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ppg05 said:
Another typical example of whats been happening at the start of every game lately. This follows Kings running into Aces last night after closing on to be itm. Really need stop playing.
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dont you ever have a bad beat win?
how many hands do you play between these bad losses?
sounds like your playing on tilt
have a few beers, relax, go back a few levels and get back on ya horse!!
 
Last night while playing on a pretty agressive table I had KK, QQ, AK in the BB - all 3 folded to me in the space of 3 orbits... Angry man!
 
rogerdoger said:
dont you ever have a bad beat win?
how many hands do you play between these bad losses?
sounds like your playing on tilt
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Actually now you mention it, you're right I do win hands.

Close down the vent thread!!!

Where/how does it sound like I'm playing on tilt? Being frustrated by a bad run does not equate to playing on tilt.
 

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rogerdoger said:
Sounds like TILT to me.
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Then perhaps you don't understand the concept.

It may sound like tilt, but it is a far stretch to draw the conclusion that I'm 'playing on tilt' (especially from the hand/s posted). Granted, a bad run may be the time a player is most at risk of this occurring, however I don't let tilt affect my game (not anymore at least). Lackluster attitude yes, but not tilt.

I asked you why it sounded like 'I was playing on tilt', not to reiterate it.
 
Yep, definitely need a break :thumbsd: Thought his river bet was an attempted steal, then when I raised he took a while before re-raising. I still didn't think he was strong, but rather believed he thought I was weak. I then strongly consider QJ, but expected he would have either raised pre, or bet/raised the flop with his flush/straight draw to see where he is at.

I probably shouldn't have shoved, yet couldn't specifically put him on QJ, and felt he would be committed enough to call with a marginal hand.

PokerStars Game #33176575457: Tournament #196489558, $30+$3 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2009/09/23 3:23:46 ET
Table '196489558 13' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Teaseariver (6155 in chips)
Seat 2: El_Majico (6485 in chips)
Seat 3: fromdag (8225 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: Jyang486 (5590 in chips)
Seat 5: ppg882005 (4950 in chips)
Seat 6: armymedik1 (410 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: LAPINKY (5990 in chips)
Seat 8: filchps (3995 in chips)
Seat 9: 74fred74 (4285 in chips)
Jyang486: posts small blind 25
ppg882005: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ppg882005 [7d 9d]
armymedik1: folds
LAPINKY: folds
filchps: folds
74fred74: folds
Teaseariver: folds
El_Majico: folds
fromdag: folds
Jyang486: calls 25
ppg882005: raises 75 to 125
Jyang486: calls 75
*** FLOP *** [8c As Tc]
Jyang486: checks
ppg882005: bets 145
Jyang486: calls 145
*** TURN *** [8c As Tc] [6d]
Jyang486: checks
ppg882005: bets 275
Jyang486: calls 275
*** RIVER *** [8c As Tc 6d] [Kd]
Jyang486: bets 500
ppg882005: raises 775 to 1275
Jyang486: raises 1225 to 2500
ppg882005: raises 1905 to 4405 and is all-in
Jyang486: calls 1905
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ppg882005: shows [7d 9d] (a straight, Six to Ten)
Jyang486: shows [Jc Qc] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
Jyang486 collected 9900 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9900 | Rake 0
Board [8c As Tc 6d Kd]
Seat 1: Teaseariver folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: El_Majico folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: fromdag (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Jyang486 (small blind) showed [Jc Qc] and won (9900) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 5: ppg882005 (big blind) showed [7d 9d] and lost with a straight, Six to Ten
Seat 6: armymedik1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: LAPINKY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: filchps folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: 74fred74 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
Tilt is a poker term for a state of mental confusion or frustration in which a player adopts a less than optimal strategy.

When I went on my downswing I believed I wasn't on tilt. I wasn't being over agressive, I wasn't shoving with air but I relaise now I wasn't playing optimaly. I'd check back a turn I would have too bet, I would flat pre instead of 3 betting. Tilt doesn't just mean crazy shoving but just being fustrated affects you.

