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Lol Ballo is worth 25 million plus easily.
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Downing is English, so overpriced. I think we can get 10 for him pretty comfortably.
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usually that applies to players who aren't 28 and not on pretty big wages though.
who would (or is even capable) of paying a 10 mil fee + his wage demands?
who would (or is even capable) of paying a 10 mil fee + his wage demands?
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Aston Villa, West Ham, Sunderland, Newcastle, QPR just to name a few that I think would take on Downing.
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Would you pay £10m for him if he'd gone to Spurs 18 months ago and had the time there as he's had at Liverpool?
Would be interesting to look back through the archives and see what Liverpool fans were arguing he was worth back in May 2011. I bet it was not a lot more than £8-10m. One and a half appalling seasons later and you all think he's held his value.
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Downing cost Villa 10 million pounds from Boro in 2009. You're dreaming if you think he would have still been worth the same amount 2 years later at age 26, playing for England and being Villa's best player in season 10/11. More to the point Villa wouldn't even consider selling him for 15 million plus. 12-15 was about right, 20 was too much. We probably aren't playing him now so he doesn't reach the quota of games required to pay all of the add ons.
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i'd say he's not getting played because he is a really mediocre player at best who is not good enough for the 13th placed team. and then only time he has played is in the europa league in a different position.
hardly a ringing endorsement for the lad no?
hardly a ringing endorsement for the lad no?
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Talking to the wrong bloke about Downing, I hated him before he came to LFC. I never wanted us to sign him in the first place and was appalled at the price we paid. Would we pay 10 million for him now if he played for Spurs and had the same last 18 months. No. But we are Liverpool Football Club, totally different to the other clubs I mentioned.
Downing would be a marquee signing for those other clubs. Not so with LFC.
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Look under delusion in the dictionary and there's a screenshot of this post.
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i should add that i dont think downing is a BAD player. i think he would be good for the clubs like villa and qpr exactly. but my belief is that downing is not worth the 10 mil fee + his wages + whatever else to get him to the club when there are guys running around at lower la liga or serie a clubs who could do the job for half the price. his age doesn't exactly help either.
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Yeah I heard Downing was on £80k/week, Carroll is supposedly *only* on £65-70k. That's why I'm somewhat happy with the current approach of the new owners. You get a big contract when you earn it by performing well at Liverpool. They're not rewarding potential or succumbing to unrealistic player demands because of our current predicament.
Unlike f*cking Comolli. Whatever your opinion of the quality of the players he brought in, the man has to go down as the worst negotiator in the history of football.
"We'll give you £25m for Carroll"
"No"
"£30m"
"No"
"£35m"
*Pardew falls off his chair* "Done"
Even Henderson who I'm happy with as a signing, apparently our opening bid for him was £14m before coming back with an offer of £16m to seal the deal; although I'll give him some leeway for that as Chelsea, City & United were all circling at that point, but hasn't he ever heard of lowballing?
That's just about right
He's bad for a club that is trying to go places, so he's bad for us.
Just like Heskey 10 years ago, I would pay someone to get him off our hands
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Like I said, maybe a couple of million more.
But lets not get carried away with what was a decent, but just decent last season at Villa.
And now he's two years older, on more money, a year or two away from the end of his contract, and a bit shit.
£10m is tell him he's dreaming territory.
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Guess time will tell. I think we can find someone stupid enough to cough up 10 million.
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Regarding Downing, he'll be happy to sit on his contract. The only way we'll be able to shift him is to Adebayor-style take a hit on his transfer fee and cover the difference in his wages for wherever he moves next. He'll be gone in the summer, the lack of playing opportunity will get to him at some point and we'll shift him to the likes of QPR or Villa. Despite likely taking an initial financial hit on the move by paying him a severance package, in the long run we'll be better off (given he's costing us over £4m a year to keep him).
It would ****ing kill me if he sits on the contract
If he has half the shame he would go away, but then again footballers are shameless
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So on top of the natural depreciation in his value due to age and loss of form, we'll have to cut his transfer fee even further to entice both him and other clubs to agree to the move. Somewhere between £5-10m would be realistic I would've thought plus the partial covering of his wages for the rest of what would've been his Liverpool contract.
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Rogers doesn't play wingers in his gameplan so he's also a victim of that. Perfect player for a Villa/Sunderland/QPR/Stoke etc where he can get fed the ball down the wing and get some crosses in. Just not in our gameplan at all. He'll soon realize that and will pursue a move somewhere else so he can still chase an England berth.
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Stoke is a decent shout. Could see Pulls being interested.
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I could see Downing moving on loan rather than for a transfer, it could be a good chance to see if he'll be able to find form at another club.
Zaha will have a long way to go.
What is he 18, 19? Still very raw and would have a lot of things to mould him into becoming a good player. Theo would be better than him at present.
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walcott is streets ahead of zaha.
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