The Vent Thread

[DockersMad]

I'm short-stacked - I always am

I'm sorry, but I lol'd.

You don't say how much is actually in the pot, he may have been getting the right odds.

 

[Ricketts]

do you play online Nesbit?

 

[Simon_Nesbit]

Yeah, mainly. On PKR - purely because it happened to hit my email when I was first getting into the WSOP on tv. I'm going to switch over to one of the main ones eventually, but I'm having enough fun playing the odd hour here and there - and many/most of the players are almost as bad as I am.

I've got a group who play Thurs night, but I cleaned up the first couple of times, and so I seem to be on the outer a little - probably every second or third week I get a seat.

I played at the Launny casino a few times, but it's soooo slow - and I don't really like playing limit.

 

[The Passenger]

Flop comes 788. I start pmsl. I shove and the third player folds. Other guy flips over K's and starts abusing me for making the call with 78. I try to explain it was accidental but he refuses to believe me lol.

you should've checked the flop and turn and waited for the river to shove and hope he caught something to call you down with.

he is never going to call your additional shove on the flop unless he has an over pair or some random 8.

just say he has AK or AQ by allowing him to catch an ace, queen, king or if he hits his flush if he's on a flush draw....

your stack at the end of this hand would've been about 70k yeah??

getting that extra 8k is always handy (it's over 10% extra to your stack)

 

[Karl Pilkington]

you should've checked the flop and turn and waited for the river to shove and hope he caught something to call you down with.

he is never going to call your additional shove on the flop unless he has an over pair or some random 8.

just say he has AK or AQ by allowing him to catch an ace, queen, king or if he hits his flush if he's on a flush draw....

your stack at the end of this hand would've been about 70k yeah??

getting that extra 8k is always handy (it's over 10% extra to your stack)

Yeah that was my mistake. But it sounds crazy, I'm a very instinctive player, and I figured I'd just been blessed by the poker gods, and I didn't want to push my luck. A shove was going to give me a giant pot and guarantee I'd be making the money (I was top 5 at one point I think), if I checked it he might have had a higher pocket pair and hit a better full house, I just didn't want to push it - was very happy with the fluke at that point. Take it and run son!

 

[The Passenger]

if he has an overpair or an 8 he's going to call your shove and suck out on you anyway.

but yeah, i agree that when something totally flukey like that happens it can be hard to compose yourself and work out just exactly how to get the most value.

 

[Cartman121]

FFS Bwin = shittest ****ing site going round. Just closed about 10 of their best tournaments on and at least halved all of their guarantees. Clearly losing money.

Edit: never mind, just maintenance for the next 5 days. Will be all back up and running on the 16th.

 

[ashley12]

Getting all-in pre with aces and then getting sucked out on says exactly zero about your play.

This

I meant someone calling an all-in with 9/10 off.

If you had 9/10 off, would you call an all-in pre-flop? Under what circumstance?

When I am getting the correct odds, as I did the other day at Burswood. Someone in a cash game got themselves down to 3 BB's. He shoved, two other called and I overcalled with a fairly iffy hand, I think 65s. I flopped a straight draw and got there, and cracked his aces...

It is his own fault for letting himself get that short and not being able to defend his hands, the same occurs in tournaments for letting yourself get blinded away to the point you cant defend your hand...

if he has an overpair or an 8 he's going to call your shove and suck out on you anyway.

but yeah, i agree that when something totally flukey like that happens it can be hard to compose yourself and work out just exactly how to get the most value.

Yep, though I still believe you must let him catch up in that spot, and if he spikes a king on the turn for kings full then thats rough luck, but would have happened anyway because in most circumstances I call there with KK as do most others...

 

[Karl Pilkington]

Yep, though I still believe you must let him catch up in that spot, and if he spikes a king on the turn for kings full then thats rough luck, but would have happened anyway because in most circumstances I call there with KK as do most others...

Yeah I was kind of surprised he didn't call, but he must have realised I'd hit a set. Still cracking up though at the sheer volume of abuse I copped after that call with 78s.

 

[Simon_Nesbit]

When slow playing Aces doesn't work.

Playing at my friends table tonight. (literally walked in the door now, straight on here)

I'm BB, SB calls, giving me a free check. I'm holding 9/10 clubs.

Flop comes J/Q/K clubs.



Then with such a big stack (virtually double anyone else) I bullied my way around the table - done by 9pm.

One of those days where the cards just kept coming - I would have won probably 80% of hands I played.

My Vent? I won't be invited next week.

