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I meant the poster.....
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the war on drugs: is it time we admit what we're all thinking?
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I've smoked pot all my life so can concede a bias here, but in the age where our government is desperately looking for new revenue streams, that nobody is even talking about legalising and taxing weed is just madness. It's a free kick for any government, the only people who'll really care are the perpetual hand wringers, those that smoke will be able to do so legally and those that don't can continue not to.
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The war on Drugs = The war on terror.....Both government creations & a total facade for the govt policy of rationalizing full control on both to maximize income streams & manipulation of the masses through fear & intimidation.
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The important thing is that you just continue to do it anyway.
Sometimes, breaking the law is the right choice to make, even if only for the sake of protesting an oppressive law..
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Wouldn't be too hard either, already have the framework for selling tobacco and alcohol. So have licences for companies to grow commercial quantities of marijuana (also creating jobs), make companies get a licence to sell marijuana similar to alcohol and tobacco. Allow people to have two plants for personal use as well.
So you'd have money from licences as well as tax on marijuana being sold. I'd imagine crime rates would drop (pretty sure they have everywhere else it's been legalised).
For selling have the same rules as tobacco/alcohol, so over the age of 18, look under the age of 25 and you need to show photo ID, massive fines for anyone caught breaking the law/revoking of licences. Also because you're still smoking have the same restrictions on where you can smoke the same as tobacco (maybe even make it illegal in all public spaces for marijuana).
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Is it still a war? If you want to take them take them.
But don't do it in foreign countries where you don't know the law.
But don't do it in foreign countries where you don't know the law.
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I'd rather the government not tell me what i can and can't put in my body. I'd expect that a vast majority of people have more health concerns related to their input of processed sugar or processed meat. I just want a government with some balls that can maybe pass on an issue without needing every other country to lead the way.
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Perhaps you'd like to ask the people of Afghanistan & Myanmar.....Not to mention the U.S itself, where highly addictive, prescription opioids, are killing people in their droves.
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That's my point. People can take prescription drugs till their hearts content but not illegal and in some cases less harmful substances.
If it ever was a war it has been well and truly lost.
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They use the phony 'war on drugs' banner, as a means to mask the desire for a monopoly on money-making ploys, via regulation & legislation on behalf of the government....It's that simple.
In Portugal, where there is zero government regulation & control there are 3 deaths in every million....In the U.S, where govt controls & regulations are the highest, it's 462 deaths per million....Rocket science it aint.
Much like terrorism....It only became a world-wide phenomenon & problem, once the war upon it began....Mere Orwellian double-speak for the United States justifying it's foreign policy of invasion & tyranny....No one is fooled by it.
I'd like to see it happen but the SSM debacle has just reiterated to me how far behind we are compared to other countries. Proposing to legalise weed to some of the dinosaurs in politics would almost give them a stroke.
It makes a whole lot of sense when you consider that there's going to come a point where tobacco just doesn't make as much as it used to. Surely if cigarettes start pushing two dollars a smoke people will give it up.
Some US states realised what they stood to gain from legalisation. Eventually became mainstream and legalisation came in places like Colorado. Unfortunately here legalising weed is something no mainstream politician seems to have the balls to bring up. It's just tossed to the side and lumped in with some of the radical s**t parties like the Sex Party propose.
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Love this response. She may just be the only sane politician in the country.
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Once the US legalises in all 50 states we'll follow suit. Stand by to stand by...It's the Australian way
Like that's ever going to happen, when their gulags are doing swimmingly full of minor drug offenders working slave wages for max profit....Who said the U.S ever escaped the Deep South....The social regression exhibited over there this century, has been staggering to say the least.....The so-called free-est nation on earth, is now building walls FFS.
I'm in support for the safe injecting rooms too. People are going to use anyway so it may as well be off the streets. I would like to see a two pronged attack though. Have the safe injecting rooms, but also come down with harsher penalties for those who use in public places.
I don't use weed, but I wouldn't have a problem if it's legalised. Out of all the drugs, this is causing the least problems (including something legal like alcohol). Obviously there would have to be strict laws such as driving under the influence, using in public etc if done so.
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An interesting fact is the states that have legalised herbage are raking in the coin hand over fist. Matter of time before the rest follow suit.
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The full extent of the opioid epidemic currently engulfing America.....Big pharma & congress are fully responsible & complicit for it.
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Norway Decriminalizes Drug Use
December 13, 2017
Drug use will no longer be punished, but treated in Norway. The majority in the Storting (Norwegian Parliament) aggrees on the historic transformation of Norwegian drug policy.
– The majority will stop punishing people who struggle, but instead give them help and treatment,” said Nicolas Wilkinson, SV’s health spokesman in the Parliament to VG.
Labor Party (Ap), Conservatives (Høyre), Socialist Left (SV) and Liberals (Venstre) supported the proposal.
Wilkinson says it’s a march order to the government to shift the first-line reaction to drug addicts from the courtroom to the health service.
Not legalization
– It is important to emphasize that we do not legalize cannabis and other drugs, but we decriminalize,” said Sveinung Stensland (Høyre), deputy chairman of the Storting Health Committee.
In February, the Health Committee in the Storting will have a study trip to Portugal, which has implemented a similar reform with decriminalization.
https://www.tnp.no/norway/panorama/norway-decriminalize-drug
December 13, 2017
Drug use will no longer be punished, but treated in Norway. The majority in the Storting (Norwegian Parliament) aggrees on the historic transformation of Norwegian drug policy.
– The majority will stop punishing people who struggle, but instead give them help and treatment,” said Nicolas Wilkinson, SV’s health spokesman in the Parliament to VG.
Labor Party (Ap), Conservatives (Høyre), Socialist Left (SV) and Liberals (Venstre) supported the proposal.
Wilkinson says it’s a march order to the government to shift the first-line reaction to drug addicts from the courtroom to the health service.
Not legalization
– It is important to emphasize that we do not legalize cannabis and other drugs, but we decriminalize,” said Sveinung Stensland (Høyre), deputy chairman of the Storting Health Committee.
In February, the Health Committee in the Storting will have a study trip to Portugal, which has implemented a similar reform with decriminalization.
https://www.tnp.no/norway/panorama/norway-decriminalize-drug
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Not to mention how useful hemp is as a cash crop - one acre of hemp produces a similar amount of paper product to 4-5 acres of pine plantation.
Fibre & cloth production from hemp would also provide a useful side industry.
Not to mention if you see people fighting at 2am on a Saturday morning I can guarantee they are far more likely to be drunk than stoned.
Saw a proposal in the paper a while ago that suggested the Holden factory be turned into a marijuana processing plant if some kind. Could have raked in ridiculous amounts of money for SA and employed many of those workers who had no job left after Holden shut down. Reckon that will happen? Of course not. Half of SA is stoned off its face at any given time, but Nah, can't have pot legal. That would be.... I dunno. Really don't.
How else could you cope with living in SA
The King George Whiting are around 2cm bigger over there too. Which is about their only saving grace.
