The Transfers Thread

[Kompany]

How does Barca pay for Hummels and Neymar?

And a new keeper?

Unicef

 

[pantskyle]

Unicef

I didn't think they got money from that. Isn't it a charity thing?

 

[pantskyle]

I wouldn't bother with Neymar for now tbh. He's not even sure what's gonna happen with him anyway - wether he leaves or not. Plus, I'd be happy to stick it out another year with Messi - Villa - Pedro combo for another year. But their defence is desperate for a Hummels type. Plus I don't see Hummels costing any more than low $30mil anyway possibly lower.
You can get a good replacement for Valdez for another $15mil. In my opinion, anything would be an improvement in terms of keepers.

Hummels won't be cheap at all. Could even be a defender record fee.

15mill is a lot for a keeper anyway as far as they go. Obviously it depends on who they want but I agree they will spend around the 15m mark.

There is too much talk with Neymar. They will 100% make a bid this coming window.

 

[LeoMessi]

Qatar Airways

 

[Kompany]

I didn't think they got money from that. Isn't it a charity thing?

Yeah was taking the piss there . I think they paid them about 10m per season.

I have no idea about this but for Neymar for example, I think it's all about business plans. It doesn't matter how much money Barcelona have right now, for them this is just an investment. If they believe they will make money out of him, they will want to invest the money today.

Neymar really seems to be the new Messi. Not for his talent, but for his fame and commercial value.

By the way, I believe close to all player transfers get funded by investors. Clubs never have that money ready from revenue to spend on players.

 

[Kompany]

Hummels won't be cheap at all. Could even be a defender record fee.

They have no choice though, that's the problem. If your ambition is to be one of the best clubs in Europe and you have no one good enough (I find most other clubs have at least a few CB's challenging for the 2 spots) then you are obliged to pay what the CB will cost you.

Hummels isn't cheap but Vertonghen or Kompany would be very expensive too. They already passed on Thiago Silva, presumably because he was too expensive as well.

 

[pantskyle]

Yeah was taking the piss there . I think they paid them about 10m per season.

I have no idea about this but for Neymar for example, I think it's all about business plans. It doesn't matter how much money Barcelona have right now, for them this is just an investment. If they believe they will make money out of him, they will want to invest the money today.

Neymar really seems to be the new Messi. Not for his talent, but for his fame and commercial value.

By the way, I believe close to all player transfers get funded by investors. Clubs never have that money ready from revenue to spend on players.

Use emoticons my friend. It makes it easier.

 

[pantskyle]

They have no choice though, that's the problem. If your ambition is to be one of the best clubs in Europe and you have no one good enough (I find most other clubs have at least a few CB's challenging for the 2 spots) then you are obliged to pay what the CB will cost you.

Hummels isn't cheap but Vertonghen or Kompany would be very expensive too. They already passed on Thiago Silva, presumably because he was too expensive as well.

Maybe United should just buy Dortmund and then we can take the players I really bloody want.

 

[NUFC Tiger]

With the new FFP rules salary rises are limited to £4m per club a season (around £50k a week for one player). I reckon Newcastle's increase will be pretty much accounted for with the January signings.

So the bulk of the £70m will go into the pockets of club owners instead of building the squad. I think it's going to be a big influence on the summer window to be honest. What we might see a lot of is bigger fees, but the selling club paying a big portion of wages.

There are some exemptions to the £4m rule. Commercial money and Europe TV money doesn't count so if you have increase in either of those you can put that toward an increased wage bill.

I wasn't aware of the 4m salary rise limit associated with the FFP however I think as a club we are still in a relatively healthy position following a return to the top 20 revenue generating clubs, a second successive profit and a growth in average attendances. While we were heavily involved in bringing player in during January, we also lost some big earners in Ba (reportedly was on 40-45k a week) and Xisco (mega flop courtesy of Dennis Wise).

Another important factor (and reason for our French focused transfers) is that while the players are of a high technical level, their relative wages are much more modest in Ligue 1 in comparison to what they can make in the UK - for example, Cabaye was believe to have been on not much more than $10k euros a week while at Lille before we bought him (at that time he had already made a handful of appearances for France...). The acquisitions of Debuchy, Sissoko, Yanga Mbiwa would all be on probably 20-30k pounds (being high profile players from France) while Goufrann and Haidara were not as highly rated in France so were probably on less money as well.

With Colocinni our highest wage earner on reportedly about 80k a week possibly leaving in the coming transfer window, that should free up some wages for Carroll if we were to make a play for him. Without getting too far ahead - I think the club would also ask him to take a wage cut or have Liverpool pay a portion of his wages should an acceptable transfer fee be worked out. I also don't think Carroll would hold out for more money and he may jump at the chance to return to his boyhood/hometown - he may even take a pay cut.

