Society & Culture Things in life you just don't understand

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Jesus christ, I didnt post that.

Dont ****ing go in there and read it then, if you're that offended by it.
I haven't been in there and read any of it, but what I've read about it here sounds pretty offensive, and anyone who gets any enjoyment out of it must have a pretty messed up sense of reality, in my opinion.
 

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They're right. These people have families.
This sort of pervading attitude is precisely why ghoul pools (and any sort of dark humour / black comedy) are so necessary. Society treats death as this massive, terrible thing that is the worst thing that can happen to anybody, ever. What sort of message does that give to a terminal cancer patient? How does that make them feel? It puts them in the ground already.

Fatalism is about accepting the inevitable. If I can't avoid it, then I'm going to do my best to embrace it. Better to joke and laugh and try to trivialise death than build it up as a massive spectre by treating it with such hushed and fearful respect. The only way you give death power over your life is by treating it like it is a big thing.

If you're going to mistake my contemptuous attitude towards death by playing this game as a genuine hope that someone dies, a lack of respect for the person's life / the suffering of the family who has to deal with their absence, or anything like that then that's your problem.
 

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I hate how people try and tell others how to live their life, like they're some sort of prophet :rolleyes:

Not attacking anyone here, just an observation. If someone wants to pierce their eyeballs, tattoo their forehead, play a death game, how is it anyone's business what other people do?
 

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This sort of pervading attitude is precisely why ghoul pools (and any sort of dark humour / black comedy) are so necessary. Society treats death as this massive, terrible thing that is the worst thing that can happen to anybody, ever. What sort of message does that give to a terminal cancer patient? How does that make them feel? It puts them in the ground already.

Fatalism is about accepting the inevitable. If I can't avoid it, then I'm going to do my best to embrace it. Better to joke and laugh and try to trivialise death than build it up as a massive spectre by treating it with such hushed and fearful respect. The only way you give death power over your life is by treating it like it is a big thing.

If you're going to mistake my contemptuous attitude towards death by playing this game as a genuine hope that someone dies, a lack of respect for the person's life / the suffering of the family who has to deal with their absence, or anything like that then that's your problem.

So, your way of laughing and trivialising your own mortality is by showing a lack of respect to other people and their families? Pretty selfish attitude. Must be my problem though.
 

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The way you are choosing to see it - as an expression of lack of respect for the individual or their family - is your problem. A more accurate way to see it is that it isn't the trivialisation of a particular person's circumstances, but the idea of death in general.

Why must death be treated as a miserable calamity in order to validate the idea that someone's life had value?
 

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The way you are choosing to see it - as an expression of lack of respect for the individual or their family - is your problem. A more accurate way to see it is that it isn't the trivialisation of a particular person's circumstances, but the idea of death as a tragedy in general.

Why must death be treated as a miserable calamity in order to validate the idea that someone's life had value?

"A more accurate way to see it isn't the trivialisation of a particular person's circumstances" - that's actually what it is though. If you can justify it to yourself then that's fine, I haven't wandered into that thread to force my views on anyone, it came up in the conversation here. If people have that perspective on death that's all well and good. However, I don't see the link between that and showing a lack of respect for other people who don't share that view.
 

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"A more accurate way to see it isn't the trivialisation of a particular person's circumstances" - that's actually what it is though.
Care to explain how?

To treat all death in an offhand way is not to minimise the feelings of people who choose to treat it differently. Nor does it minimise the value a particular person had during life, nor how that loss may be experienced by those who were close to them. It is merely the expression of that person's attitude towards the idea of death in general - no more, no less.

I understand that this is a difficult distinction to make when you are emotional and dealing with the death of a loved one, which is why most people don't go out of the way to rub it in the faces of those who are grieving - say, by making sardonic quips at funerals. But we are all strangers on the internet and there should be no problem understanding the difference.
 

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Care to explain how?

To treat all death in an offhand way is not to minimise the feelings of people who choose to treat it differently. Nor does it minimise the value a particular person had during life, nor how that loss may be experienced by those who were close to them. It is merely the expression of that person's attitude towards the idea of death in general - no more, no less.

I understand that this is a difficult distinction to make when you are emotional and dealing with the death of a loved one, which is why most people don't go out of the way to rub it in the faces of those who are grieving - say, by making sardonic quips at funerals. But we are all strangers on the internet and there should be no problem understanding the difference.
I don't have a problem understanding the difference. I still don't understand why it becomes a "fun" topic for discussion. Probably wont understand that part so best we leave it at that I guess!
 

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Why footy players take out their mouth guard when going for a set shot.

especially when they stick in their (usually) dirty sock then back in their mouth.

haven't worn a mouthguard playing footy since high school. can't breathe properly with that shit in your mouth. got one specially fitted once but stopped wearing it after 3 or 4 games.
 

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The appeal of complaining about the Hottest 100. If you enjoy hearing what songs are rated by your peers, good for you; otherwise, go create your own playlist
 

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how come in the AFL, the rookie and pre-season drafts are dated for the following years? for instance you would consider luke dalhaus part of the 2010 draft crop, but he was taken in the 2011 rookie draft (which was held on December 7, 2010).
 

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No idea. I guess they it is called "2011 Rookie Draft" because whenever it occurs, it specifically relates to the coming season (you are picking the 2011 Rookies). "2010 National Draft" just means the national draft that occurs in that calendar year.

The fact that they occur close together is confusing though. Maybe there was a time when the Rookie and Preseason Drafts didn't occur til the new year, and the naming convention has just been kept.
 
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