Prediction 2023 Ladder Prediction Thread

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Howard Littlejohn said:
Before free agency, trade period, etc is basically meaningless. Afterwards is also meaningless, but that ruins a bad theory. So, coming off my worst ever year of this, why not. Its only anonymous embarrassment.

1. Collingwood - "what?" I hear everyone say, "shut up voices in my head" i say. They won a lot of close ones, which many suggest means they were lucky. That many suggests they are mentally hard in the crunch. Mind you, picking up McStay as some sort of key player, that's a desperate move of a team struggling to hold mid-table. So, maybe I am the one making the very wrong read.
2. Geelong - this does depend a lot on how many retire, get moved on, and whether it is the right people
3. Melbourne - I really didn't think they were THAT good in 2021, but looking around - who else?
4. Sydney - GF failure aside, one of few teams able to go with Geelong at other times and should be able to replicate
  • Above this point "should" play finals
5. Carlton - hate to admit it, because I prefer the league to have a comedy relief team that isn't North, but their best looks pretty damned good; consistency might be the issue with going higher
6. Brisbane - smash bad teams, don't seem to have that answer against the good
7. Richmond - the last hurrah of the era?
8. Fremantle - could really go anywhere from 1st to 15th, so slot in the middle based just on that; if they do slide further probably just a temporary setback




9. Gold Coast - assumes a solid trade period
10. Western Bulldogs - so often I like what I see from the Dogs, yet somehow the end result is underwhelming, don't see that changing
11. St Kilda - some of the tools are there to do much better things
  • Other finalists probably come from the group above
12. Essendon - all aboard they hype train to nowheresville
13. Port Adelaide - sick of it, every year I expect them to sort their s**t out and perform to ability, either I over-estimate their ability or they really are serial under-performers
14. Hawthorn
15. Adelaide
16. West Coast - I actually don't think they will be this low, as I suspect covid hurt them more than most think and players never really got match fitness until their season was practically over; I just don't have the confidence to say who they will go ahead of
17. Greater Western Sydney - apparently losing players hand over fist due this year to salary cap issues, unlikely to be able fit new ones in
  • Yawning chasm, like putting my mind up against .... um ... I dunno, name someone .... a smart person
18. North Melbourne - Clarkson or not (and my guess is about 80% "not") just winning a game will take a lot of luck again
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You say Brisbane smash bad teams and can't beat good teams, yet they beat every other top 8 side this year except Geelong and Freo (both away).
 
aussierulesrules said:
That would be a big help after we’ve had literally the hardest draw in the comp for the last two years.

Including playing 4 of this year’s top 6 twice (including Geelong) and as far as I’m aware playing the most games against teams who played finals of any team in the comp.

Our draw for two years straight has been brutal.
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Freos draw wasn't that great this time last season.

Had demons twice who just won the flag. Eagles that obvious. GWS who made finals. Saints and blue who were both finals contenders.

Oh and cats in Geelong.

But.... The eagles and GWS dropped. Saints and blues finished just below finals. Demons out in straight sets.
 
Trav 20 said:
Yeah, that won't happen.

Notwithstanding Melbourne's forward issues in 2022 they led the competition in the ''time in front'' statistic, including Geelong, with a very impressive 71%.

Geelong were second on 69%, and for perspective Sydney were 52% and Collingwood 48%.

Imagine if they fix their forward connection, which will be a huge focus in 2023.
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including finals action?
 

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Defabs said:
Geelong of 2023 won’t be too dissimilar to Geelong of 2012. Yes they will make the finals but after a decade of making so many prelims and a GF a couple of years back, for some of the players it will like mission accomplished. Those champions at the very pointy end of their careers even if they are absolutely hungry for one more, I just can’t see their bodies hold up and/or maintain reasonable speed.
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According to numerology, omens, players available, and team ethos, 2023 is meant to a back to back year.
 
Trav 20 said:
Great.

So we win the flag in 2023.
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Highly likely anyway.
Demons Tigers GF?
I don't comment on my own team until GF week.
 
almuz said:
1. Lions
2. Cats
3. Freo
4. Blues
5. Tigers
6. Dees
7. Port
8. Suns

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9. Pies
10. Swans
11. Dogs
12. Crows
13. Hawks
14. Bombers
15. Saints
16. Eagles
17. North
18. GWS
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Id be a bit upset oif we didnt improve on 13th.

Cant imagine the Swans drop that much. Nor the Lions jump that much.

Big leap for Blues too. And surely Pies maintain ?
 
HairyO said:
Id be a bit upset oif we didnt improve on 13th.

Cant imagine the Swans drop that much. Nor the Lions jump that much.

