The worst premiership coach since 2000

Worst Premiership coach from 2000-2017

  • 2000 Kevin Sheedy

    Votes: 12 2.4%
  • 2001, 2002, 2003 Leigh Matthews

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • 2004 Mark Williams

    Votes: 30 6.1%
  • 2005 Paul Roos

    Votes: 23 4.7%
  • 2006 John Worsfold

    Votes: 23 4.7%
  • 2007 , 2009 Mark Bomber Thompson

    Votes: 4 0.8%
  • 2008, 2013, 2014, 2015 Alastair Clarkson

    Votes: 17 3.4%
  • 2010 Mick Malthouse

    Votes: 19 3.9%
  • 2011 Chris Scott

    Votes: 227 46.0%
  • 2012 John Longmire

    Votes: 16 3.2%
  • 2016 Luke Beveridge

    Votes: 29 5.9%
  • 2017 Damien Hardwick

    Votes: 91 18.5%

  • Total voters
    493
  • Poll closed .

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#76
As this is from 2000, I have no hesitation in nominate K Sheedy. Had an awesome list - won 1 flag in his window and then held on too long at the Bombers while they plateaued. The Sheedy of the mid 80's was innovatve, bold and fearless, the Sheedy of this millenium was a pale imitation.
Hats off to Dimma. Bloody hard work building a team from essentially scratch. Has to be said though, that a coach is made to look good by the cattle he has on the park and Dimma and Richmond have been blessed to have Dusty have such a stellar year. Take Dusty out and the tigers are finishing 7th/8th.
 

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#77
As this is from 2000, I have no hesitation in nominate K Sheedy. Had an awesome list - won 1 flag in his window and then held on too long at the Bombers while they plateaued. The Sheedy of the mid 80's was innovatve, bold and fearless, the Sheedy of this millenium was a pale imitation.
Hats off to Dimma. Bloody hard work building a team from essentially scratch. Has to be said though, that a coach is made to look good by the cattle he has on the park and Dimma and Richmond have been blessed to have Dusty have such a stellar year. Take Dusty out and the tigers are finishing 7th/8th.
doubt it

Miles or Llyod would have done a fine job

obviously not to the same extent but they are capable of the 30 touches and some goals, too.

Rance, Jack or Nankervis would have been harder to replace
 

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doubt it

Miles or Llyod would have done a fine job

obviously not to the same extent but they are capable of the 30 touches and some goals, too.

Rance, Jack or Nankervis would have been harder to replace
! posession of Dusty's is worth 2 of anyone else's. Ivenever seen a midfielder play with greater spacial awareness and vision. Much like Dangerfield, Dusty was probably the critical difference between winning and losing half a dozen games. Unlike Dangerfield Dusty was team first always - maybe that's coaching I really don't know
 

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#80
How does worsfold escape?
I guess it depends if you define a coach by on field or off field. On field he put together a brilliant team. Off field he turned a blind eye to the playing group being split in to 2 groups who hated eachother - those on drugs, those anti drugs.

You can't vote Hardwick with a straight face, like Beveridge the year before he has taken a list that probably isn't in the top 4 for talent and won a flag with it.
This. Its the ones who had great lists and went nowhere with them that should be rated far harsher.
 

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#81
On behalf of the AFC I would like to apologise to big footy for not putting a lid on this garbage by defeating Richmond on Saturday.

Tigers fans - did scott need clarko's advice ? No he did not. Horse ? Beveridge ?

So who is the worst premiership coach now ? Dimma.
I think you need to lay off the Captain Morgan...
 

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I guess it depends if you define a coach by on field or off field. On field he put together a brilliant team. Off field he turned a blind eye to the playing group being split in to 2 groups who hated eachother - those on drugs, those anti drugs.



This. Its the ones who had great lists and went nowhere with them that should be rated far harsher.
Longmire...
 

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#84
Paul roos anyone? Woosha lacked game day nous

But yeah Chris Scott.
Firstly, Roosy is a saviour and a God among men.
Secondly, your avatar greatly disturbs me.

