81What was our clubs final tally?
Bubble of excellence = 59
Rest of team = 22
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81What was our clubs final tally?
Watched the Brownlow with a Saints fan who remembers that when the Saints played Carlton Jack Steele kept Cripps to twenty touches while getting 25 himself. Yet he got the 3 votes, extraordinary.
It’s as if, after some games, the umps (no doubt exhausted from all the running, shouting and whistling) when handed the voting paper, fill in the name of someone they know who generally plays well, or who stood out once or twice for some specific reason. Ah well.
And people, it’s “Fyfe didn’t have that good a season “, not “good of a season”.
You’re welcome.
Umps vote as play unfolds. Coaches take a broader view. Coaches voted Bont as best. Fyfe is a serious gun though. Both awards are a legit fair call.
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I'll never give up on the thought that the 3 should be reserved for the winning team if the game is won by more than 4 goals, unless there are extremely exceptional circumstances. I still remember Ablett polling 3 in a +90pt loss to Coll while at the Suns. Surely there is one player in the winning 22 who is more deserving of 3 votes in those cases.
#Rorted
Agree 100 per cent. Call me crazy but if your team gets hammered or loses enough games to get your coach sacked, there’s no way you should have 33 votes by Round 21.
Too many umpires with stars in their eyes. Surely if you’re an umpire you have to ask yourself who had the biggest influence on the outcome of the game? That’s the player who should get 3.
If a side is beaten maybe a player gets 1 or 2, but 3s by players in beaten and thrashed sides should be very rare.
2019:
Bontempelli 22
Macrae 22
Dunkley 15
Naughton 7
Hunter 5
Daniel 3
Wallis 2
Dale 2
Schache 1
English 1
Johannisen 1
2018:
Macrae 14
Hunter 9
Bontempelli 9
Dunkley 4
Johannisen 3
Suckling 2
McLean 2
Gowers 2
Daniel 1
Williams 1
2017:
Bontempelli 19
Macrae 8
Johannisen 7
Dahlhaus 6
Picken 3
Stringer 3
Hunter 2
Biggs (NF) 1
Daniel 1
McLean 1
2016:
Bontempelli 20
Hunter 13
Johannisen 10
Dahlhaus 7
Stevens 6
Wallis 5
Picken 4
Stringer 4
Biggs (NF) 3
Wood 3
M. Boyd 2
Adams 2
Liberatore 1
Macrae 1
Go back 2 pages. Post #120.What was our clubs final tally?
Bubble of excellence 59 votes versus whole teams:
Bubble 59 defeated Sydney 53
Bubble 59 defeated St Kilda 53
Bubble 59 defeated Melbourne 47
Bubble 59 defeated Gold Coast 22
Bubble 59 defeated Essendon 58
Bubble 59 defeated Adelaide 53
The Bubble Of Excellence is real:
Macrae: 22 Votes, in 12 Games, for 9 Wins.
Bontempelli: 22 Votes, in 9 Games, for 6 Wins
Dunkley: 15 Votes, in 6 Games, for 6 Wins
Dunkley joined the bubble late,
Which was quite a sin,
For once he joined the bubble,
All we could do was win.
(Except when we lost of course)
Comment AbsurdMacrae as many votes as Bont. Absurd.
Macrae voted in 12 GamesComment Absurd
I'm aching now - had to do the hardest thing ever and hand over $20 to a former umpire because Cripps polled more than Bont….
I'm calling collusion - he still speaks to the other umps. 4 measly votes and Cripps got all those s**t votes in losing games...I have had some very earnest discussion around how umps cast their votes in games today..its a rort
No problem with Cripps polling well- he deserved it.
My problem with him is a player is his poor disposal efficiency- would love to see his goal assists stats vs Bont.
Marcus Bontempelli: 127 Games, 91 Goal Assists.No problem with Cripps polling well- he deserved it.
My problem with him is a player is his poor disposal efficiency- would love to see his goal assists stats vs Bont.
No problem with Cripps polling well- he deserved it.
My problem with him is a player is his poor disposal efficiency- would love to see his goal assists stats vs Bont.
Geelong's effort was more surprising - 24 and 27 votes to their top 2. Have 2 players from the one club ever racked up 50+ votes in a season before?*With 22 votes apiece, Macrae and Bontempelli have established a new record for two teammates polling the same amount of Brownlow votes on the one night. The previous record was 19 each by Jonathon Brown and Simon Black for Brisbane Lions in 2009.
Geelong's effort was more surprising - 24 and 27 votes to their top 2. Have 2 players from the one club ever racked up 50+ votes in a season before?*
*Obviously apart from the two years in the 1970s when they awarded double the number of votes (3-2-1 from each of 2 central umpires).
Goals Assist
Bont - 21 ( Macrae 22)
Cripps - 6
Score involvements
Bont - 7 pg
Cripps - 5 pg
Inside 50s
Bont - 123
Cripps- 62 ( probably because he handballs so much)
Clearances
Bont - 139
Cripps - 170
What Cripps is rightly praised for but this amounts to 2 more than Bont per game. Not a big diff.
Contested/Uncontested ratio
Bont- 287/338
Cripps - 340/225
I like Bonts balance better. Good in the contest but more uncontested means more freedom to go inside 50 and be more directly involved in assists and involvements. Cripps fans praise him for being a contested beast but doing so much contributes to a lot of handballs.
Kick/handball ratio
Bont- 347/259
Cripps - 212/348
Prefer to see Bont kick for impact than Cripps shovel it out to someone not as good as him
Disposal efficiency
Bont - 68%
Cripps - 73%
Bont takes risks with kicks. Cripps has more effective handballs that hit target over shorter distance
Scores
Bont- 15.27 (42 scores)
Cripps- 13.6 (19 scores)
Bonts biggest flaw but 42 shots ( not counting complete misses) is a positive that can be fixed. Cripps has set a goal to score more.
Time on ground
Bont 84%
Cripps 90%
Cripps is needed on ground more and in the midfield more.
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