Analysis THE "WE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN SPP" TEARS THREAD

SPP or DV, there can be only one Dustin Martin

  • SPP - Has more campaigner than he knows what to do with

    Votes: 71 33.2%
  • DV - Plays like Luke Shuey mixed with Michael Gardiner.

    Votes: 75 35.0%
  • Jack Watts is the one true king.

    Votes: 68 31.8%

  • Total voters
    214

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Dark Sharks

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Better pick than Venables? Probably. Not that difficult when Venners is dead.

Better pick than Galucci? Yes



Better than Berry? No sir.

Ironically we were all petrified we might get English, and he would've been a very good selection.
 

HoneyBadger35

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Aug 11, 2011
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Hard pass. Port extending his deal doesn’t move the needle on him.

Can’t knock Venables just because his career has been derailed by one head injury. Not like we drafted a guy with bad knees who then did his knee, this was a one off freak accident. Venables was showing good signs.

SPP in a game style that requires you to hit a target by foot would have been something to behold.
 

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Dark Sharks

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To be fair, Cockburn still cop plenty of flack for selecting Pitt instead of Darling.

Pitt played 10 games in his first year before retiring due to his serious heart irregularity at the start of his second season.

Got even less of a look than Venners did.
 

Wadsworth

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Jul 21, 2015
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To be fair, Cockburn still cop plenty of flack for selecting Pitt instead of Darling.

Pitt played 10 games in his first year before retiring due to his serious heart irregularity at the start of his second season.

Got even less of a look than Venners did.
Since when did fairness ever come into bagging the Dockers and standing up for the F*cken Coasters?

Freo shat the bed drafting Pitt over Darling. West Coast followed a sound process and was unlucky in the results when drafting Venners.
 

Yamumluvsbigcox

Norm Smith Medallist
Oct 22, 2012
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To be fair, Cockburn still cop plenty of flack for selecting Pitt instead of Darling.

Pitt played 10 games in his first year before retiring due to his serious heart irregularity at the start of his second season.

Got even less of a look than Venners did.
Venners did get a good look at a premiership cup from up close .
 

Yamumluvsbigcox

Norm Smith Medallist
Oct 22, 2012
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Since when did fairness ever come into bagging the Dockers and standing up for the F*cken Coasters?

Freo shat the bed drafting Pitt over Darling. West Coast followed a sound process and was unlucky in the results when drafting Venners.
Ha ha we hid darling and perpetuated rumours of off field issues.

I've heard rumours his parents answered the phone saying he was out drinking with his mates when recruiters called .

And we all remember the tent incident.

That was 400 goals ago .

Good times
 

Dark Sharks

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Since when did fairness ever come into bagging the Dockers and standing up for the F*cken Coasters?

Freo shat the bed drafting Pitt over Darling. West Coast followed a sound process and was unlucky in the results when drafting Venners.

Lol Pitt was very highly rated. Most expected him to go to GCS before pick 10 and he slid to Cockburns pick 20.

190cm with elite footskills from memory.

Venners did get a good look at a premiership cup from up close .
I honestly think Peter Bell (Roos) is about the only person in the entire Cockburn organisation that has ever touched a premiership cup.

JL? No.
None of their squad have...
Pavlich hasn't (Ahahaa)


Perhaps if Lecras was still a part time goal kicking coach?
 

Bleedblueandgold

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Oct 9, 2009
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To be fair before the concussion it's not as if the general opinion of DV was that high particularly due to his performance in the GF and his inability to accumulate possessions given he was drafted as a mid and had some early comparisons to Shuey.
Felt like his reputation grew post-concussion.
I personally saw plenty of positives in his game but he just needed to figure out how to get his hands on the ball more.
 

Rowan18

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Feb 20, 2018
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Better pick than Venables? Probably. Not that difficult when Venners is dead.

Better pick than Galucci? Yes



Better than Berry? No sir.

Ironically we were all petrified we might get English, and he would've been a very good selection.
Berry is a gun.

English still needs to prove himself to me. Can run around getting a bunch of cheap possessions but is garbage at actual ruckwork. If that's what you want, then just play an actual midfielder.
 

Happy Mastenator

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Apr 16, 2010
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To be fair before the concussion it's not as if the general opinion of DV was that high particularly due to his performance in the GF and his inability to accumulate possessions given he was drafted as a mid and had some early comparisons to Shuey.
Felt like his reputation grew post-concussion.
I personally saw plenty of positives in his game but he just needed to figure out how to get his hands on the ball more.
Based almost purely on his hair...
 

flamingEMBERS

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Sep 8, 2011
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English is a spud.

Venables, gee it’s almost as though his inconsistencies were down to being 19-20. Venables had the talent. Had shown glimpses in games. Was no spud like others on the list. Was building a good base to burst probably this year or ‘21. Such a shame. I’m still holding hope
 

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KBLT

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In all likelihood Venners is done. Still would've taken him over SPP, though.

If a miracle happens and Venners plays again, if he doesn't have any mental issues form this, he still has a chance to be a very good player. And even if he doesn't, he still has a premiership to his name.
 

Dark Sharks

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English is going to be one of the most valuable players in the game in a few years IMO.


All he has to do is fix getting his hands on the ball more for hitouts, and that's literally it. He's still a huge man with a decent leap at the CBD's.

It's his only weakness right now, and given he's only just learning ruck craft and was a midfielder up until a few years ago, it's understandable.
 

Happy Mastenator

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English is going to be one of the most valuable players in the game in a few years IMO.


All he has to do is fix getting his hands on the ball more for hitouts, and that's literally it. He's still a huge man with a decent leap at the CBD's.

It's his only weakness right now, and given he's only just learning ruck craft and was a midfielder up until a few years ago, it's understandable.
Agreed.

Biggest issue is he’s just not strong enough. That can be fixed with time. he’ll never be a monster but just needs to gain enough not to be monstered.
 

Rowan18

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English is going to be one of the most valuable players in the game in a few years IMO.


All he has to do is fix getting his hands on the ball more for hitouts, and that's literally it. He's still a huge man with a decent leap at the CBD's.

It's his only weakness right now, and given he's only just learning ruck craft and was a midfielder up until a few years ago, it's understandable.
So, all he has to do is actually learn to be a ruckman :tearsofjoy:
 

06Premiers

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I honestly think Peter Bell (Roos) is about the only person in the entire Cockburn organisation that has ever touched a premiership cup.

JL? No.
None of their squad have...
Pavlich hasn't (Ahahaa)


Perhaps if Lecras was still a part time goal kicking coach?
That's a bit unfair on old big nose!
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Never has one man looked so confused........
 

southcoast

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Lol Pitt was very highly rated. Most expected him to go to GCS before pick 10 and he slid to Cockburns pick 20.

190cm with elite footskills from memory.



I honestly think Peter Bell (Roos) is about the only person in the entire Cockburn organisation that has ever touched a premiership cup.

JL? No.
None of their squad have...
Pavlich hasn't (Ahahaa)


Perhaps if Lecras was still a part time goal kicking coach?
David Hale?


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