The Syrian War

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BEIRUT, LEBANON (10:06 A.M.) – Turkey-led forces are claiming that Kurdish paramilitary groups in Syria’s Afrin region fired on them with chemical munitions delivered from artillery systems causing considerable casualties among their ranks.

According to the official media center for the Olive Branch operations room, Kurdish forces have attacked pro-Ankara rebel groups with at least one artillery shell loaded with chlorine gas.

Rebels say that the chemical attack took place at the town of Bulbul, located just kilometers from the Turkish border.

Emerging reports by opposition sources claim that 20 rebel fighters were injured, seven of them critically.

In recent days, pro-Ankara forces have suffered a series of tactical defeats around Bulbul, failing to break into mountain countryside further south and suffering notable losses in manpower and equipment for every assault.

It is worth noting that the Free Syrian Army and opposition groups often make baseless chemical gas attack claims every time they are losing a major battle somewhere in the country.


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I am surprised no one has the balls to say anything to Turkey. How long will they continue with their terrorism and treatment of Kurds.
They are so strategically located it seems like neither US or Russia wants to get them totally offside, Turkey however would want to be careful, because if either nation or even both decide to hit them it would have to be with full force and sudden because they are a fairly strong power still and would have some advantages.
 
They are so strategically located it seems like neither US or Russia wants to get them totally offside, Turkey however would want to be careful, because if either nation or even both decide to hit them it would have to be with full force and sudden because they are a fairly strong power still and would have some advantages.

yep turkey does have one of the strongest standing armies on the planet

they're also very much on the balance in terms of a nation that could progress with the rest of the world or fall into the abyss
 

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A long and overdue report regarding what happened on Feb 10, 2018 when the SyAAD engaged the Zionists; but we had to wait for a personal reason; and as always on this page, the blunt truth.

On 05:00 Feb 10, 2018 a formation of Zionist jets launched 16 Popeye Turbo ALCM (320km range) from Lebanese airspace toward Riyad Qayasa AFB (aka T4 AFB) which the SyAAD managed to detect and intercept the majority of. (we cannot disclose any more) after foiling their attack, SyAAD fired a single long range missile against the Zionist formation which after exploding the fragmented warhead hit a Zionist F-15 damaging it.

When the Zionist's raid was foiled, a second Zionist formation took off to reattempt an attack on the SyAAF base; at 0600 few minutes after taking off, a Syrian S-200VE missile scored a direct hit against an enemy F-16I over the occupied Golan Heights and we all saw the aftermath. (The jet was downed while fully armed contradicting the Zionists' media story that it was shot down after it "successfully" raided the Syrian airbase)

When their F-16I was shot down, the Zionist air force was put on full alert and attempted what is known as SEAD or "Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses" like they did back in 1982 in Southern Lebanon.

The first batch of long-range and anti-radiation missiles fired by the Zionists were completely shot down and non of it made it to its targets. They were hit with that surprise and for the first time in their history they Zionists attempted to overwhelm the Syrian Air Defenses by firing projectiles from outside of Syrian Airspace but most were without a specific target; and mainly to overwhelm the air defenses so that the projectiles and anti-radiation missiles might have a chance in hitting their attempted targets.

SyAAD also fired a short/medium range missile and destroyed an AH-64 Apache helicopter, while another one was damaged. The enemy claimed one of their choppers was out of services due to a mechanical error

After their miserable failure to hit anything significant, the enemy thinking that they had already overwhelmed the SyAAD, they sent an armed drone that entered the Syrian Airspace from the Lebanese airspace and was shot down over al-Zabadani

They only managed to hit a single air defenses guidance radar in the South, and a single launcher (we cannot specify but it was NOT an S-200 as they claimed)

An enemy F-15 formation attempted to target the Syrian Air Defenses from over Jordanian airspace, and again, an SyAAD S-200 scored a direct hit against another enemy F-15 near the Jordanian/Palestinian border line; parts of the missile and the F-15 were recovered in Jordan, but Zionist media and officials claimed that it belonged to the same F-16 that was downed in Occupied Golan Heights (So basically they are saying a jet that was hit with a 217kg warhead was still able to fly North where there are not airbases to land after being hit; this lie might work on civilians but not on us)

Syrian Air Defenses imposed what is known as A2/AD or Anti-Access/Area Denial that extended from Northern Damascus all the way over Southern Syria, Southern Lebanon, Northwestern Jordan and Northern Palestine; in which not a single enemy fighter was able to move freely and the enemy was going crazy trying to hit the Syrian Air Defenses batteries and failed. And you all saw SyAAD missiles and missile boosters over Lebanon and Jordan.

