Prediction The Very early 2023 Ladder Predictions

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timokane

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2017-2020 was tiger times. Apart for 2018 in which richmond should have won it in 2018 as well.

These times are over.

I feel 2021 and 2022 are tranistional times or a transitional era bit like 2016 when it was just after the Hawks 3 peat years and before tiger times.

But instead of 1 year 2016 its 2 years 2021 and 2022.

I can not see a dynasty for Melbourne though even though they won in 2021 and had another good year in 2022 just cant see it and Geelong will be getting old and on far too much in 2023.

2023 i see as the first year since 2020 we start to see the real next era or dynasty.

Im not sure on which team as yet.

i have these as the possible next big things as in the next big dynasty.

I know i will have plenty of people disagree with me but I think its Collingwood.

To be honest they have now thier house in order at least and at last.

united group there as well.

New and refreshed footy department and of course a strong and huge supporter base means huge membership means they can afford to invest into a successfull and well run footy department.

So I have Collingwood.

As said it might not happen in 2023 but if not 2024 if not that 2025 but sooner or later they will win a flag.

Just have to happen something will crack they will win the flag. Just needs a good run and they are there.

Another team i like are these 3:

Sydney Swans,
Freemantle

For the interstate teams.

As in the Vic teams i have:

Carlton yes the blues are due same as Pies they still have a big supporter base and they too have got their house in order as well.
Saint Kilda are starting to do good things and now Lyon is back i can see them rise again.
I have a feeling that North under Clarkson will be a riser.
As said Richmond and Geelong have 1 more year left in them as been a truly good teams and in 2024 the cliff is all thiers. Still play in finals in 2023. Bit of a last chance soloon.

Theres not much to write home about for the Vic teams to be honest i feel we could see a nice run of interstate premierships this decade as well.

I feel we could see up to 3 years in a row of the flag been outside Victoria.

it would not surprise me.

I can see this new Tassie team to make finals in its first year as well when ever a tassie team plays in the afl.

By the end of this decade i can see the Suns and possibly GWS to exit the AFL comp more so Suns.

its will be an interesting decade the 2020s.
 

Dangerousfield

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2017-2020 was tiger times. Apart for 2018 in which richmond should have won it in 2018 as well.

These times are over.

I feel 2021 and 2022 are tranistional times or a transitional era bit like 2016 when it was just after the Hawks 3 peat years and before tiger times.

But instead of 1 year 2016 its 2 years 2021 and 2022.

I can not see a dynasty for Melbourne though even though they won in 2021 and had another good year in 2022 just cant see it and Geelong will be getting old and on far too much in 2023.

2023 i see as the first year since 2020 we start to see the real next era or dynasty.

Im not sure on which team as yet.

i have these as the possible next big things as in the next big dynasty.

I know i will have plenty of people disagree with me but I think its Collingwood.

To be honest they have now thier house in order at least and at last.

united group there as well.

New and refreshed footy department and of course a strong and huge supporter base means huge membership means they can afford to invest into a successfull and well run footy department.

So I have Collingwood.

As said it might not happen in 2023 but if not 2024 if not that 2025 but sooner or later they will win a flag.

Just have to happen something will crack they will win the flag. Just needs a good run and they are there.

Another team i like are these 3:

Sydney Swans,
Freemantle

For the interstate teams.

As in the Vic teams i have:

Carlton yes the blues are due same as Pies they still have a big supporter base and they too have got their house in order as well.
Saint Kilda are starting to do good things and now Lyon is back i can see them rise again.
I have a feeling that North under Clarkson will be a riser.
As said Richmond and Geelong have 1 more year left in them as been a truly good teams and in 2024 the cliff is all thiers. Still play in finals in 2023. Bit of a last chance soloon.

Theres not much to write home about for the Vic teams to be honest i feel we could see a nice run of interstate premierships this decade as well.

I feel we could see up to 3 years in a row of the flag been outside Victoria.

it would not surprise me.

I can see this new Tassie team to make finals in its first year as well when ever a tassie team plays in the afl.

By the end of this decade i can see the Suns and possibly GWS to exit the AFL comp more so Suns.

its will be an interesting decade the 2020s.
FMD, this drivel appears in two threads!

Yes, we all agree Collingwood are the next dynasty team, Pendles will be the oldest flag captain on history - on multiple occasions. Now go away
 

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Falcon3518

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2017-2020 was tiger times. Apart for 2018 in which richmond should have won it in 2018 as well.

These times are over.

I feel 2021 and 2022 are tranistional times or a transitional era bit like 2016 when it was just after the Hawks 3 peat years and before tiger times.

