The traditional Big 4 Melbourne clubs - who's closer to a premiership

[Elixuh]

Richmond. And it’s not even close.

 

[M Malice]

O None of the above.

 

[beerbandit]

Carlton ………


















Nah, just kidding, they’ll never win another one

 

[Dirty Bird]

Collingwood

I can't see any winning in the next 2 seasons.
So virtue of them winning in 2023, Collingwood.

 

[Fambam84]

Could be the first time since 2005 that none of the 'big 4' play finals.

 

[Dirty Bird]

Collingwood

I can't see any winning in the next 2 seasons.
So virtue of them winning in 2023, Collingwood.

But if I have to answer who'll win next.

to be a premiership threat.
Richmond/Carlton I can see being a threat in 5-8 years. Richmond more likely, as Carlton would have to admit they ****ed up to start that rebuild. BUt because they have that keystone in Jagga, I think they get a little boost there. Assuming they admit they ****ed up and actually rebuild
Essendon COULD be a threat in 5-8 years, but they'd have to nail 2-3 draft picks/trades/free agents a year to get there. More realistically is 7-10
Collingwood haven't even hit the bottom yet. They're probably still 2-4 years from that, then the rebuild starts. So probably 10-15 years.

 

[Lunchtime]

Richmond. And it’s not even close.

Have you seen Richmond so far this season? They try but they are struggling.

 

[Elixuh]

Have you seen Richmond so far this season? They try but they are struggling.

Once your thirty year five year plan is complete you will reap the rewards.

 

[Lunchtime]

Once your thirty year five year plan is complete you will reap the rewards.

Sarcasm isn't needed mate.

 

[Dirty Bird]

On another note
Wern't Fitzroy and Melbourne traditionally in the big 4 instead of Richmond and Essendon?

 

[timokane]

I think while Fly is Pies coach they will win one more flag in these next 1 or 2 years

 

[PCORF]

Out of the 4 I only can see the Pies making the finals this year.

 

[iameviljez]

Who is closer to a flag out of Richmond, Carlton, Essendon and Collingwood the 4 traditional Melbourne-based clubs?

Only one of them is a big club. There's no big 4

To be fair, the delineation is irrelevant and has been for a very, very long time - since, really, 2006, which kicked off a long line of premiership sides built overwhelmingly through the draft.

I joined BigFooty... well, far too long ago (see left), and in the 2000s there used to be a lot of pissing contests on the main board (this was before Bay 13) about who was the Biggest Club, who would get to 17 flags first, blah blah blah. Increasingly, it began to look like dinosaurs having a dick-measuring competition while the plume of dust from the asteroid impact blooms in the background.

Come 2026, and Essendon, Carlton and Collingwood have all kept drinking their own bathwater with various coaching appointments, while all four clubs bar Collingwood have spent roughly 20 of the last 25 years absolutely nowhere. "Big" is irrelevant.

 

[BigVic]

I joined this site back in 2009 (when Channel 10 was still airing footy and Friday nights were delayed in Perth) which is a generation ago. Fast forward 17 years later and Richmond have won 3 premierships (as what Gale predicted in 2010) and we have won 2. Essendon also made a final for the first time this century without Sheedy that year but lost to Adelaide at Football Park by 96 pts in an elimination final

Meanwhile Carlton and Essendon have done nothing with Essendon not winning a final for almost 8,000 days and Carlton have added 2 spoons and going nowhere.

 

[spky1234]

Out of that lot its got to be Collingwood.
I have the Pies winning its next flag in 2028.
They just got to blood the next wave of kids another preseason draft and trade and right in the flag mix even as early as 2027.
All about list age profile and rebalance and they win the flag.
As with the others this is how i see it:
Next flag:
Richmond 2033
Carlton 2036
Essendon sometime in the 2040s

I think after Collingwoods 17th flag in as i said 2028 they will have a bit of a gap between its 17th and 18th flag.

Been on 16 flags as same as carlton and essendon in a way doesnt sit well with me but equal is better then been 1 behind.

But dont like sharing 16 with blues and bombers just feels not right.

But answer to this post its Collingwood wins its next flag

Tipping another interstate flag this year and maybe next year as well before it returns to a Melbourne club.

Collingwood winning a flag with the Daicos brothers and a bunch of non-pedigree youngsters who can't even get games over Lachie Sullivan, or the corpses of Sidebottom, Crisp etc.

These lot think they are going to rebuild a whole list magically. You need to actually take highly talented kids, and give them exposure.

Howe, Sidebottom, Pendlebury, Crisp, Elliot and Membrey will all likely be done by 2028, or at the very least offering little contribution.

Add to that McStay (dud), DC who the new ruck rules have heavily affected will be on their last legs.

De Goey and Darcy Moore in another 2 years who knows, shit De Goey is stiff not to be written off atm let alone in 2028.

Literally 10 players who are massive contributors now, when you are already sliding down the ladder who will need be either replaced wholly, or have others replace their top contributions whilst playing a less prominent role.

Allan and Parker dropped again. Not even giving the kids a chance to even be able to do that. Collingwoods drafting has been shocking for a decade, but you seem to think all these low pedigree juniors not getting games will replace the output of half of your premiership team by 2028 lol.