To give you an example of how the enemy lie regarding whether they hit their target or not; they claimed they hit all of their targets but wasn't it few weeks ago when the Zionists claimed they have destroyed the S-200 regiment that fired a missile at one of their F-16s in Lebanon and we told you back then their claims are baseless and there was minor material damage?! Well evidently, the same battery they claimed they destroyed shot down one of their jets just few weeks after.

Finally, the Syrian Air Defenses put down the enemies "long hand" and showed the enemy again that just because Syrian command chooses not to move in certain occasions, it does not mean SyAAD is not capable of reacting; never mistake patience with weakness, and choice with inability. And we`ve always said that on this page way back since 2013.

This is what happened to the best of our ability to share in terms of details. Those who follow us know very well that we never share anything we are not sure of, and we never sell dreams nor sugarcoat events. Another post is coming regarding the aftermath and our personal thoughts.

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Notice the pro -rebel propaganda onslaught as eastern ghouta is libertaried?. They fire mortars daily into Damascus with 9 million people, and this is never mentioned, and when the SAA has attacked in the past they have been ambushed by massive tunnel bombs that killed thousands of soldiers there over the last 7 years. Another ceasefire will only prolong the suffering for both sides. But the UN wrings hands and the media squeals. Did they care for the civilians of Mosul, where dead bodies still rot in the streets. It must suck to be trapped in ghouta but the rebels either must surrender and evacuate to idlib, let every civilian free, and fight, or die and be responsible for the civilians who die. The Syrian soldiers assaulting the place would have friends and family there, they are not there for fun. Fake news, like this, is why people agree with trump about fake news.
 
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Notice the pro -rebel propaganda onslaught as eastern ghouta is libertaried?. They fire mortars daily into Damascus with 9 million people, and this is never mentioned, and when the SAA has attacked in the past they have been ambushed by massive tunnel bombs that killed thousands of soldiers there over the last 7 years. Another ceasefire will only prolong the suffering for both sides. But the UN wrings hands and the media squeals. Did they care for the civilians of Mosul, where dead bodies still rot in the streets. It must suck to be trapped in ghouta but the rebels either must surrender and evacuate to idlib, let every civilian free, and fight, or die and be responsible for the civilians who die. The Syrian soldiers assaulting the place would have friends and family there, they are not there for fun. Fake news, like this, is why people agree with trump about fake news.

This is NOT to belittle the civillians trapped and suffering in the fighting, of which no doubt there are many, but I thought this pretty much summed up the propaganda I've been seeing;

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While I'm here - normally SBS news is my favourite news source on the telly. Their coverage of the Syrian conflict however, is woefully one-sided. Maybe it's simple 'under-dogism' where the heavily outgunned opposition forces might seem to garner media sympathy or maybe its simply choosing sides based on source (al-Jazeera, etc). By all means highlight the various humanitarian crises and cover the many ethnic viewpoints involved in this multi-national clusterf*ck.

But cover them all, not just them lot besieged in Ghouta.
 

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The terrorists in east ghouta are holding the civilians as hostages and human shields, no western government would accept a terrorist enclave within ten km of the capital city centre and it was they who broke the ceasefire by launching offensives on the SAA base on the border of this area. Western journalists won't go there for fear of head removal but happy to cry for them. They said they'd let civilians free in exchange for supplies, effectively admitted holding them as hostages.
 
Honest question - is there any feasible scenario that ends with Assad removed from power?

The US 'allies' there are either too close to IS for comfort or Kurds, which the Turks won't allow to seize power even regionally. There is no single unifying anti-Assad group that is likely to gain support from the bulk of other anti-Assad organisations.
The Russians are all in on Assad and are prepared to skirmish with Turkey to protect him.
Turkey ultimately don't hold the same power as the two superpowers and have less skin in the game as well if you ignore their Kurdish question.
Iran will back Assad to the hilt, as long as it stays out of the headlines.
Israel will hold out and support anti-Assad forces as long as they can but it doesn't appear to be a sustainable position given the shifting sands there and Russia's willingness for 'collateral damage' appears higher than that of the western interests.
 

