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jackess said:
To be honest I'm not too frustrated with the game but I hope a few of them that didn't put in nearly enough effort get a massive rocket from the coaches. Some of the players effort was nowhere near good enough. Inexcusable at this level.
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Names please...
 
John said:
Ooops. Sarah Wiener. She has a kinda travelogue cooking show on SBS. I have carnal thoughts about her cooking:)

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John, this is a vent thread, can you please stay on topic !
Where are the bloody mods when you need them ?
 

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Attitude. I pointed out 3 weeks ago Voss being quoted as saying after 6 wins that "we have done what was needed this season" and read it as "enough". They achieved a marked improvement over last season and that will do. I will not be surprised at going down to Richmond and the Bulldogs and not winning another game this year.
We CAN win more than 2 remaining games but the want is not there. A handful played with desire and hunger today but only a handful. Today we showed how well we can wave our arms at the opposition ball carrier.
As for recognising where we're at, we are a better team than has been on display the last 3 games.
We were always going to lose today, but non chasing, loose checking, aimless disposing was just poor attitude footy.
On the plus side, by the time we kicked 4 goals, at least it was 4 straight.
 
PattyKisagun said:
Banfield, Crisp, Lester, Hawksley, Wrigley and McKeever will be very lucky if they play again next week. I'd drop them all and bring in Rich, Drummond, Karnezis, Beams, Lisle & Polec if fit.
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I dunno about your culling list champ. Crisp - yes, Lester - sure...

Hawksley - was going third man up, providing some quick moving options up forward. I liked his game.
Banfield - I dunno what you can ask from a small forward who comes into a team that has already dropped his head
Wrigley - Big day at the office for a 1st gamer in defence. But I thought he did well, showed some good run and some clever moments. Literally the hardest game he could expect to play for his first match in the seniors though.
McKeever - did ok considering, there were very few 'oh god' moments.

I'd like to see at least Hawks and Wrigley have another go. The other two are line ball based on team structure I think.

Only Rich and Drummo out of your list of ins would have improved our chances in that game.
 
karix said:
I dunno about your culling list champ. Crisp - yes, Lester - sure...

Hawksley - was going third man up, providing some quick moving options up forward. I liked his game.
Banfield - I dunno what you can ask from a small forward who comes into a team that has already dropped his head
Wrigley - Big day at the office for a 1st gamer in defence. But I thought he did well, showed some good run and some clever moments. Literally the hardest game he could expect to play for his first match in the seniors though.
McKeever - did ok considering, there were very few 'oh god' moments.

I'd like to see at least Hawks and Wrigley have another go. The other two are line ball based on team structure I think.

Only Rich and Drummo out of your list of ins would have improved our chances in that game.
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I thought Hawksley showed more than enough to go again. I would leave Wrigley in for another week just to see, McKeever, mmmm, I think he is in big trouble.
 
Can't understand the logic of Karny playing in the 2's. He takes 10 grabs against the Swans, is the sub next game and then dropped. ummmmmmmmmmmmmm
 
acuguy said:
Can't understand the logic of Karny playing in the 2's. He takes 10 grabs against the Swans, is the sub next game and then dropped. ummmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Yeah it didn't make sense but he seemed to get in brownys way a bit
 
karix said:
I dunno about your culling list champ. Crisp - yes, Lester - sure...

Hawksley - was going third man up, providing some quick moving options up forward. I liked his game.
Banfield - I dunno what you can ask from a small forward who comes into a team that has already dropped his head
Wrigley - Big day at the office for a 1st gamer in defence. But I thought he did well, showed some good run and some clever moments. Literally the hardest game he could expect to play for his first match in the seniors though.
McKeever - did ok considering, there were very few 'oh god' moments.

I'd like to see at least Hawks and Wrigley have another go. The other two are line ball based on team structure I think.

Only Rich and Drummo out of your list of ins would have improved our chances in that game.
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This is the vent thread, which is the place for completely unreasoned and often illogical statements based on nothing but pure emotion and the need to vent, so my thoughts were more than a little hasty. But here's my attempt to back them up.

I quite like Hawk, but I really think he was in the unfortunate position of having to basically be BOG today to keep his place - or, at least, do much more than he did. That's simply because he's a likely delistee who was given one last run at it to prove he's got what it takes to stay on the list. Did he play horrible? No, but did he do enough to prove that he could be worth perservering with not just next week but next season? Also a no for mine. When there's Rich, Drummo, and probably Karny following his ressies game as certainties to come in next week (as well as probably a few others), I can't see Hawks getting another game. Probably unfair, but just how I think it will play out.

Yes the team had essentially given up by the time Banfield was on, but the job of the sub is usually to inject something into the team that wasn't there before. I don't think he did this at all. Virtually had no impact on the entire game, and I think there's definitely more he could've done. Plus, being a sub often means you're on the brink of non-selection as it is, so I think he is a likely out.

Wrigley - Earned a rookie elevation and a shot at the top level to see what he can do, and I don't think he did enough. He'll get another chance soon enough, though, whether that's next week, later in the year, or further down the track.

McKeever - late minute inclusion as it was, but as soon as Goose went off he really needed to stand up in defence, and instead did the opposite. Yes, his poor decision making was not so much a factor today, but there were moments in defence where he wasn't where he should've been, and it led to Weagles goal. It's especially hard to stay in the team as a young defender on the brink when you lose by nearly 100.

On prior form, a thrashing can normally result in numerous changes to the squad. The 6 day break along with our two returning players won't stop that much either. On a different day, all of these guys might get a reprieve, but I'd be surprised if at least three of them weren't playing in the 2's next weekend. Just how I see it.
 
acuguy said:
Can't understand the logic of Karny playing in the 2's. He takes 10 grabs against the Swans, is the sub next game and then dropped. ummmmmmmmmmmmmm
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He doesn't have the tank to run a full game out on Subi just yet would be the main reason I think. I wouldn't mind seeing him taking Crisp's spot next week.
 

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I'd like to vent my frustration with ALL the coaches, the plan to disguise a tank has clearly not been adhered to! :mad:
 
acuguy said:
Can't understand the logic of Karny playing in the 2's. He takes 10 grabs against the Swans, is the sub next game and then dropped. ummmmmmmmmmmmmm
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From what I've seen in the reserves lately, they're turning him into a midfielder. That will take some time.
 
The amount of unkempt facial hair in this club is disgusting. What happened to cleanly shaven or a well-kept moustache and short back and sides?!

Undisciplined!

(I have been spending far too much time around military types...)
 
I'll say it again.

Put Beams into this god damn side!

Also Doc and Jordy!
 

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WTF is going on with clearances? Been pathetic all season. Would've been good to have seen at least a little bit of improvement over the last 4 months.
 
jackess said:
WTF is going on with clearances? Been pathetic all season. Would've been good to have seen at least a little bit of improvement over the last 4 months.
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Last week we smashed the clearances.

It's more about consistency and making those clearances effective.
 
BeamStar17 said:
Last week we smashed the clearances.

It's more about consistency and making those clearances effective.
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We got more clearances than West Coast who are a poor clearance side but I think West Coast still won the clearances as their clearances were more effective.

The Lions are the worst clearance side in the comp and it's a severe disadvantage.
 
jackess said:
We got more clearances than West Coast who are a poor clearance side but I think West Coast still won the clearances as their clearances were more effective.

The Lions are the worst clearance side in the comp and it's a severe disadvantage.
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I know but my point still stands.

You say WC aren't that good at clearances in terms of numbers but they're effective when they get them.
 
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