Big leap for Blues too. And surely Pies maintain ?
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I could see us sneaking into finals w/ natural progression younger guys but Gunners/BigBoy/Titch will leave some experience gaps. I think provided we keep blooding youngsters and playing a good brand, then I'm not too worried if we don't push up the ladder in 2023. Finals 2024 should be a big goal though.

Re Sydney, I thought the same about the Doggies last year. Dogs had an equally good (if not better) team on paper but were a bee's willy from missing finals.

Yeah two big ifs for the Lions - if Fages coaches and if they can sort out their defence, then I reckon their ins could give them the edge next year
 

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I cant see how the bottom 4 wont be Hawks/North/West Coast/GWS

What order... really depends on the draw and where the above bottom 4 play each other at (ie Hawks have a much better chance v WC in Tassie than at Optus)
 
Here are my predictions for the 2023 AFL Season:


The Ladder


  1. 1. Brisbane Lions
    2. Fremantle Dockers
    3. Melbourne Demons
    4. Sydney Swans
    5. Geelong Cats
    6. Collingwood Magpies
    7. Carlton Blues
    8. Gold Coast Suns
    9. Richmond Tigers
    10. St Kilda Saints
    11. Port Adelaide Power
    12. Adelaide Crows
    13. Western Bulldogs
    14. Hawthorn Hawks
    15. Essendon Bombers
    16. West Coast Eagles
    17. North Melbourne Kangaroos
    18. Greater Western Sydney Giants


Finals Week 1

Qualifying Final 1:

Brisbane Lions: 98 (14.14)

Sydney Swans: 93 (14.9)



Elimination Final 1:

Geelong Cats: 110 (16.14)

Gold Coast Suns: 52 (7.10)



Qualifying Final 2:

Fremantle Dockers: 69 (10.9)

Melbourne Demons: 81 (12.9)



Elimination Final 2:

Collingwood Magpies: 75 (11.9)

Carlton Blues: 79 (12.7)

(Jack Silvagni kicks a goal after the siren to win it for Carlton)



Finals Week 2


Semi Final 1:

Sydney Swans: 82 (12.10)

Carlton Blues: 90 (13.12)



Semi Final 2:

Fremantle Dockers: 86 (13.8)

Geelong Cats: 67 (9.13)



Finals Week 3


Preliminary Final 1:

Brisbane Lions: 85 (12.13)

Fremantle Dockers: 84 (12.12)



Preliminary Final 2:

Melbourne Demons: 91 (13.13)

Carlton Blues: 95 (14.11)



Grand Final



QT:

Carlton Blues: 27 (4.3)

Brisbane Lions: 34 (5.4)



HT:

Carlton Blues: 49 (7.7)

Brisbane Lions: 57 (8.9)



3QT:

Carlton Blues: 72 (10.12)

Brisbane Lions: 86 (12.14)



15:00:

Carlton Blues: 78 (11.12)

Brisbane Lions: 87 (12.15)



10:00:

Carlton Blues: 85 (12.13)

Brisbane Lions: 89 (12.17)



5:00:

Carlton Blues: 93 (13.15)

Brisbane Lions: 96 (13.18)



2:00:

Carlton Blues: 99 (14.15)

Brisbane Lions: 103 (14.19)



FT:

Carlton Blues: 105 (15.15)

Brisbane Lions: 103 (14.19)

Charlie Curnow kicks a clutch goal from 53m on a 45° angle in the last 90 seconds of the match

Highest goal kicker: Charlie Curnow (5)



Accolades



Brownlow Medal:

Sam Walsh (30 votes)



Norm Smith Medal:

Patrick Cripps (34 disposals, 3 goals)



Coleman Medal:

Charlie Curnow (70 goals)



Team Achievements



Minor Premiers: Brisbane Lions (1st Minor Premiership)



Premiers: Carlton Blues (17th Premiership)



Wooden Spoon: Greater Western Sydney Giants (3rd Wooden Spoon)



Biggest Climber: Brisbane Lions (+5 ladder spots)



Biggest Faller: Western Bulldogs (-5 ladder spots)



(Actual Brownlow: Paddy Dow and Lachlan Plowman tie with 31 votes each)



I did this for a bit of fun, maybe a bit biased since I’m a Carlton supporter but I tried my best. Next year is a hard one to predict, especially this early into the pre-season. Have a good day.

Edit: For context, I did this at one in the morning.
 