I'm guessing clubs will use that 70m to either invest in improved facilities, cover operating losses or to repay debt then.

 

[chef]

im not sure, just that it's at 22 mil overall.

Whats €22 million in £?

 

[ADL9798]

Whats €22 million in £?

A tick under £19m.

 

[Cruyff14]

lol at people not rating Neymar.

 

[Super Hans]

**** I hate Chelsea, they just keep buying players that they don't need. Schurrle would be better off staying in Germany.

I hope Eriksen goes to Liverpool, he's exactly what they need.

 

[Super Hans]

Is there any word on where Mertens could end up? I rate him as one of the best players outside of the big leagues.

 

[LeoMessi]

lol at people not rating Neymar.

I don't think it's a matter of not rating him. The kid definitely has potential. But as flashy as he is in the Brasilian league, he still hasn't really shown anything consistent except glimpses of brilliance. To show he really is the real deal, he has to move to Europe's big four.

The reason why I wouldn't throw the kitchen sink in for his signature at Barceona, is simply bc we're not desperately in need of another striker. We have the best in the world. What we also have is a mediocre defence against which even if we made a team out of the posters here and we had 10 opportunities, we would get at least one goal .

That's why defence is more important at Barca right now.

 

[ADL9798]

Is there any word on where Mertens could end up? I rate him as one of the best players outside of the big leagues.

I'm a huge fan of his, extremely underrated player, his scoring and assists record speaks for itself.

We were strongly linked with him in the January window but for whatever reason a move never eventuated. I haven't heard of any other clubs being keen on him (for what reason I'm not sure) and I don't know if we're still interested but I would absolutely love to see him sharing the forward line with Coutinho and Suarez with Sturridge rotating through next season.

 

[Stratton_Gun]

Neymar could just be another Jo. Would not want at United for the price quoted

 

[Stratton_Gun]

I know speculation is building about Erikson to Liverpool but why the hell would he go there?
Still not convinced

 

[pantskyle]

Neymar could just be another Jo. Would not want at United for the price quoted

The prices being thrown around are not what he is worth right now BUT if he reaches his potential then 50m could be unders.

 

[chef]

**** I hate Chelsea, they just keep buying players that they don't need. Schurrle would be better off staying in Germany.

I hope Eriksen goes to Liverpool, he's exactly what they need.

To me, he is one of what we need(DM is a priority) and will play a lot of games across the front four.

 

[ADL9798]

I know speculation is building about Erikson to Liverpool but why the hell would he go there?
Still not convinced

The current speculation is that we've met Ajax's asking price for him. There's still the not so trivial matter of agreeing personal terms with the player. I guess it will all come down to how well Rodgers can sell the club's future to him and how ambitious we are with the other players we bring in over the summer as to whether Eriksen buys into that, he's also made it clear that wherever he goes he wants to be playing every week in a side that plays good football, so the similarities between our playing style and Ajax's may work in our favour. Still a long way to go in any case.

It has surprised me how few clubs have actually shown a genuine interest in him, apparently only Liverpool and Spurs have approached Ajax about him at this point but I'm sure that will change over the next few months. It's all well and good saying 'why would he want to go to Liverpool' but it's all relative based on the options available to him. If the top shelf clubs aren't showing interest (and even if they are they may not be able to guarantee him playing time) then why wouldn't he look to join Liverpool, a move to the Premier League would be a logical progression in his career and we've got a history of players who have gone on to have successful careers at clubs like Madrid and Barcelona if that's the direction he wants to go.

 

[Rustin Cohle]

Chelsea should be doing everything they can to sign Yohan Cabaye and the best DM available. That is far more important than a striker or another attacking mid/winger.

 

[scottwade]

Chelsea should be doing everything they can to sign Yohan Cabaye and the best DM available. That is far more important than a striker or another attacking mid/winger.

Never understood why Chelsea seemed so keen to rid themselves of Essien.
Was it to do with the PL rules regarding the squads or merely Di Matteo didn't rate him?
Hasn't starred for Real by any means, but always thought he was useful player and preferred him to Mikel.

 

[moomba]

Neymar could just be another Jo. Would not want at United for the price quoted

Its like saying you should never buy a Portuguese player because they could be the next Bebe. Or a Brazilian midfielder in case they're the next Kleberson.

Jo and Neymar are two different players with different attributes that just happen to share the same nationality.

And Jo was never rated in the same stratosphere as Neymar is.

 

[Cruyff14]

Never understood why Chelsea seemed so keen to rid themselves of Essien.
Was it to do with the PL rules regarding the squads or merely Di Matteo didn't rate him?
Hasn't starred for Real by any means, but always thought he was useful player and preferred him to Mikel.

He was finished in fairness. Injury prone and whatnot.