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Why Australia is in Eurovision.
We were invited a couple of years ago as a special guest for the 60th anniversary. It's hugely popular here and has been broadcast for 30 years so it was somewhat of a reward for our continued support of it.

We finished 5th that year and the viewers really, really got around us, so they invited us back. We finished 2nd last year so we're back again.



Why limited series shows need second seasons. 13 Reasons Why, Big Little Lies, Riverdale, The Night Of, Mr. Robot. They do not need second seasons. But due to how popular the first season, of course they were going to make a second season.
You kind of answered your own question there.

Wouldn't really call Mr Robot limited, though. The lead is phenomenal.
 

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Why limited series shows need second seasons. 13 Reasons Why, Big Little Lies, Riverdale, The Night Of, Mr. Robot. They do not need second seasons. But due to how popular the first season, of course they were going to make a second season.

The issue is that these shit screenwriters will have no material to base the season off. The first season is always based off a Book or Comic-book or movie that there is some storyline that they have to stick to, and it's proven to work their the viewership of the original text. but now that season 2 has been funded they storyline is ****** up.

The reason it worked for something like Fargo is that it started a new timeline, with different characters. This recent breed of shows are all trying to extend the original characters and will **** it up.

Why can't TV studios just leave a limited series as a one season thing?
conversely, i always wondered why UK comedy shows like the office, inbetweeners,black books never went beyond 3 seasons. did ratings start slipping towards the end or did they decide to end it while they were on top, before it started getting stale?
 

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You kind of answered your own question there.

Wouldn't really call Mr Robot limited, though. The lead is phenomenal.
Mr. Robot was originally written as a movie, and then Esmail was asked to turn it into a 10 episode TV show.
conversely, i always wondered why UK comedy shows like the office, inbetweeners,black books never went beyond 3 seasons. did ratings start slipping towards the end or did they decide to end it while they were on top, before it started getting stale?
I'd prefer most shows to stay at three-ish seasons. Because quality always seems to go down. Plus, you don't want actors typecasted and only recognized by one particular role. Imagine if Fawlty Towers went on for 10 seasons, as much as being able to see that many episode would be fantastic, I doubt it would be classified as one of the best shows of all time.
 

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The Mrs. Richards episode of Fawlty Towers is the best written comedy I've ever seen, so many stories within the story, and all summed up inside 30 minutes. Genius!
conversely, i always wondered why UK comedy shows like the office, inbetweeners,black books never went beyond 3 seasons. did ratings start slipping towards the end or did they decide to end it while they were on top, before it started getting stale?
The Royle Family only lasted three seaons too.
 

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First time I've seen one of those idol type shows without a female judge
actually, the title was wrong (so was i) this isn't Arab Idol, which is Lebanese, this looks like the much inferior 'Stage' from Iran.
Arab Idol and AfghanStar are your better shows for middle eastern singing contests, both have female judges and have done since their inception.
 

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The Mrs. Richards episode of Fawlty Towers is the best written comedy I've ever seen, so many stories within the story, and all summed up inside 30 minutes. Genius!
The Germans in my favourite episode of all time.
"I speak the English I learn it from a book"
"No, no, no, I said. The West Indians are n-word, these people [Indians] are wogs"
"Don't mention the war. I mentioned the war, and I think I got away"
"Fire, fire, fire"
"No, you started it [WWII], you invaded Poland"
"What? A doctor? Here in the hospital? Whatever shall we do?"
"I'm doing it you flaming idiot. I walked here to answer the phone for you to tell me to do something that I am already doing. What is the point of that?"
"Manuel, can you get me a hammer? A hammer." "Ah, I ham cheese sandwich"
 

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The Mrs. Richards episode of Fawlty Towers is the best written comedy I've ever seen, so many stories within the story, and all summed up inside 30 minutes. Genius!

The Royle Family only lasted three seaons too.
Peep Show went for 9 seasons and I wished it had kept going forever. I want to live my life through Mark and Jez.
 

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Why limited series shows need second seasons. 13 Reasons Why, Big Little Lies, Riverdale, The Night Of, Mr. Robot. They do not need second seasons. But due to how popular the first season, of course they were going to make a second season.

