Mega Thread Things that Shit me part XII - The Twelfth One!

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Most dudes aren’t taking their shirts off in high school with a shirt on you can’t see abs and his arms and chest are giving nothing away.

I was very similar to him until about year 11 when weights started working a bit and no one knew or cared. If he doesn’t have the confidence in his body to show it off there is no reason think anyone would know.
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People immigrating to the new housing estates near where I live then clogging up the good free flowing back roads as they bring their shyte driving with them.
 

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I can see where raskolnikov is coming from. I work at a school in a low socio-economic area and it has had 3 suicides in 3 years and another 4 associated suicides in the community at other schools. There are a massive range of issues from parenting/neglect, drugs, bullying and a lots of negativity already flowing in teenagers minds. Extra triggers don't help the cause and the massive strain on the school, staff and students.
 

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I can see where raskolnikov is coming from. I work at a school in a low socio-economic area and it has had 3 suicides in 3 years and another 4 associated suicides in the community at other schools. There are a massive range of issues from parenting/neglect, drugs, bullying and a lots of negativity already flowing in teenagers minds. Extra triggers don't help the cause and the massive strain on the school, staff and students.
I understand all that but if kids are talking about it, then shutting it down doesn’t stop the chatter, it just gets taken somewhere else.

Teachers aren’t trained nor should they be expected to deal with this. There is unfortunately no easy solution and if shutting it down helps then by all means do so - I’m just not sure it’s the right solution
 

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I understand all that but if kids are talking about it, then shutting it down doesn’t stop the chatter, it just gets taken somewhere else.

Teachers aren’t trained nor should they be expected to deal with this. There is unfortunately no easy solution and if shutting it down helps then by all means do so - I’m just not sure it’s the right solution
Unfortunately we have no say or control. We are forced to give a statement which comes via the principal who is sent a memo from the Director General. Everything is then monitored and any students who we believe may be a risk are referred to student services, the chaplain or the school psych.
 
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I understand all that but if kids are talking about it, then shutting it down doesn’t stop the chatter, it just gets taken somewhere else.

Teachers aren’t trained nor should they be expected to deal with this. There is unfortunately no easy solution and if shutting it down helps then by all means do so - I’m just not sure it’s the right solution
On top of this as a teen I took a lot more from what my peers said than what 99% of adults said, so stopping kids talking amongst themselves about this stuff is likely just going to stop them talking which is not a good outcome one would think.
 
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Unfortunately we have no say or control. We are forced to give a statement which comes via the principal who is sent a memo from the Director General. Everything is then monitored and any students who we believe may be a risk are referred to student services, the chaplain or the school psych.
Don’t blame you or any individual but blaming the show seems a stretch too.
 

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You probably also think violent video games causes school shootings in the US despite thousands of kids playing them every day.
I remember years ago playing a few first person shooters- Goldeneye etc. (nothing like the hours kids today play).
I started to find when I was walking down the street and someone appeared around a corner in front of me for about a tenth if a second my minds first reaction would be 'shoot them!!!!!'
It sort of conditions the brain.

I dont think it causes shootings (kids having access to guns is to blame there) but it doesn't help the situation.
 

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I remember years ago playing a few first person shooters- Goldeneye etc. (nothing like the hours kids today play).
I started to find when I was walking down the street and someone appeared around a corner in front of me for about a tenth if a second my minds first reaction would be 'shoot them!!!!!'
It sort of conditions the brain.

I dont think it causes shootings (kids having access to guns is to blame there) but it doesn't help the situation.
Your issues run deeper than what you're admitting.
 

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Your issues run deeper than what you're admitting.
No issues whatsoever.
I hate guns and would never own one.

Its only muscle memory.
For instance when you are used to always driving and then sit in the passenger seat with a P plater your foot will be pushing a non existent brake pedal like crazy.
Its how our brains are programmed.
 
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No issues whatsoever.
I hate guns and would never own one.

Its only muscle memory.
For instance when you are used to always driving and then sit in the passenger seat with a P plater your foot will be pushing a non existent brake pedal like crazy.
Its how our brains are programmed.
Don’t think I’ve ever done either of those things.
 

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Yeah haven’t done them either.

Came down this morning and there’s like 6 bottles of empty wine on the table and my housemate smashed back a 4 pack of pies I had sitting in the freezer. I’m going to lace it with ******* laxatives or something. Sheesh.
 

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Yeah haven’t done them either.

Came down this morning and there’s like 6 bottles of empty wine on the table and my housemate smashed back a 4 pack of pies I had sitting in the freezer. I’m going to lace it with ******* laxatives or something. Sheesh.
Please keep us posted as to what happens from here.

You need to get revenge. Give him a flat tyre.
 

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Don’t blame you or any individual but blaming the show seems a stretch too.
I live with a friend who works in Youth intervention and she had to watch this show to keep up with the current zietgiest so she could be able to point out the flaws to her kids and how to properly approach depression and deal with these emotions. I think the opposition to the show really has more to do with the fact that it is aimed at at risk teens and whilst it does attempt to dissuade self-harm it does so very poorly to the point where it pretty much glorifies emotional blackmail by revenge-suicide. I remember when I was a teen and all the opposition to Emo music (which at least was publicly derided for doing the same thing) and would give a myopic, depressed teen who is looking for the easiest way to understand negative emotions a REALLY bad way to cope by giving them what is basically a poor fantasy narrative ("they'll be sorry when I'm gone, I bet they will").

In the end I feel in days past where parents had a bit more control over entertainment consumption via a remote in the loungeroom it would be more justifiable to forgive the show and switch the burden of responsibility to the parents. But in todays age of ease of access via streaming sites it's far easier for a teen to view these things because everyone else loves it and it is what is being talked about (and lord knows the two things guaranteed to get a teen to do something are peer pressure and being told not to by an authority figure). So the burden of responsibility has to shift with it from being solely individual and parent based to the content creators themselves I feel (again that is open to fair debate as I base my opinion there coming from a Public Health background)

So in summary: Yes I absolutely would blame the show. But whether or not complete censorship is a fair and just consequence/completely necessary is an argument of nuance between where that duty of responsibility for content consumption currently lies and whether or not it is fair to restrict the ability of the content creator to create revenue on the back of that. And that is just not a conversation you could really have here because too many people just refuse to approach complicated issues such as these because it is easier and more cathartic to reach a set in stone opinion based on a moral ideology (see the libertarian argument here trying to shift total responsibility to the individual).

My two cents, pardon the wall of text as I very seldomly post of BigFooty these days, let alone on General Discussion.
 

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The tyre comment seemed passive aggressive, fair enough though.

It’s really ******* annoying though, being serious. Shouldn’t have to put labels on what foods mine.
Sorry. I want to hear about your plot for revenge :D

Yeah that's annoying. Are you going to talk to him about it?
 
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