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My school has a good policy on phones which works because it is backed up by student services and admin.

What s**ts me is their policy saying teachers shouldn't drink tea/coffee in class because the students can't and it sets a bad example. I need my caffeine in the morning!!!
 

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My school has a good policy on phones which works because it is backed up by student services and admin.

What ****s me is their policy saying teachers shouldn't drink tea/coffee in class because the students can't and it sets a bad example. I need my caffeine in the morning!!!

How long before class starts are you at school? I'm at school two hours before class starts.
 
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I'll chime in.

If you're not sure about teaching in general and want to dip your toe in, go and do a CELTA and teach English as a second language somewhere (I'd recommend Europe rather than SE Asia).

First off: you'll see if you can hack it - teaching isn't for everyone
Secondly: you'll learn about people and about yourself
Thirdly: it's a good experience
Lastly: you'll have a skill you can always fall back on and stories to tell to boot

Just my two cents worth.
 

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I'll chime in.

If you're not sure about teaching in general and want to dip your toe in, go and do a CELTA and teach English as a second language somewhere (I'd recommend Europe rather than SE Asia).

First off: you'll see if you can hack it - teaching isn't for everyone
Secondly: you'll learn about people and about yourself
Thirdly: it's a good experience
Lastly: you'll have a skill you can always fall back on and stories to tell to boot

Just my two cents worth.
The paid jobs for those with no university education qualifications are in Asia.

If you have a Graduate Certificate in Education or higher there are at least some good options in Europe.

Asia (especially Japan, Taiwan and South Korea) often has schools that are more intense and some parents have very high expectations.
 
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The paid jobs for those with no university education qualifications are in Asia.

If you have a Graduate Certificate in Education or higher there are at least some good options in Europe.

Asia (especially Japan, Taiwan and South Korea) often has schools that are more intense and some parents have very high expectations.
What he said.
I have a CELTA and a Uni Degree, not in education, but it's enough. To add, the better jobs are in Europe.
You can still find jobs without a degree, but with a CELTA.. but they'll be lower paid and you'll have to except dodgier conditions. I started out in London of all places English teaching.
 

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My school has a good policy on phones which works because it is backed up by student services and admin.

What ****s me is their policy saying teachers shouldn't drink tea/coffee in class because the students can't and it sets a bad example. I need my caffeine in the morning!!!
Our school has triedto say teachers are not allowed hot drinks in the classroom (includingin travel mugs). Hypocritical since leadership go to get coffee from staffroom and van just as we have to let kids in.
 

raskolnikov

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Our school has triedto say teachers are not allowed hot drinks in the classroom (includingin travel mugs). Hypocritical since leadership go to get coffee from staffroom and van just as we have to let kids in.
I've found that with admin it's usually a matter of do as I say, not do as I do. I hate to say it but I've respected very few leaders in my 20 years teaching.
 

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I'm looking at a move from the business world into secondary teaching, and given I have a previous Bachelors I've been looking at the various Masters degrees around the place.

I've been recommended Melbourne Uni (with/out internship option) and Deakin as the best options, but happy to hear suggestions.

Also, would I be restricted to covering only specialist areas that were part of my majors, or are other options available?
 

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I'm looking at a move from the business world into secondary teaching, and given I have a previous Bachelors I've been looking at the various Masters degrees around the place.

I've been recommended Melbourne Uni (with/out internship option) and Deakin as the best options, but happy to hear suggestions.

Also, would I be restricted to covering only specialist areas that were part of my majors, or are other options available?
We usually get Melbourne and Deakin students who are quite good and they speak highly of each of their universities' program. I *think* you may limited to what you studied in your bachelors, this is going off my personal knowledge and the fact that I completed my postgrad in WA which may be different here in VIC. Example; I did a major in Politics/History/International Relations and a minor in English Lit, I could only teach Humanities and English. In saying that, once you're in a school, you end up teaching whatever they give you.

What is your area/s?
 

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Donstuie

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We usually get Melbourne and Deakin students who are quite good and they speak highly of each of their universities' program. I *think* you may limited to what you studied in your bachelors, this is going off my personal knowledge and the fact that I completed my postgrad in WA which may be different here in VIC. Example; I did a major in Politics/History/International Relations and a minor in English Lit, I could only teach Humanities and English. In saying that, once you're in a school, you end up teaching whatever they give you.

What is your area/s?
I’ve looked a bit more into it and you are correct, it depends on my previous majors and minors. They all appear to follow the VIT guidelines.

I majored in Media Studies and Marketing. So I’d qualify for media but would need another business minor (like accounting, HR, management etc) as business/commerce appears to require two minors rather than one major.

So it looks likely I’d have to pick some extra subjects up before moving to a Masters. Unless there’s some flexibility to the guidelines (doubtful)?
 

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I'll chime in.

If you're not sure about teaching in general and want to dip your toe in, go and do a CELTA and teach English as a second language somewhere (I'd recommend Europe rather than SE Asia).

First off: you'll see if you can hack it - teaching isn't for everyone
Secondly: you'll learn about people and about yourself
Thirdly: it's a good experience
Lastly: you'll have a skill you can always fall back on and stories to tell to boot

Just my two cents worth.
plus you can bone the students without going to jail (just fired in disgrace/blaze of glory)
 

bigdog43

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Been involved in teaching for approximately 4 years and just don't think the regular school system is for me. I have a Master of Education but just really unsure what else I could use it for. Would love to be involved in sport or potentially Indigenous ed, anyone ever been in the same boat?
 

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Been involved in teaching for approximately 4 years and just don't think the regular school system is for me. I have a Master of Education but just really unsure what else I could use it for. Would love to be involved in sport or potentially Indigenous ed, anyone ever been in the same boat?
If you're not too fussed about moving, should be plenty of options around indigenous education. Haven't done it personally but have known a few people who've moved to NT for a year or two and loved every minute. Not an easy experience, gotta be open to not only uprooting your life but changing yourself a bit.

There are plenty of alternative educational contexts around you can look into as well, sometimes a change of scenery is a good thing. Disability sector, adult education, early childhood - have a look around, might cop a paycut but find something you're more passionate about.

Lots of transferable skills in education; just figure out what you love about it, where your expertise is and see where you can make use of it. Will have lots of applicable skills for public service in general, entry level at very least.
 

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I taught in a remote community in Arnhem land for a couple of years. Loved the teaching but the remoteness got to me after a couple of years. Some people love it and have been there for years. I found that these people tend to be a bit odd/eccentric though. I wouldn't mind going back for a couple more years at some stage. It's good money and savings opportunity if you can hack it. Rent free and very little to spend your money on. Indigenous kids are great to teach as well.
 

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My cousin has taught up in the NT in places like Halls Creek for years so she must like it.
 

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Been leading the STEM project at our school for last 6 months. Loved it and been looking at possibly seeing if my leadership team will open a LT role for this as they want to make it part of their AIP.

I designed the curriculum, identified the materials needed and scenarios we can operate at our school. I attended all the PD they wanted me to go on.

Been told recently they want me to look at creating the scenario of having it run as a specialist subject. No chance of an LT role but happy to offer a resource admin payment. No time release.
 
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Sainteric

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I'm looking at a move from the business world into secondary teaching, and given I have a previous Bachelors I've been looking at the various Masters degrees around the place.

I've been recommended Melbourne Uni (with/out internship option) and Deakin as the best options, but happy to hear suggestions.

Also, would I be restricted to covering only specialist areas that were part of my majors, or are other options available?
I used to work at Deakin mind you it was a few years ago, internally the education school had a good reputation
 
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