The issue is that these shit screenwriters will have no material to base the season off. The first season is always based off a Book or Comic-book or movie that there is some storyline that they have to stick to, and it's proven to work their the viewership of the original text. but now that season 2 has been funded they storyline is ****** up.

The reason it worked for something like Fargo is that it started a new timeline, with different characters. This recent breed of shows are all trying to extend the original characters and will **** it up.

Why can't TV studios just leave a limited series as a one season thing?
Second season of The Night Of?
 

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Why limited series shows need second seasons. 13 Reasons Why, Big Little Lies, Riverdale, The Night Of, Mr. Robot. They do not need second seasons. But due to how popular the first season, of course they were going to make a second season.

The issue is that these shit screenwriters will have no material to base the season off. The first season is always based off a Book or Comic-book or movie that there is some storyline that they have to stick to, and it's proven to work their the viewership of the original text. but now that season 2 has been funded they storyline is ****** up.

The reason it worked for something like Fargo is that it started a new timeline, with different characters. This recent breed of shows are all trying to extend the original characters and will **** it up.

Why can't TV studios just leave a limited series as a one season thing?
It's certainly possible for writers to expand on limited ideas; The Man in the High Castle has had two very good seasons already based on a single book, I don't think Mr Robot was limited. On the other hand, Stranger Things should have been an anthology series; I really don't need a second season of the same characters getting into supernatural hijinks again. Also, Stranger Things was a labour of love over many years, now they are trying to write and produce a second season in one year. I see it going the same way as True Detective, where the rush to produce a second season meant the quality dropped significantly.
 
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Mr. Robot was originally written as a movie, and then Esmail was asked to turn it into a 10 episode TV show.
I didn't know that, but I'm not sure it changes my point to be honest. The original story may have been limited but I don't think the concept is. The protagonist is one of the more extraordinary characters I've seen on a show for quite some time and his story alone provides a lot of opportunity for future exploration.

Definitely think most shows go on for far too long, but I don't think having a second season of Mr Robot is really an example of it.
 

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Why the Essendon-Geelong game is at the MCG rather than country Victoria.

Actually, why the AFL thinks that its 18 clubs is the only representation of Football to exist.

There'd be about 100,000 leagues around Australia.

Rant done.

Corporatisation sucks.
 

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conversely, i always wondered why UK comedy shows like the office, inbetweeners,black books never went beyond 3 seasons. did ratings start slipping towards the end or did they decide to end it while they were on top, before it started getting stale?
These shows had limited lifespans and that is part of what made them great.

The Office concluded with an outgoing David Brent and Tim making his play for Dawn. The Christmas Specials touched on what Brent had been up to on the road, Lee and Dawn in the US, Gareth as manager of WH etc. then ended with the feelgood Christmas party. It was a natural end point for mine. I don't think there was enough to the Christmas Specials to draw out another series.

I loved the way The Inbetweeners finished up with the boys going their separate ways then had follow up movies for a Euro holiday following their A-levels and a trip to Australia later on. I reckon if they had tried to eek out 4-5 series of teenagers making dick and fart jokes it would've got pretty stale.
 
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Mr. Robot was originally written as a movie, and then Esmail was asked to turn it into a 10 episode TV show.
It was never going to be a limited series though, I thought the decision to make it a series was his call in the end too? Either way though Esmail said from the very beginning that he had planned a story that would take multiple seasons to finish.
 

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Why the Essendon-Geelong game is at the MCG rather than country Victoria.

Actually, why the AFL thinks that its 18 clubs is the only representation of Football to exist.

There'd be about 100,000 leagues around Australia.

Rant done.

Corporatisation sucks.
Is this the "country game" they've been spruiking for a week? And it's at the MELBOURNE Cricket Ground? Haha, idiots.
 

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No Essendon home game is going to be anywhere except the MCG or Etihad. Madness to think otherwise.

The AFL has definitely jumped the shark with games/rounds for things.

What's next? Lego round? We'd have to wheel out Rowan Jones and his Lego man haircut.
 

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'Friends' that we haven't seen for about a year bitching to other close friends how we're apparently not good parents and don't discipline enough. Weird. Some people go loopy when they have kids and think their way is the only way.
 
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