But instead of 1 year 2016 its 2 years 2021 and 2022.

I can not see a dynasty for Melbourne though even though they won in 2021 and had another good year in 2022 just cant see it and Geelong will be getting old and on far too much in 2023.

2023 i see as the first year since 2020 we start to see the real next era or dynasty.

Im not sure on which team as yet.

i have these as the possible next big things as in the next big dynasty.

I know i will have plenty of people disagree with me but I think its Collingwood.

To be honest they have now thier house in order at least and at last.

united group there as well.

New and refreshed footy department and of course a strong and huge supporter base means huge membership means they can afford to invest into a successfull and well run footy department.

So I have Collingwood.

As said it might not happen in 2023 but if not 2024 if not that 2025 but sooner or later they will win a flag.

Just have to happen something will crack they will win the flag. Just needs a good run and they are there.

Another team i like are these 3:

Sydney Swans,
Freemantle

For the interstate teams.

As in the Vic teams i have:

Carlton yes the blues are due same as Pies they still have a big supporter base and they too have got their house in order as well.
Saint Kilda are starting to do good things and now Lyon is back i can see them rise again.
I have a feeling that North under Clarkson will be a riser.
As said Richmond and Geelong have 1 more year left in them as been a truly good teams and in 2024 the cliff is all thiers. Still play in finals in 2023. Bit of a last chance soloon.

Theres not much to write home about for the Vic teams to be honest i feel we could see a nice run of interstate premierships this decade as well.

I feel we could see up to 3 years in a row of the flag been outside Victoria.

it would not surprise me.

I can see this new Tassie team to make finals in its first year as well when ever a tassie team plays in the afl.

By the end of this decade i can see the Suns and possibly GWS to exit the AFL comp more so Suns.

its will be an interesting decade the 2020s.

Yeah nah, Richmond is going again. We’ve rebuilt on the run and looking to extend the dynasty to 4 flags

Just so you know Collingwood is old af. 10 of your best 22 will be 30-35 by the end of 2023. Good luck with the dynasty lol.


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Football Tragic

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If you look at it without bias, Richmond was the team that turned its greatest weakness into a strength over the trade period. Our contested ball and center square numbers have always been our Achilles Heel during the past 5 years and with the new 6-6-6 rule, that part of the game has never been more important. Bringing in two quality midfielders may not make our midfield the best in the league but it certainly goes a long way to correct this deficiency.

Based on that alone and the quality of the rest of the positional lines, you would predict that Richmond moves up the ladder in 2023. You may pray that doesn't occur but on the weight of numbers, and without a possible avalanche of injuries, it is more likely to occur than not.
 

Falcon3518

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If you look at it without bias, Richmond was the team that turned its greatest weakness into a strength over the trade period. Our contested ball and center square numbers have always been our Achilles Heel during the past 5 years and with the new 6-6-6 rule, that part of the game has never been more important. Bringing in two quality midfielders may not make our midfield the best in the league but it certainly goes a long way to correct this deficiency.

Based on that alone and the quality of the rest of the positional lines, you would predict that Richmond moves up the ladder in 2023. You may pray that doesn't occur but on the weight of numbers, and without a possible avalanche of injuries, it is more likely to occur than not.

I don’t see how we don’t improve from last year with the recruits we got in including Rutton who is a great defensive coach. The betting markets have us at 3rd favourites for a reason. But some people on here have us finishing outside the 8 lol. Just manifestation imo.


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Art Vandelay_

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The AFL will hand premiers Geelong a back-ended schedule of home games with the new-look 40,000-seat stadium likely to be complete as late as June next year.

Geelong chief executive Steve Hocking said the fifth stage of the GMHBA Stadium development would be a massive fillip for the local community and allow the ground to host more events like March’s Foo Fighters concert.

But the builders have given a May or June 2023 finish date which means the Cats would again be at heavily restricted capacity if they played early-season home games there.

It means the league will work with the AFL on a fixture that the Cats hope will include nine GMHBA Stadium games late in the year and two MCG games against Victorian powerhouse teams.

Geelong is yet to decide whether it will unfurl its premiership flag at GMHBA Stadium or do it early at the MCG.



Big wait and see on us, if we're within touching distance of top 4 at the bye then expect us to come home with a wet sail with lots of home games.
Will make the first half of the season hard as you'd assume there'd be a lot of away games.
 

juss

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Richmond can make top 4 if absolutely everything goes their way, but I think they'll end up 5th-6th.
We're a top 4 contender for sure. And a side with that much winning finals experience that makes the top 4, will be a flag contender comes finals. Mind you that being a contender doesn't guarantee anything, like you said, you still need things to go your way with injuries, form, luck at the right time, etc. We lead in the 4th quarter in 21/23 games in 2022, and the other 2 games we lead in the 3rd quarter, so Richmond are around the mark with any team in the comp on their day.