The hand above is a cooler no doubt. QJ is rarely/never in his range here at all. Maybe you could call the river re-raise as river-reaise is always the nuts but I'm shoving all day.
 
ppg05 said:
*** RIVER *** [8c 7h 4s Jd] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bwiner: shows [Jh Jc] (a full house, Jacks full of Sevens)
ppg882005: shows [Qs Qh] (two pair, Queens and Sevens)
bwiner collected 6410 from pot
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rogerdoger said:
dont you ever have a bad beat win?
how many hands do you play between these bad losses?
sounds like your playing on tilt
have a few beers, relax, go back a few levels and get back on ya horse!!
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[ ] Getting it all-in pre Queens vs. Jacks = tilting
[x] Getting sucked out on after getting it in a 80-20 favourite pre could lead to tilting.

ppg05 said:
Actually now you mention it, you're right I do win hands.

Close down the vent thread!!!
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Then my posting would be reduced by 50%. :o

rogerdoger said:
Sounds like TILT to me.
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[ ] Tilt.

Just for clarification: Tilt is a poker term for a state of mental confusion or frustration in which a player adopts a less than optimal strategy, usually resulting in the player becoming over-agressive.

PalaceGun said:
He was probably frustrated that his requests for chip dumping were being denied... :D
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[ ] Relevant
[ ] Funny
[ ] Witty
[x] Immature

Not trying to get involved in anything that is obviously ongoing, just stating my opinion.

ppg05 said:
PokerStars Game #33176575457: Tournament #196489558, $30+$3 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2009/09/23 3:23:46 ET
Table '196489558 13' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Teaseariver (6155 in chips)
Seat 2: El_Majico (6485 in chips)
Seat 3: fromdag (8225 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: Jyang486 (5590 in chips)
Seat 5: ppg882005 (4950 in chips)
Seat 6: armymedik1 (410 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: LAPINKY (5990 in chips)
Seat 8: filchps (3995 in chips)
Seat 9: 74fred74 (4285 in chips)
Jyang486: posts small blind 25
ppg882005: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ppg882005 [7d 9d]
armymedik1: folds
LAPINKY: folds
filchps: folds
74fred74: folds
Teaseariver: folds
El_Majico: folds
fromdag: folds
Jyang486: calls 25
ppg882005: raises 75 to 125
Jyang486: calls 75
*** FLOP *** [8c As Tc]
Jyang486: checks
ppg882005: bets 145
Jyang486: calls 145
*** TURN *** [8c As Tc] [6d]
Jyang486: checks
ppg882005: bets 275
Jyang486: calls 275
*** RIVER *** [8c As Tc 6d] [Kd]
Jyang486: bets 500
ppg882005: raises 775 to 1275
Jyang486: raises 1225 to 2500
ppg882005: raises 1905 to 4405 and is all-in
Jyang486: calls 1905
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ppg882005: shows [7d 9d] (a straight, Six to Ten)
Jyang486: shows [Jc Qc] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
Jyang486 collected 9900 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9900 | Rake 0
Board [8c As Tc 6d Kd]
Seat 1: Teaseariver folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: El_Majico folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: fromdag (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Jyang486 (small blind) showed [Jc Qc] and won (9900) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 5: ppg882005 (big blind) showed [7d 9d] and lost with a straight, Six to Ten
Seat 6: armymedik1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: LAPINKY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: filchps folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: 74fred74 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Think you played it fine except for the last re-raise, once he makes that 3rd raise to 2500 on the river i'd just be flat-calling there; still you only lose to JQ and he could pay you off with a very wide range of hands there so you can make a case for the shove really, especially if he's a donkey.
 

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PalaceGun said:
Thanks, much valued.
Just trying to help sort out why he's so frustrated
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For starters, I have long forgotten what you want me to apologise for.

