that. And non-conspiratorial people can probably think of hundreds. What a stupid, stupid article. Yet two of you felt the need to post it? Any insight you can give us into thinking it was worthwhile posting? I'd be genuinely interested in where you saw it and/or why you thought it was saying something special?

I'd also be interested in hearing what you think the point of the article is? Beyond maintaining the conspiratorial tone that Russia has been having a lot of success with online, it appears to be that they are trying to rewrite history by trying to re-frame the "axis of evil" into an actual cooperative group. Bush named them as the three main threats to the US, due to them developing weapons of mass destruction. The point of the speech wasn't to suggest they were in cahoots as that article pretends.

It's on Youtube,
if you want to check it out for yourself (I know how gullible people like videos more than words). And before the usual suspect comes in with lies about what the speech was: No, lots of people in the media and outside the media saw this as the obvious propaganda and fear-mongering it was. The same people who saw Trump as a giant liar too. Bush looks a lot better than Trump, of course, but his administration still did a lot of bad things and were constantly called on it, but voters were still attracted to the Republican right-wing rhetoric. It was the US failure in Iraq that got the Republicans voted out. A lot of right-wing Americans don't like thinking their country isn't the best. Hence: MAGA.

It's foreshadowing for a potential war with Iran. Wait and see. Israel's ideal result was Assad being deposed. Didn't happen. The next best thing was the civil war extending indefinitely- now it looks like Assad will win. If he does regain control (& in doing so becomes an Iranian proxy) Israel won't accept Iran having a land bridge to the Mediterranean sea, & effectively being on the Israeli border via their Syrian & Lebanese proxies. Watch this space.
 
It's foreshadowing for a potential war with Iran. Wait and see. Israel's ideal result was Assad being deposed. Didn't happen. The next best thing was the civil war extending indefinitely- now it looks like Assad will win. If he does regain control (& in doing so becomes an Iranian proxy) Israel won't accept Iran having a land bridge to the Mediterranean sea, & effectively being on the Israeli border via their Syrian & Lebanese proxies. Watch this space.

Whatever happens in Syria will be decided by Putin

His navy base is too important to lose
 
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783"]Whatever happens in Syria will be decided by Putin

His navy base is too important to lose[/QUOTE]

Yeah....I'm pretty sure that's already happened....Much to Israel's great chagrin.

There's also the little matter of a Sunni oil pipe-line, feeding directly into Eastern Europe, cutting into Russia's profits.
 

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Two Russian submarines, the Velikiy Novgorod and Kolpino, have fired seven Kalibr cruise missiles on ISIS targets east of the Syrian city of Deir Ezzor, the Russian Defense Ministry said on Thursday.

The cruise missiles were fired from submerged position in the Mediterranean Sea and hit targets located some 500-650 kilometers away.

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Interesting eh, I posted that a week ago in this thread.

my bad
 

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It's foreshadowing for a potential war with Iran. Wait and see. Israel's ideal result was Assad being deposed. Didn't happen. The next best thing was the civil war extending indefinitely- now it looks like Assad will win. If he does regain control (& in doing so becomes an Iranian proxy) Israel won't accept Iran having a land bridge to the Mediterranean sea, & effectively being on the Israeli border via their Syrian & Lebanese proxies. Watch this space.
I'll "watch this space" and "wait and see" once you can explain how they can be done about a "potential war"? If nothing happens, it's still "potential", right?

But I already "watch this space" and "wait and see" on all these BS claims. Year after year nothing happens. We're still waiting for the global economy to implode since dufuses online called it in 09/10 and every month since. Predictions about Iran 'being next' have been made since a lot earlier. This thread (EDIT: from around here, it's been merged with an older thread) was a claim that the US had committed a false flag operation to justify enforcing regime change. "Wait and see".

'Israel doesn't like Iran' isn't new news and writing an article about it is obviously not a "new low". The article is propaganda.

Maybe you can "watch this space" for cannot and aware's explanation for why they thought it was such a pertinent article; or an explanation about why it was suddenly both on their radar? I'm assuming an echo chamber has been bouncing it around lately, pretending it's meaningful, and that's the only explanation for it being posted by them.
 
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More empty apologetics from Ratts.:rolleyes:.....Israel is still hitting Damascus on a weekly basis with it's rockets dude....And what the U.S - in combination with ISIL on the ground - is doing to Raqqa, has to be seen to be believed, by way of humanitarian violations, with mass civilian casualties....All they are interested in doing is in destroying that town on behalf of Israel.....Much like they are doing to Mosul over the border.

