Current The Western Australian Current Trials Thread

Discussion in 'Crime' started by Mike__, Jan 24, 2017.

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    This will be interesting, only a month away. Wonder how it will pan out with the state relying on witness statements from people who have since died, that could be a problem and maybe one of the reasons why Wark's chosen judge only trial.
     
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    Thinking this is a dress rehearsal for the CSK trial.
     
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    Very much so. How much interest in Wark has there been in WA does anybody know? I'm wondering how much coverage there will be.
     
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    CSK had outshone this one... and he has been cooling his heels waiting for court proceedings.

    Rayney update :
    http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...y/news-story/5784d147fb9256572c2a2be55a31dbe7
    This information confirms to me that sometimes some individuals need a good shaking.
     
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    "
    In 2009, Mr Casilli said he travelled to New South Wales to interview Lacco.

    The court was told a search of his home found a map of Kings Park, a diagram of the layout of the Supreme Court, where Mrs Rayney worked, and page torn out of a calendar from August 2007.

    Mr Casilli said when asked about the items, Lacco told him he "had an interest" in the Supreme Court building and had once worked at Kings Park."

    How could Rayney, in light of this be the ONLY suspect? Has there been any investigation into the history of Rayney prosecuting either of these two, Lacco and Eades or any of their associates?
     
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    I know! The total focus was on Lloyd Rayney and barely any of these details were reported in the press. Dixie Marshall (ch9 news) was a friend of Corryn and she focussed on the husband angle to the point of obsession.
     
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    Sounds really suspicious doesn't it. Planned. Revenge on Mr Rayney via kiilling his wife? Organised hit by Mr Rayney? Hit not involving Mr Rayney and Corryn got involved with something or someone she shouldn't? So many variables.

    Edit: for those not familiar with Kings Park, it is about 4km square (1003 acres) of mainly bush and naturally managed botanical gardens sitting on top of Mount Eliza in the centre of Perth. Below Kings Park is the river and the city centre. It contains war memorials, some beautiful touristy walk trails, a cafe, a nice restaurant, adventure play grounds and grasslands but it is still a huge chunk of carefully protected thick bushland.
     
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    Incredible that Marshall was allowed to use her influence in the press to steer a murder investigation especially when the public's been locked out of getting any information at all on a serial killer. Information that we're entitled to.
     
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    What 'entitles' us? What information are we missing out on? It will all come out eventually. The basis of many trials is a free and open showing of evidence and defence. To pre-empt any of that before trial is silly.

    Patience Padawan ;)
     
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    I think Shelly is talking about Rayney... and we are only hearing a good chunk of this now, after he was acquitted and is suing everyone.

    One question I had after reading the detectives statement was this: why would a detective, investigating a murder, have to 'take it upon himself' to investigate a possible POI? Would that not be a standard avenue of investigation?
     
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    I'm trying :p

    Taxpayers are entitled to everything actually, the transparency I'm not sure we're going to get under willy nilly arbitrary suppression orders ... you know how it goes and the gag orders on anybody involved in the MACRO investigation. WApol were more than willing over the years to use the press and the public to publicly condemn two innocent men, I call that outrageous 'entitlement' now they withold and deny the public any good information they're supposed to have
     
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    Crikies! Little wonder the judge a tad upset.
    Who should be sacked over the investigation?
    Read about the criminal threats. its in post links a couple of thread pages back.
    Second most dangerous criminal in WA?

    The DPP prosecutor and a secretary of the Supreme court. Why would criminals want them done over?
     
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    "Martin that the person whose DNA was found on the cigarette butt had the same surname - Eades - as the driver of a car which was stopped by Kensington police in Manning at about 9.10pm on August 7, 2007, the night Mrs Rayney was last seen alive."
    http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...p/news-story/7fc68d876c7a1ed0a03a6044bbf3faf0

    "During his trial, the court heard Mr Lacco was living with another man whose DNA matched a cigarette butt found on a footpath outside the Rayneys' home."
    http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/w...-to-corryn-rayney-murder-20150621-ghtjyx.html

    "The court was previously told Lacco had threatened that he would “die a mass murderer” and that “Lloyd Rayney gets it first” in a written complaint to the Corruption and Crime Commission last September."
    http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...t/news-story/77f287d3c20c8fbc550cae822897dfd5
     
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    Rayneys telephone guy who was police IT guy id investigated ove dexi sales to DOCEP government department staff which is often a drug used by meth addicts.
    Man in investigation sells drugs in area of Corryn line dancing centre.
    What bloody palaver!
     
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    This is all so bad it's really scary
     
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    Hope we don't see Lloyd Rayney type deal shenanigans at BRE's trial. Pearson, Rayney's phone tap man aside from being investigated over dexi sales also had child porn in his computer. He wasn't charged with possession of said child pornography "..... because the defence he provided was plausible and it was considered the prospect of a conviction was 'very slim'." There's a defence for possession of child pornography, who knew?

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-22/lloyd-rayney-defamation-case-hears-from-craig-carter/8377952
     
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    Ask Pete Townsend
     
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    Anything to convict their man. This is just mind boggling. Sell dex? Sure, we will sweep that under the carpet. Kiddie porn? No worries, we will turn the other cheek, as long as you testify against Rayney.
     
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    This isn't what justice should look like.
     
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    There are several. Most commonly it's that the said images are found only as deleted files and the person comes up with some reason such as someone sent them to him, and when he opened them and saw what they were he deleted them immediately. Or that they are from a website he visited, and says he closed as soon as he saw what was there. Probably bullshit, but prove otherwise.
     
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    There would be evidence of his actions. Whoever sent the emails would be charged.
     
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    I suppose someone who works for WApol would be aware of those reasons as a defence but would also be required to report it
     
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    I can see the Claremont case going judge only. It was always said that LW would be judge only case because the case was so high profile.

    A judge only trial would mean the public don't see the more intricate evidence of the case? More chance the medias version of events?
     
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    Im sure I read that Julie Cutlers car seat had been removed? Maybe this was to prevent the vehicle floating? I doubt the seat would have made its way out the window. Someone with some knowledge of vehicles. Ex surf club. Robyn Paton SANTEN was ex clubby. Someone was a clubby? Used to driving in sand?

    Obviously, the car being tossed around in the surf dented the vehicle up considerably. Just bobbing up and down would have flattened. It was winter solstice. In the thick of it.

    No doubt when the car went down the ramp, it would have hit the water and all the lights come as the electrics earthed. It would be interesting to see if the tyres had been deflated and the vehicle drive into the surf via the surf club ramp.

    Cigarette butts in the ash tray. Julies uniform left at Kings kebab cafe. Kings park Rayney. What next.

    It would be cool to see the vehicle report.

    In late May or early June, Julie rang her father to report an alarming incident in which she had been driving home in her Fiat sedan from work along the Stirling Highway.
    Julie told her father, Roger, that a car had followed her closely for several kilometres along Stirling Highway, almost touching her rear bumper at times and seemed to be trying to force her off the road.
    As she approached a turn-off in the beach side suburb of Cottesloe, the car pulled alongside and then suddenly veered in front of her. Ms Cutler swerved around it and sped away, later reporting the incident to police.
    http://www.news.com.au/news/vanishe...g/news-story/1f9da6564bf58fdfb6f6532c5e7b5d2f
     
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