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Honest question - is there any feasible scenario that ends with Assad removed from power?

The US 'allies' there are either too close to IS for comfort or Kurds, which the Turks won't allow to seize power even regionally. There is no single unifying anti-Assad group that is likely to gain support from the bulk of other anti-Assad organisations.
The Russians are all in on Assad and are prepared to skirmish with Turkey to protect him.
Turkey ultimately don't hold the same power as the two superpowers and have less skin in the game as well if you ignore their Kurdish question.
Iran will back Assad to the hilt, as long as it stays out of the headlines.
Israel will hold out and support anti-Assad forces as long as they can but it doesn't appear to be a sustainable position given the shifting sands there and Russia's willingness for 'collateral damage' appears higher than that of the western interests.
If you compare with Libya, who NATO powers bombed in support of same type of jihadists who are fighting in Syria, and one of whom was the Manchester concert killer, the really don't care all that much what happens after they take out the target. Think " we came, we saw, he died". Libya is a failed state, and a major source of the refugee waves that are driving the EUs collapse, (think brexit). This is 8 years later and there's still no unity in that nation, and the candidates to take over are brutal warlords worse than Ghaddafi, plus Ghaddafi son who is probably the most moderate.

So the NATO powers would have not really cared, how ever it would have most likely been a continued, super brutal civil war pitting US backed Kurds against Turkish backed Islamist FSA, vs Saudi backed Isis with all Assad supporters either dead or fleeing to Europe.
Europe seems happy to shoot them selves in the foot to appease the US and Israel, and Syria could be used as a launching pad to invade Iran and Iraq for Islamist terrorists sponsored by the west.
This is much more likely in my opinion to have been the outcome of Syrian collapse than democracy rising from the ashes miraculously.
 

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While I'm here - normally SBS news is my favourite news source on the telly. Their coverage of the Syrian conflict however, is woefully one-sided. Maybe it's simple 'under-dogism' where the heavily outgunned opposition forces might seem to garner media sympathy or maybe its simply choosing sides based on source (al-Jazeera, etc). By all means highlight the various humanitarian crises and cover the many ethnic viewpoints involved in this multi-national clusterf*ck.

But cover them all, not just them lot besieged in Ghouta.

I'm glad someone else is on this too.

SBS news is verging onto freakin Al Qaeda FM with pictures.
 

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Honest question - is there any feasible scenario that ends with Assad removed from power?

The US 'allies' there are either too close to IS for comfort or Kurds, which the Turks won't allow to seize power even regionally. There is no single unifying anti-Assad group that is likely to gain support from the bulk of other anti-Assad organisations.
The Russians are all in on Assad and are prepared to skirmish with Turkey to protect him.
Turkey ultimately don't hold the same power as the two superpowers and have less skin in the game as well if you ignore their Kurdish question.
Iran will back Assad to the hilt, as long as it stays out of the headlines.
Israel will hold out and support anti-Assad forces as long as they can but it doesn't appear to be a sustainable position given the shifting sands there and Russia's willingness for 'collateral damage' appears higher than that of the western interests.

Putin trades him out as part of a grand bargain endgame.

I've said for a long time that a very likely outcome is Assad and Asma agree to retire to a dasha near Sochi as part of a deal that guarantees Alawite safety and supremacy. This will allow the remaining rebel factions that aren't full jihadist (just kind of turned jihadist in the heat of battle mainly to get funds and to keep the "real" jihadis from attacking them from the back) to NOT SURRENDER and in fact claim a bullshit win - Assad is gone! - and join the SAA in a reformed national army that then wipes out the foreign mujiahdeen jihadis and various strains of Al Qaeda in Iraq that became Nusra and Daesh etc. After doing that everyone takes a big breath and works out if the Kurds can come to their senses and accept federalism, which they will.

The footy version of that is basically what Demetriou proposed in the drug stuff - Hirdy walks to save the club.

It depends on how bunker-crazed Assad has gone. Putin's never going to tell him to pack his bags then shoot him on the road out the front of the palace.

But he would very happily see him go in order to finalise an end game that sees Russia keep its bases and cement its new role as Middle East hegemon that did what Amerika couldn't.
 
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