I was thinking about the recent Grand Final win and how Hardwick achieved it. He inherited a poor list in a club that was $5 million in debt. In 8 years he has rebuilt the list during the birth of GWS (so they were pillaging the top picks), made finals 4 of the last 5 seasons, developed two Brownlow winners, a Coleman medallist and multiple AA footballers and just achieved the ultimate.
Then we have Chris Scott. He inherited a premiership list (let's face it, it was Bombers team) and won a flag in his first year 2011. Since then, they have traded to maintain a position, but, the longer his tenure has gone on, they have either gone backwards or tread water.
So it begs the question, one coach had to rebuild a list, learn and develop, the other was provided a top end list with appropriate resources already there. Is Chris Scott the worst premiership coach since 2000 (or of modern times)?
Quoted for truth. Clearly some on the main board cannot handle your truthbombs.
 

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#86
Hardwick easily the worst premiership coach since 2000 and Richmond the worst premiership team since 2000.
I mean not sure if you are serious. But in general we have some people saying Hardwick is the worst coach and Richmond is the worst team ever to win a flag, how can this be shit coach and shit team = flag??

Anyone who holds these two beliefs concurrently is delusional.
 

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#89
Sitting here thinking WTF how could 3 people vote for Woosha but its a damn shame we only won one flag during our window.
 

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#91
I mean not sure if you are serious. But in general we have some people saying Hardwick is the worst coach and Richmond is the worst team ever to win a flag, how can this be shit coach and shit team = flag??

Anyone who holds these two beliefs concurrently is delusional.
Nobody is saying Richmond are shit.

Now you're being compared to to other Premiership teams though.
It's a higher bar than just a few also rans in season 2017.
 
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#93
Clarkson not winning that award is more of a reflection on the talent that he has had at his disposal than him being a good coach or not kinda like Phil Jackson at the Bulls and later on at the Lakers with Kobe and Shaq.

Now that Hawthorn has lost Hodge, Mitchell and co he doesn't wanna do the hard yards and is desperately trying to poach ready made proven players (Tom Mitchell, O'Meara, Vickery etc...) from other clubs because he realises how difficult it is to build a Premiership list from the ground up when you don't have access to the best youngsters in the land (Top 10/Top 20 picks)

I wish Clarkson would go to draft for me to accurately asses how good he really is when he's not surrounded by multiple Top 10/Top 20 picks (Hodge, Franklin, Rioli, Roughead, Lewis, etc..)
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Luke Hodge drafted by Hawks before Clarkson was there.
Sam Mitchell drafted by Hawks before Clarkson was there but not bad for pick 36.
Josh Gibson - Rookie draft selection from North Melbourne, traded for picks 25 and 41
Taylor Duyea - Pick 69
Luke Breust - rookie draft selection no 47.
Paul Puopolo - Pick 66
Isaac Smith - Pick 19 but just about every other club had on option to get him.
Jack Gunston - Pick 29 by Adelaide traded for picks 24,46 and 64.
Brian Lake - Pick 71 by the dogs traded lake and pick 27 for picks 21 and 41
Liam Shiels - Pick 34.
Ben Stratton - Pick 46
Will Langford - Rookie Draft NSW scholarship selection No.85
Stuart Dew - Pick 45.
Brad Hill - Pick 33.
Matt Spangher - traded by Sydney for pick 66.
Matt Suckling - Rookie draft pick 81

I could include 1 time premiership players such as Schoenmakers and Johnathon Simpkin and others before Clarko and the 2008 premiership such as Brent Guerra and Campbell Brown.

Oh and we lost buddy for pick 19 as compensation from the AFL. He then missed 2 grand final wins.

So yeah you were saying........
 

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A bit unfair on Chris Scott here considering every scribe in town has been gunning for Geelong blood since 2010?
I voted "Choco" Williams with Paul Roos second.
 
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And Carlton have been the worst team overall since 2000
Actually they really have been the worst performed team of anyone since 2001. True story. But, that has no place in this thread.
 

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Chris Scott for me. Comfortably.

Was handed a side who, besides Ablett had already won 2 flags in the previous 4 years and made the GF in 3.

Since he was practically handed a flag, Geelong have become perennial finals chokers. Year in, year out he loads for a flag by bringing in talent but never gets any closer because his list aren't cohesive.

2015 it was watch out for 2016 when we get Danger and Henderson. We will win the flag.

2016 rolls around, Geelong fail in a Prelim AGAIN, and all of a sudden it is "wait until we get a better ball user out of the backline."

2017 they get Tuohy. Geelong fail AGAIN. Now it is "we need better forwards. Devon Smith or Jake Stringer".

The fact is, Chris Scott is a horrible coach who is relying on bringing in gun players to win the flag and has sacrificed a lot to get one and has failed dismally.

At the end of 2015, he loaded for a flag. So far he has failed. Dismally.
 
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