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How long does Rooney have left? He could be finished by 30 with his body type.

rooney said himself that soon he will have to move deeper into centre midfield, he said after every game his legs ache abnormally and he isn't sure he can keep it up later in his career
 

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50mil for someone on the back of one standout season in the EPL? If there's a club stupid enough, then good on Liverpool
 

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Suarez price is affected by a few things. First his reputation and marketability is right up the shitter.

It may not bother someone like Madrid but you can be sure they'll use that as an excuse to lowball Liverpool,

Secondly it all depends on how keen he is to leave. He could easily make his position at the club untenable, and pretty much force Liverpool to sell.

Thirdly is the possibility of a buyout clause.

On age and ability I reckon he is a £50m signing. But there's more to Suarez than age and ability and his general campaignerishness takes a good £10m off the asking price for me. At an English club I reckon you could take another £10m off such is his reputation here.
 

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Suarez's 2012/13 season in addition to his incredible scoring record with Ajax has (like Bale) propelled him into being one of the top 10 players in world football based on form at the moment. We're in the fortunate position that he willingly signed an extension until 2018 earlier this season, so regardless of whether he wants to leave or not we're under no pressure to sell him (like Tottenham with Modric a few years ago).
From afar, with zero inside knowledge, Suarez seems the type who'd let his emotions rule his form, hence if he doesn't get what he wants, he'd become a negative influence on the team and would go through spells of sulking on the ground. This is opposed to someone like Modric who comes across as a true professional and leaves his emotions for his agent to deal with.

Been very quiet on Rooney.

Top clubs don't seem that interested.
His wage is too high.
I know the following is just another media report, but .................

PSG tell Rooney to 'name his price'

Paris Saint-Germain have told Wayne Rooney to name his price as they prepare a £30 million bid for the Manchester United striker.

The Ligue 1 champions have made an initial offer of £300,000 a week after tax on a four-year deal, according to the Daily Express, as they plan to make their assault on the Champions League with Rooney spearheading the attack with Zlatan Ibrahimovic.

PSG's wealthy Qatari owners made Rooney their No. 1 transfer target after the 27-year-old asked to leave Old Trafford towards the end of last season - and have said if the initial offer is not enough then the player himself can dictate the terms of a contract.

PSG tell Rooney to 'name his price'

Reports like that have to originate somewhere.
 

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Suarez is the sort of player who just loves football. If asked to stay on I would have no doubt his undoubted passion for football would eclipse his disappointment that he didn't get his Madrid move. We all know how these transfers work, the selling club doesn't want to sell and won't even consider a bid at market value (40 million pound in Suarez's case). Bids keep going up until an offer comes in too good to refuse. This happened with Torres who Chelsea only bid 25 million initially for (about right at the time of his transfer) and ended up with Chelsea doubling their offer. The same thing then happened to us when we bid 20 million for Carroll and Comoli ended up making a ridiculous offer too good for Newcastle to resist. Also not playing simply isn't an option for Suarez with the World Cup coming up and he isn't the type to do that anyway. One of two things will happen - Suarez will go for 50 million plus or stays for one more season and leaves with the blessing of the club if we do not make top 4. We are in a fantastic position negotiation wise.
 

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PSG tell Rooney to 'name his price'

Paris Saint-Germain have told Wayne Rooney to name his price as they prepare a £30 million bid for the Manchester United striker.

The Ligue 1 champions have made an initial offer of £300,000 a week after tax on a four-year deal, according to the Daily Express, as they plan to make their assault on the Champions League with Rooney spearheading the attack with Zlatan Ibrahimovic.

PSG's wealthy Qatari owners made Rooney their No. 1 transfer target after the 27-year-old asked to leave Old Trafford towards the end of last season - and have said if the initial offer is not enough then the player himself can dictate the terms of a contract.

PSG tell Rooney to 'name his price'

Reports like that have to originate somewhere.
Really?

Don't they have a 75% tax rate in France.
 

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50mil for someone on the back of one standout season in the EPL? If there's a club stupid enough, then good on Liverpool
And Bale? He's been valued at anything from £60-85m and before this year he'd never scored more than 10 goals in a season.

