Society & Culture Things in life you just don't understand - Part 3

[Bomberboyokay]

 

[Shell]

That film Crash was garbage, didn't that win?

I didnt mind it. So not suprised you are claiming its garbage.

 

[Bomberboyokay]

 

[Bomberboyokay]

Kram must've hated The Wrestler

 

[Kram]

I didnt mind it. So not suprised you are claiming its garbage.

It's not as bad as Philadelphia though!

 

[Shell]

It's not as bad as Philadelphia though!

Yeah that is fking shit. Tom Hanks should be ashamed of producing that crap.

 

[Shell]

Srsly tho. When I was 14 and Forrest Gump came out I really liked it.


Now.... it has its moments, but it is pretty embarrassing to be a Best Picture winner.

1994 Oscar Nominees. Picture: "Forrest Gump," "Four Weddings and a Funeral," "Pulp Fiction," "Quiz Show," "The Shawshank Redemption.
Idk, i guess maybe Pulp or Quiz Show. I havent seen QS tho. I wouldnt give it to Shawshank. Or Four Weddings.

 

[Kram]

Srsly tho. When I was 14 and Forrest Gump came out I really liked it.


Now.... it has its moments, but it is pretty embarrassing to be a Best Picture winner.

It's great the first time you watch it but then you like it less and less every time you see it again.

 

[Shell]

It's great the first time you watch it but then you like it less and less every time you see it again.

The music in it is fantastic. Other than that, yup i agree.

 

[Bomberboyokay]

Watching Forrest Gump in 1994 would've been rather different to watching it in 2019 where Boomer nostalgia has been mined to death.

 

[Jobe Watson]

That film Crash was garbage, didn't that win?

Easily the worst movie to ever win Best Picture.

I got made to watch that movie in high school and didn't mind it but looking back... what an insulting and patronising story.

The racist cop sexually assaults a woman... but because his dad dies of cancer and he later rescues that same woman from a car accident, he is now redeemed! The two black guys talk about how they are constantly being racially profiled... and then in the next scene they steal a car at gunpoint! Sandra Bullock is scared of immigrants... but then she falls down some stairs and breaks her neck and an immigrant nurse takes care of her, and now she doesn't hate them anymore! Isn't racism just so easy to solve!

 

[Shell]

Easily the worst movie to ever win Best Picture.

I got made to watch that movie in high school and didn't mind it but looking back... what an insulting story.

The racist cop sexually assaults someone... but because his dad dies of cancer and he later rescues that same woman from a car accident, he is now redeemed! The two black guys talk about how they are constantly being racially profiled... and then in the next scene they steal a car at gunpoint! Sandra Bullock is scared of immigrants... but then she falls down some stairs and breaks her neck and an immigrant nurse takes care of her, and now she doesn't hate them anymore! Isn't racism just so easy to solve!

It still had some smart/clever dialogue in it. But yeah, completely agree.

What about Ryan Phillpe the "non racist" cop killing an innocent black dude.


Brokeback Mountain clearly should have won BP that year, but it wasnt "In" to do gay films yet. So hence why it was overlooked by those homophobic dicks in the academy.

 

[Beerfish]

What happens if some critics pan a movie, and others praise it? What do you do then?

Go by the nudity levels?

But seriously, wifey and I use a system for movies we've never heard of. If it's an action film with 6+ on IMDb we'll have a look. All other films must be 7+. Seems to work quite well. Used to all be 7+ but we were finding it's a lot rarer for an action film to hit 7 territory and really, you don't need a good action movie to be Citizen Kane or anything to be enjoyable.

Someone once told me you should use metacritic because it's an average of professional critic ratings but I kept finding they would rate good films poorly. Can only assume it's to appear edgey/non-conformist?

 

[IKnowtheDog]

It still had some smart/clever dialogue in it. But yeah, completely agree.

What about Ryan Phillpe the "non racist" cop killing an innocent black dude.


Brokeback Mountain clearly should have won BP that year, but it wasnt "In" to do gay films yet. So hence why it was overlooked by those homophobic dicks in the academy.

Thé lack of pudding eating is what cost BM the award for BP

 

[phantom13]

Anyone trying to say anything besides the 99 Oscars as the biggest travesty of all time is wrong

Shakespeare in Love beat Saving Private Ryan, The Thin Red Line, Life is Beautiful and Elizabeth.

 

[Billy ray]

Thin red line was great

 

[Shell]

Anyone trying to say anything besides the 99 Oscars as the biggest travesty of all time is wrong

Shakespeare in Love beat Saving Private Ryan, The Thin Red Line, Life is Beautiful and Elizabeth.

Robbed our Cate of best actress too

 

[phantom13]

Thin red line was great

Crash was a real point in time film, it’s aged horribly but at the time the whole “maybe everyone is racist, not just white people” landed really well.

Forrest Gump is charming but shallow

Shakespeare is just horrendous and Red Line was epic, Life is Beautiful kind of redefined foreign cinema for a new age and Ryan... that’s the benchmark for pretty well any war scene now.

 

[Scotland]

Forrest Gump is still a historical epic. Totally unbelievable story line but believable and relatable characters in familiar events and eras.

Not sure how it would go being made today. People would probably complain that it's offensive because Gump is a simpleton, Bubba's momma cooked shrimp for white people, John Lennon is dead etc.

 

[Shell]

Thank fk they did not make that sequel to Forrest gump. It sounded ridiculous

 

[phantom13]

Gump is pretty problematic in modern contexts.

His mom with the sexual favours for schooling
Kids physically assaulting him for being slow
Jenny’s being sexually abused
Jenny sexually assaulting Forest
The simplification of the war
White man saviour

That list goes on.

In 94 none of that stuff registered. Tom is charming, sinise is great, Penn is the original pixie dream girl. It just works nostalgically but re watching it... rough

 

[Craven Morehead]

Gump is pretty problematic in modern contexts.

His mom with the sexual favours for schooling
Kids physically assaulting him for being slow
Jenny’s being sexually abused
Jenny sexually assaulting Forest
The simplification of the war
White man saviour

That list goes on.

In 94 none of that stuff registered. Tom is charming, sinise is great, Penn is the original pixie dream girl. It just works nostalgically but re watching it... rough

Because none of that happens anymore and it doesn't reflect real life?

 

[phantom13]

Because none of that happens anymore and it doesn't reflect real life?

That’s not why something is considered problematic

 

[phantom13]

For the record, I dislike the term “problematic” and it being applied to film. Just saying, if it’s made now, the same way, with the same treatment of those things, people will say it’s “problematic”

 

[Scotland]

Imagine if they re-made Titanic. That ocean liner built in Ireland and sailing from England to the US in 1912 was saaa whitewashed. Needs more diversity KPIs.