Our biggest weakness we addressed in the trade period. A lot of our 2023 fortunes will depend on Hopper and Taranto. Only time will tell how they fit in and what impact they make. I'd be very surprised if we didn't improve in 2023 though (a good injury run dependent).
 

Hank Heavenly

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1 - Brisbane
2 - Geelong
3 - Richmond
4 - Fremantle
5 - Melbourne
6 - Carlton
7 - Sydney
8 - Gold Coast
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9 - Collingwood
10 - Bulldogs
11 - St Kilda
12 - Adelaide
13 - Pt Adelaide
14 - GWS
15 - Essendon
16 - West Coast
17 - Hawthorn
18 - Nth Melb
 

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Cool Kangas

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Although there is just one game left in Season 2022, will we see another thrilling 2023 Season? Find out with my very early Ladder predictions for Season 2023:


1. Sydney
2. Brisbane
3. Collingwood
4. Melbourne
5. Geelong
6. St Kilda
7. Fremantle
8. Carlton
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9. Port Adelaide
10. Western Bulldogs
11. Gold Coast
12. Richmond
13. Hawthorn
14. Greater Western Sydney
15. Adelaide
16. West Coast
17. North Melbourne
18. Essendon
I personally don’t see hawthorn finishing that high.
 

AlwaysHawks15

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Adelaide
Essendon
West Coast
North Melbourne
GWS
Credit for putting us about where I think we will finish. Were not as bad as people are assuming on here. We were carried by the younger crop this year people weren't paying much attention clearly. Gunston is the guy we will miss certainly not the others. Expect a similar finish to this year than last year.
 

aussierulesrules

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Credit for putting us about where I think we will finish. Were not as bad as people are assuming on here. We were carried by the younger crop this year people weren't paying much attention clearly. Gunston is the guy we will miss certainly not the others. Expect a similar finish to this year than last year.
If you’re at full strength perhaps you won’t be as bad as some are predicting, but what if you have a moderate to significant amount of injuries?

You’ve already lost battle-hardened and experienced guys who played 21, 21, 16 and 13 games this year, so you’ll have to replace them in the team with those that have less experience, and then when you get injuries on top of that, you’re going to be exposing even more very young and/or inexperienced guys.

That’s when you’ll be super-vulnerable.

You’re also going into the season with what is possibly the worst/least accomplished midfield on paper of any team this century.
 
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BigVic

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Can’t wait to see the 2030 ladder with Eagles in the top 4, Hawthorn finals contenders and North being good. Richmond back to irrelevancy
 

Hank Heavenly

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Can’t wait to see the 2030 ladder with Eagles in the top 4, Hawthorn finals contenders and North being good. Richmond back to irrelevancy
Collingwood still losing Grand Finals then too?
 

AlwaysHawks15

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If you’re at full strength perhaps you won’t be as bad as some are predicting, but what if you have a moderate to significant amount of injuries?

You’ve already lost battle-hardened and experienced guys who played 21, 21, 16 and 13 games this year, so you’ll have to replace them in the team with those that have less experience, and then when you get injuries on top of that, you’re going to be exposing even more very young and/or inexperienced guys.

That’s when you’ll be super-vulnerable.

You’re also going into the season with what is possibly the worst/least accomplished midfield on paper of any team this century.
We were smashed with injuries this year. We had no rucks at one point and players like CJ, Wingard and Lewis for eg missed several matches. Worpel likewise missed the last half of the year pretty much. Reeves missed a bit of footy the list goes on. We have strengthened the ruck department and our backline has alot of depth. We have also just drafted and traded for 2 guys who will slot straight into the midfield (Stephens and McKenzie). Sure there not JOM or Mitchell as of yet but we already have Newcombe in there who surpassed both in terms of impact. There's guys that will spend a fair bit of time through the midfield ontop of that (Dylan Moore, Josh Ward and Will Day) so your call of the worst this century is just an over exaggeration. Pretty sure GWS and Gold Coast in their first years had worse. If Mitchell was worried about experience and leadership he would have kept a few guys we said see you later to on the list. Clearly he feels there's enough there ATM to work with and be fine moving forward.
 

growly

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After the last two nights if anyone wants to go ahead and start a 2026 Ladder predictor you just know Adelaide sit 16 points clear at the top. Pew pew mother*ers. #wonthedraft
I agree I expect chelsea Randall to continue to lead the team well and the team is filled with good quality young players you should continue to be near the top of the aflw for a while
 

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