At international level there haven't been many better strikers over the last 3 years than Suarez, this season wasnt just a flash in the pan for him. In his final season at Ajax he scored 49 goals in 48 games. Regardless of the quality of the Eredivisie that's an impressive achievement. The fact is, if Madrid see he and Bale as the difference that would see them winning La Liga or the Champions League they'll come up with the money for both of them. We've seen the exorbitant sums they've been willing to part with in the past to continue their Galactico philosophy, I think we're going to see how deep their pockets are again this summer.

As for his baggage, it comes from his relentless, frenzied and at times maniacal desire to win so it's difficult to say it reduces his value because it's probably the biggest factor in why he is such a good footballer. Unfortunately at times the red mist descends and that white line fever leads him to do stupid things. It needs to be tempered for sure but you could never get rid of that side of his game because he wouldn't be half as good a player. Madrid will be aware of this and if it bothered them that much then they wouldn't want to sign him because it isn't something that's going to change!
 

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WC2022OZ raised a good point there.

Suarez can't afford to sit out a season, or sulk it up and be in the periphery. With a World Cup just around the corner, he needs to prove that he should be starting ahead of Cavani/Forlan/Lodeiro.
 

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WC2022OZ raised a good point there.

Suarez can't afford to sit out a season, or sulk it up and be in the periphery. With a World Cup just around the corner, he needs to prove that he should be starting ahead of Cavani/Forlan/Lodeiro.
No value in Liverpool keeping him against his will. Unless they can convince to stay voluntarily they'll be just as keen to see him sold as Suarez seems to be.

They'll make plenty of "not for sale" noises but 99 times out of 100 that just means "we want more money".
 

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Suarez is the sort of player who just loves football. If asked to stay on I would have no doubt his undoubted passion for football would eclipse his disappointment that he didn't get his Madrid move. We all know how these transfers work, the selling club doesn't want to sell and won't even consider a bid at market value (40 million pound in Suarez's case). Bids keep going up until an offer comes in too good to refuse. This happened with Torres who Chelsea only bid 25 million initially for (about right at the time of his transfer) and ended up with Chelsea doubling their offer. The same thing then happened to us when we bid 20 million for Carroll and Comoli ended up making a ridiculous offer too good for Newcastle to resist. Also not playing simply isn't an option for Suarez with the World Cup coming up and he isn't the type to do that anyway. One of two things will happen - Suarez will go for 50 million plus or stays for one more season and leaves with the blessing of the club if we do not make top 4. We are in a fantastic position negotiation wise.
What difference does top 4 make? It Madrid want him again next season, Suarez will want Madrid again next season.
 

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And Bale? He's been valued at anything from £60-85m and before this year he'd never scored more than 10 goals in a season.

At international level there haven't been many better strikers over the last 3 years than Suarez, this season wasnt just a flash in the pan for him. In his final season at Ajax he scored 49 goals in 48 games. Regardless of the quality of the Eredivisie that's an impressive achievement. The fact is, if Madrid see he and Bale as the difference that would see them winning La Liga or the Champions League they'll come up with the money for both of them. We've seen the exorbitant sums they've been willing to part with in the past to continue their Galactico philosophy, I think we're going to see how deep their pockets are again this summer.

As for his baggage, it comes from his relentless, frenzied and at times maniacal desire to win so it's difficult to say it reduces his value because it's probably the biggest factor in why he is such a good footballer. Unfortunately at times the red mist descends and that white line fever leads him to do stupid things. It needs to be tempered for sure but you could never get rid of that side of his game because he wouldn't be half as good a player. Madrid will be aware of this and if it bothered them that much then they wouldn't want to sign him because it isn't something that's going to change!
Suarez had one a half under performing seasons in England.
Anyway, regardless of what you think Bale will go for more than Suarez, every day of the week.
Happy to wager with you if you like?
 

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And my definition of Galactico especially from when they were doing it 10 years ago was signing the best player in the world in the position. Which Suarez isn't.
He aint a Galactico.
 
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