 

[ShearMagic9]

PokerStars Game #29240346899: Tournament #170941163, $3.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/06/11 7:03:45 ET
Table '170941163 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Prof-Bleron (1490 in chips)
Seat 2: DavorSuker24 (1180 in chips)
Seat 3: Korabö (3040 in chips)
Seat 4: cityoflight (1160 in chips)
Seat 5: Fastfood5901 (3540 in chips)
Seat 6: tontsa1977 (1045 in chips)
Seat 7: FortressCOMS (1760 in chips)
Seat 8: shearmagic (1735 in chips)
DavorSuker24: posts small blind 15
Korabö: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shearmagic [Ks Kd]
cityoflight: calls 30
Fastfood5901: folds
tontsa1977: folds
FortressCOMS: calls 30
shearmagic: raises 120 to 150
Prof-Bleron: calls 150
DavorSuker24: folds
Korabö: folds
cityoflight: calls 120
FortressCOMS: folds
*** FLOP *** [3h 3s 8c]
cityoflight: bets 270
shearmagic: raises 1315 to 1585 and is all-in
Prof-Bleron: folds
cityoflight: calls 740 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (575) returned to shearmagic
*** TURN *** [3h 3s 8c] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [3h 3s 8c 8d] [6s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cityoflight: shows [Jd 8s] (a full house, Eights full of Threes)
shearmagic: shows [Ks Kd] (two pair, Kings and Eights)
shearmagic said, "lmao"
cityoflight collected 2545 from pot
shearmagic said, "J/8?"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2545 | Rake 0
Board [3h 3s 8c 8d 6s]
Seat 1: Prof-Bleron (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: DavorSuker24 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Korabö (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: cityoflight showed [Jd 8s] and won (2545) with a full house, Eights full of Threes
Seat 5: Fastfood5901 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: tontsa1977 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: FortressCOMS folded before Flop
Seat 8: shearmagic showed [Ks Kd] and lost with two pair, Kings and Eights

PokerStars Game #29240395945: Tournament #170941163, $3.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2009/06/11 7:06:31 ET
Table '170941163 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Prof-Bleron (1340 in chips)
Seat 2: DavorSuker24 (1165 in chips)
Seat 3: Korabö (2985 in chips)
Seat 4: cityoflight (2145 in chips)
Seat 5: Fastfood5901 (3340 in chips)
Seat 6: tontsa1977 (1445 in chips)
Seat 7: FortressCOMS (1730 in chips)
Seat 8: shearmagic (800 in chips)
Fastfood5901: posts small blind 25
tontsa1977: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shearmagic [Jh Jd]
FortressCOMS: folds
shearmagic: raises 750 to 800 and is all-in
Prof-Bleron: folds
DavorSuker24: folds
Korabö: calls 800
cityoflight: folds
Fastfood5901: folds
tontsa1977: folds
*** FLOP *** [4s 2d 6c]
*** TURN *** [4s 2d 6c] [3s]
*** RIVER *** [4s 2d 6c 3s] [3d]
shearmagic said, "lmao"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
shearmagic: shows [Jh Jd] (two pair, Jacks and Threes)
Korabö: shows [Ac 5c] (a straight, Deuce to Six)
Korabö collected 1675 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1675 | Rake 0
Board [4s 2d 6c 3s 3d]
Seat 1: Prof-Bleron folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: DavorSuker24 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Korabö showed [Ac 5c] and won (1675) with a straight, Deuce to Six
Seat 4: cityoflight (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Fastfood5901 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: tontsa1977 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: FortressCOMS folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: shearmagic showed [Jh Jd] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Threes

PokerStars Game #29240988125: Tournament #170943586, $3.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/06/11 7:38:00 ET
Table '170943586 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: joeyorcullo (1627 in chips)
Seat 3: SLG89 (6282 in chips)
Seat 4: lully888 (7135 in chips)
Seat 5: joszunabot18 (1095 in chips)
Seat 7: shearmagic (4050 in chips)
Seat 8: K10rulesAA (6811 in chips)
joeyorcullo: posts small blind 100
SLG89: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shearmagic [Kc Qh]
lully888: raises 200 to 400
joszunabot18: folds
shearmagic: calls 400
K10rulesAA: folds
joeyorcullo: folds
SLG89: folds
*** FLOP *** [6c Qs Tc]
lully888: bets 600
shearmagic: calls 600
*** TURN *** [6c Qs Tc] [Kd]
lully888: bets 600
shearmagic: calls 600
*** RIVER *** [6c Qs Tc Kd] [Th]
lully888: checks
shearmagic: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
lully888: shows [Ad Ac] (two pair, Aces and Tens)
shearmagic: shows [Kc Qh] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
lully888 collected 3500 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3500 | Rake 0
Board [6c Qs Tc Kd Th]
Seat 2: joeyorcullo (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: SLG89 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: lully888 showed [Ad Ac] and won (3500) with two pair, Aces and Tens
Seat 5: joszunabot18 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: shearmagic showed [Kc Qh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Queens
Seat 8: K10rulesAA (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Just some of the wonderful hands I've had tonight....