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Lachyjack said:
Here are my predictions for the 2023 AFL Season:


The Ladder

  1. Brisbane Lions
  2. Fremantle Dockers
  3. Melbourne Demons
  4. Sydney Swans
  5. Geelong Cats
  6. Collingwood Magpies
  7. Carlton Blues
  8. Gold Coast Suns
  9. St Kilda Saints
  10. Richmond Tigers
  11. Port Adelaide Power
  12. Adelaide Crows
  13. Hawthorn Hawks
  14. Western Bulldogs
  15. Essendon Bombers
  16. West Coast Eagles
  17. North Melbourne Kangaroos
  18. Greater Western Sydney Giants


Finals Week 1

Qualifying Final 1:

Brisbane Lions: 98 (14.14)

Sydney Swans: 93 (14.9)



Elimination Final 1:

Geelong Cats: 110 (16.14)

Gold Coast Suns: 52 (7.10)



Qualifying Final 2:

Fremantle Dockers: 69 (10.9)

Melbourne Demons: 81 (12.9)



Elimination Final 2:

Collingwood Magpies: 75 (11.9)

Carlton Blues: 79 (12.7)

(Jack Silvagni kicks a goal after the siren to win it for Carlton)



Finals Week 2


Semi Final 1:

Sydney Swans: 82 (12.10)

Carlton Blues: 90 (13.12)



Semi Final 2:

Fremantle Dockers: 86 (13.8)

Geelong Cats: 67 (9.13)



Finals Week 3


Preliminary Final 1:

Brisbane Lions: 85 (12.13)

Fremantle Dockers: 84 (12.12)



Preliminary Final 2:

Melbourne Demons: 91 (13.13)

Carlton Blues: 95 (14.11)



Grand Final



QT:

Carlton Blues: 27 (4.3)

Brisbane Lions: 34 (5.4)



HT:

Carlton Blues: 49 (7.7)

Brisbane Lions: 57 (8.9)



3QT:

Carlton Blues: 72 (10.12)

Brisbane Lions: 86 (12.14)



15:00:

Carlton Blues: 78 (11.12)

Brisbane Lions: 87 (12.15)



10:00:

Carlton Blues: 85 (12.13)

Brisbane Lions: 89 (12.17)



5:00:

Carlton Blues: 93 (13.15)

Brisbane Lions: 96 (13.18)



2:00:

Carlton Blues: 99 (14.15)

Brisbane Lions: 103 (14.19)



FT:

Carlton Blues: 105 (15.15)

Brisbane Lions: 103 (14.19)

Charlie Curnow kicks a clutch goal from 53m on a 45° angle in the last 90 seconds of the match

Highest goal kicker: Charlie Curnow (5)



Accolades



Brownlow Medal:

Sam Walsh (30 votes)



Norm Smith Medal:

Patrick Cripps (34 disposals, 3 goals)



Coleman Medal:

Charlie Curnow (70 goals)



Team Achievements



Minor Premiers: Brisbane Lions (1st Minor Premiership)



Premiers: Carlton Blues (17th Premiership)



Wooden Spoon: Greater Western Sydney Giants (3rd Wooden Spoon)



Biggest Climber: Brisbane Lions (+5 ladder spots)



Biggest Faller: Western Bulldogs (-6 ladder spots)



(Actual Brownlow: Paddy Dow and Lachlan Plowman tie with 31 votes each)



I did this for a bit of fun, maybe a bit biased since I’m a Carlton supporter but I tried my best. Next year is a hard one to predict, especially this early into the pre-season. Have a good day.
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Trav 20 said:
Yeah, that won't happen.

Notwithstanding Melbourne's forward issues in 2022 they led the competition in the ''time in front'' statistic, including Geelong, with a very impressive 71%.

Geelong were second on 69%, and for perspective Sydney were 52% and Collingwood 48%.

Imagine if they fix their forward connection, which will be a huge focus in 2023.
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How will they fix their ‘forward connection”? They won’t miss the 8, but they have come back to the Comp.
 
Romeoh1 said:
How will they fix their ‘forward connection”? They won’t miss the 8, but they have come back to the Comp.
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System, ball movement, personnel.

In the H&A season Melbourne led the competition for the percentage of time being ahead in games. Geelong was second.

So even with issues forward of centre, they still had a lot going right.

I'll back them to fix it. Understandably, you not so much.
 
1. Carlton
2. Melbourne
3. Geelong
4. Richmond
5. Brisbane
6. Collingwood
7. Sydney
8. Port
9. WB
10. Adelaide
11. Fremantle
12. Gold Coast
13. Essendon
14. GWS
15. WC
16. Hawthorn
17. St Kilda
18. North Melbourne

Wouldn’t be surprised if 14 teams are close next season. Ill do it again after trades are done
 
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