Whatever these issues were, you should remember I had only just started playing poker. After 1 1/2+ years, my attitude/strategies etc. have long changed, and I can clearly see the faults in some of my past comments.

We have both previously made petty remarks, and we both haven't shown class at times - the difference now being only one of us is continuing this trend.

Clearly it is up to you, but like I said it would be nice if you removed me from your sig. Dislike me however much you want, but move on please.

The poker board has been filled with so much of this crap, and if it wasn't annoying over a year ago (it was), then it certainly is now.
 
ppg05 said:
Then perhaps you don't understand the concept.

It may sound like tilt, but it is a far stretch to draw the conclusion that I'm 'playing on tilt' (especially from the hand/s posted). Granted, a bad run may be the time a player is most at risk of this occurring, however I don't let tilt affect my game (not anymore at least). Lackluster attitude yes, but not tilt.

I asked you why it sounded like 'I was playing on tilt', not to reiterate it.
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Whats the difference??:confused:
 
ppg05 said:
For starters, I have long forgotten what you want me to apologise for.

Clearly it is up to you, but like I said it would be nice if you removed me from your sig. Dislike me however much you want, but move on please.
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Lies and abusive pm's. Just a few words will do, not too difficult.
As promised the sig goes once you do.
 
Back to back hands :rolleyes:

PokerStars Game #33212109378: Tournament #197989058, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/09/23 23:35:16 ET
Table '197989058 10' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: chinadoll20 (4055 in chips)
Seat 2: ZDVB (1970 in chips)
Seat 3: ppg882005 (2450 in chips)
Seat 4: xplosive2012 (5270 in chips)
Seat 5: SandyMike (6320 in chips)
Seat 6: FALSETEETH36 (2085 in chips)
Seat 7: BRH 8888 (600 in chips)
Seat 8: kkluxkk (8125 in chips)
Seat 9: rogerchu28 (4890 in chips)
BRH 8888: posts small blind 75
kkluxkk: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ppg882005 [Ac Ah]
rogerchu28: folds
chinadoll20: folds
ZDVB: calls 150
ppg882005: raises 2300 to 2450 and is all-in
xplosive2012: folds
SandyMike: folds
FALSETEETH36: folds
BRH 8888: folds
kkluxkk: folds
ZDVB: calls 1820 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (480) returned to ppg882005
*** FLOP *** [Qs 2c 7c]
*** TURN *** [Qs 2c 7c] [4s]
*** RIVER *** [Qs 2c 7c 4s] [Kd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ZDVB: shows [Qd Kh] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
ppg882005: shows [Ac Ah] (a pair of Aces)
ZDVB collected 4165 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4165 | Rake 0
Board [Qs 2c 7c 4s Kd]
Seat 1: chinadoll20 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: ZDVB showed [Qd Kh] and won (4165) with two pair, Kings and Queens
Seat 3: ppg882005 showed [Ac Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: xplosive2012 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: SandyMike folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: FALSETEETH36 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: BRH 8888 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: kkluxkk (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: rogerchu28 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

PokerStars Game #33212124963: Tournament #197989058, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/09/23 23:35:53 ET
Table '197989058 10' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: chinadoll20 (4055 in chips)
Seat 2: ZDVB (4165 in chips)
Seat 3: ppg882005 (480 in chips)
Seat 4: xplosive2012 (5270 in chips)
Seat 5: SandyMike (6320 in chips)
Seat 6: FALSETEETH36 (2085 in chips)
Seat 7: BRH 8888 (525 in chips)
Seat 8: kkluxkk (7975 in chips)
Seat 9: rogerchu28 (4890 in chips)
kkluxkk: posts small blind 75
rogerchu28: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ppg882005 [5c 5s]
chinadoll20 said, "man"
chinadoll20: folds
ZDVB: raises 450 to 600
ppg882005: calls 480 and is all-in
xplosive2012: folds
SandyMike: folds
FALSETEETH36: folds
BRH 8888: folds
kkluxkk: folds
rogerchu28: folds
Uncalled bet (120) returned to ZDVB
*** FLOP *** [8c Qc 2c]
*** TURN *** [8c Qc 2c] [6h]
*** RIVER *** [8c Qc 2c 6h] [Th]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ZDVB: shows [Ad Ac] (a pair of Aces)
ppg882005: shows [5c 5s] (a pair of Fives)
ZDVB collected 1185 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1185 | Rake 0
Board [8c Qc 2c 6h Th]
Seat 1: chinadoll20 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: ZDVB showed [Ad Ac] and won (1185) with a pair of Aces
Seat 3: ppg882005 showed [5c 5s] and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 4: xplosive2012 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: SandyMike folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: FALSETEETH36 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: BRH 8888 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: kkluxkk (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: rogerchu28 (big blind) folded before Flop
 