 

[Cartman121]

I vent at variance - **** you variance!

 

[red+black]

Just some of the wonderful hands I've had tonight....

Sorry, but I LOL'd a little reading through these

 

[ShearMagic9]

Sorry, but I LOL'd a little reading through these

It's always funny when it happens to other people

 

[red+black]

This is a big reflection on my playing I think. Small cash table (2c/5c) I go All-in with pocket Aces.

The way I see it, bets and raises on small tables are meaningless as the money is negligible. 1c/2c, you open-raise to 20c? I'll call with junk. What could I lose? A couple bucks?

I don't think you need to grind at absolute micro-stakes. Move up a little.

 

[Karl Pilkington]

Was down tot he last 30 in a 180 man tourney, I'm a slightly bigger stack than average. Anyway I'm dealt A5suited in late position so I limp in, one guy raises small and i call.

Flop comes A57 rainbow, other guy goes all in, I call. He flips over AK and hits a 7 on the river to beat me with a better kicker.

FU poker.

 

[coughs2richo]

Was down tot he last 30 in a 180 man tourney, I'm a slightly bigger stack than average. Anyway I'm dealt A5suited in late position so I limp in, one guy raises small and i call.

Flop comes A57 rainbow, other guy goes all in, I call. He flips over AK and hits a 7 on the river to beat me with a better kicker.

FU poker.

ITS JUST SO SICK

 

[Karl Pilkington]

ITS JUST SO SICK

I would have been a real chance to make the FT if I'd won too, was a giant pot.

Still, he was preflop favourite so I can't complain too much.

 

[Cartman121]

ITM 21% from 60 tourneys with an average field size of 200 people, and i've only just scraped in a profit.

 

[paxmaniac]

ITM 21% from 60 tourneys with an average field size of 200 people, and i've only just scraped in a profit.

Perhaps that's an indication that you play too tight near the bubble?

 

[Cartman121]

Perhaps that's an indication that you play too tight near the bubble?

Haha no, probably an indication I play too loose near the bubble.

 

[ashley12]

Haha no, probably an indication I play too loose near the bubble.

Disagree. Without being a huge stats man, I think that you making the money heaps, but not getting the big cashes. This basically means that your always just scraping into the money for stuff all profits. If you get more aggressive near the bubble, you might miss out on the money a few times, but the other times you will give up a big chance to go deep and get a huge payout...

 

[Borgsta]

I have lost 6 > 90% for sweeping high and low pot to losing both in the last 2 days ~ approx 10 tournaments. Getting beyong a ****ing joke now.

Last one was AA2d5 vs KdK9d6. Flop comes Ad 5d 2h. Turn 9c, flop 7d. oK so this wasn't 90% but **** me its pissing me off. One before had 10AAx on a board of 9 8 Q. So my J10Kx is dominating. Then the turn gives me a flush draw aswell but it is 10 making my str8 higher and bam river is the only K that can hurt me. **** 2 out of 10 double or nothings is one heck of a cooler.

 

[Cartman121]

Disagree. Without being a huge stats man, I think that you making the money heaps, but not getting the big cashes. This basically means that your always just scraping into the money for stuff all profits. If you get more aggressive near the bubble, you might miss out on the money a few times, but the other times you will give up a big chance to go deep and get a huge payout...

I know what you mean but that's what I do do, play agressive near the bubble; dont like just scraping in. On OPR i've finished "late" 17% of the time when the average is 10% if you know the site, it's just that I haven't come top 3 in any of the big tourneys, think i've had out of 13 cashes four 4ths and a 6th in a $100er but don't seem to get the cards/any luck at the pointy end. Still yet to finish top 3 in a major tourney from 60 is fairly bad but playing well lately so will hopefully get the big cash soon.

 

[Borgsta]

Awesome I am going even lower now losing to a 1 outer for a straight flush against my flopped full house. At least I came 3rd in this SnG