Cease attempting to defend the inhumane monsters that is the true axis of evil: U.S/Israel/NATO.....Including the proxy's in the Saudi's & assorted terrorist groups they attempt to hide behind, in doing their dirty work for them.

You really do need to expand your viewing platform from beyond the pax Americana spoon-fed, mocking-bird MSM dude.....It's getting tiresome.
 

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And it's a stupid article. Unlike the one you claim is Soros-linked. That one details things we already know - the US is involved in Syria. No conspiracy. Also things reported in the MSM people like Procrastinator like to pretend is a great evil. The other article from the propaganda outfit says a bunch of dumb things, not least of which is pretending that there is something new in Israel wanting US backing. A "new low". Any proper conspiratorial nufty online will tell you that Israel has thousands of things that are a far bigger low than that. And non-conspiratorial people can probably think of hundreds. What a stupid, stupid article. Yet two of you felt the need to post it? Any insight you can give us into thinking it was worthwhile posting? I'd be genuinely interested in where you saw it and/or why you thought it was saying something special?

I'd also be interested in hearing what you think the point of the article is? Beyond maintaining the conspiratorial tone that Russia has been having a lot of success with online, it appears to be that they are trying to rewrite history by trying to re-frame the "axis of evil" into an actual cooperative group. Bush named them as the three main threats to the US, due to them developing weapons of mass destruction. The point of the speech wasn't to suggest they were in cahoots as that article pretends.

It's on Youtube,
if you want to check it out for yourself (I know how gullible people like videos more than words). And before the usual suspect comes in with lies about what the speech was: No, lots of people in the media and outside the media saw this as the obvious propaganda and fear-mongering it was. The same people who saw Trump as a giant liar too. Bush looks a lot better than Trump, of course, but his administration still did a lot of bad things and were constantly called on it, but voters were still attracted to the Republican right-wing rhetoric. It was the US failure in Iraq that got the Republicans voted out. A lot of right-wing Americans don't like thinking their country isn't the best. Hence: MAGA.
Hey I didn't post the article about the article, I posted the actual Warhawk Jew article. Make you own mind up about it.
 

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Hey I didn't post the article about the article, I posted the actual Warhawk Jew article. Make you own mind up about it.
Anyhow the very fact that politically interested Australians are beginning to frequent Syrian (and Russian) media says a lot about the level of the strategic failure of the Syrian adventure.
 

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Anyhow the very fact that politically interested Australians are beginning to frequent Syrian (and Russian) media says a lot about the level of the strategic failure of the Syrian adventure.
No, it doesn't. It says a lot about how good Russia is at the internet.

Your so-called "strategic failure" would no doubt have to include Obama's 'red line'. A long time ago, and bugger all people interested in Syria back then or even in most of the time since. The difference now is the online army unleashed to back Trump and undermine democratic values.
 
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The Ruskies have done brilliantly in lifting the veil on the true evil that is the Western terrorist network in the Middle East....They have single-handedly lifted the level of dialogue beyond pure rhetorical, Orwellian double-speak propaganda, while simultaneously getting right up the noses of Israel & the Western mocking-bird MSM.

HEHEHE......I dips me lid to you VLAD.....Stirling job on behalf of humanity there Puty.
 
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I'll "watch this space" and "wait and see" once you can explain how they can be done about a "potential war"? If nothing happens, it's still "potential", right?

But I already "watch this space" and "wait and see" on all these BS claims. Year after year nothing happens. We're still waiting for the global economy to implode since dufuses online called it in 09/10 and every month since. Predictions about Iran 'being next' have been made since a lot earlier. This thread (EDIT: from around here, it's been merged with an older thread) was a claim that the US had committed a false flag operation to justify enforcing regime change. "Wait and see".

'Israel doesn't like Iran' isn't new news and writing an article about it is obviously not a "new low". The article is propaganda.

Maybe you can "watch this space" for cannot and aware's explanation for why they thought it was such a pertinent article; or an explanation about why it was suddenly both on their radar? I'm assuming an echo chamber has been bouncing it around lately, pretending it's meaningful, and that's the only explanation for it being posted by them.

That kind of hyperbole wasn't in the original article posted by awaremind, which was an opinion piece giving an analysis of the war from the Israeli POV. And lol @ calling it propaganda, it was published by the Jerusalem Post ffs.

I haven't been saying there will be war with Iran for years, but I happen to think that *if* Assad regains control in the next 18 months, this will be the spark that causes them to push for it. No conspiracy, just my own armchair analysis based on how I understand the geopolitical reality.
 
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