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I think we need an anti-vent thread. Something like getting AA in the BB and two shove into you, one has an underpair, the other KQss, and your Aces hold up :thumbsu:
 
red+black said:
I think we need an anti-vent thread. Something like getting AA in the BB and two shove into you, one has an underpair, the other KQss, and your Aces hold up :thumbsu:
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So if we play HU with a fellow poster, KK guy posts here, and AA guy posts in the anti-vent thread?

I like it.
 
red+black said:
I think we need an anti-vent thread. Something like getting AA in the BB and two shove into you, one has an underpair, the other KQss, and your Aces hold up :thumbsu:
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How about three players all in, one before with AA, one after with AA, me in the middle with QQ and a Q comes out on the flop. :thumbsu:
 
Anti-Vent time!!!!!!

PokerStars Game #33251903535: Tournament #198270382, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2009/09/24 23:39:07 ET
Table '198270382 4' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: ppg882005 (1335 in chips)
Seat 2: richey169 (900 in chips)
Seat 3: Faviola25 (2531 in chips)
Seat 4: cusexcuse (4440 in chips)
Seat 5: rotation x (2981 in chips)
Seat 6: bg0021 (1595 in chips)
Seat 7: weedman65 (1290 in chips)
Seat 8: bgodracir (1300 in chips)
Seat 9: slvalley (1425 in chips)
richey169: posts small blind 25
Faviola25: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ppg882005 [Ah Ad]
cusexcuse: calls 50
rotation x: folds
bg0021: calls 50
weedman65: calls 50
bgodracir: calls 50
slvalley: folds
ppg882005: raises 200 to 250
richey169: calls 225
Faviola25: folds
cusexcuse: folds
bg0021: calls 200
weedman65: folds
bgodracir: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [4h Qh Kc]
richey169: bets 50
bg0021: raises 1295 to 1345 and is all-in
bgodracir: calls 1050 and is all-in
ppg882005: calls 1085 and is all-in
richey169: calls 600 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (260) returned to bg0021
*** TURN *** [4h Qh Kc] [6h]
*** RIVER *** [4h Qh Kc 6h] [2d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bg0021: shows [Ks 7s] (a pair of Kings)
ppg882005: shows [Ah Ad] (a pair of Aces)
ppg882005 collected 70 from side pot-2
bgodracir: shows [9d Kh] (a pair of Kings)
ppg882005 collected 1200 from side pot-1
richey169: shows [Kd 8d] (a pair of Kings)
ppg882005 collected 3750 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5020 Main pot 3750. Side pot-1 1200. Side pot-2 70. | Rake 0
Board [4h Qh Kc 6h 2d]
Seat 1: ppg882005 (button) showed [Ah Ad] and won (5020) with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: richey169 (small blind) showed [Kd 8d] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 3: Faviola25 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: cusexcuse folded before Flop
Seat 5: rotation x folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: bg0021 showed [Ks 7s] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 7: weedman65 folded before Flop
Seat 8: bgodracir showed [9d Kh] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 9: slvalley folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 

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