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Just got back on the chalk today for the first time since moving to Germany. Bilingual English/German private school. Super chilled staff, chilled kids. Pretty pumped to land this jackpot. Going back to hospitality here for the first two years, I was shocked at how little staff get paid here compared to australia. Not a living wage that’s for sure
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I've had to take long service leave for the rest of the year for personal reasons. What do people think? Should teachers need to leave lesson plans while on long service leave? My school seems to think I should. I'm thinking GAGF.
I'm not sure on the rules or expectations. I took 2 weeks long service leave in November last year and had to leave lesson plans for all my classes for those 2 weeks.
Nope, not for personal leave. A holiday or renovating your house, yes. Not illness or personal though.
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I have a planner for each year level I teach, Y8, 9, 10, 11 and 12. My planner shows what I will be teaching each week, the resources I will use and the work students should complete each week. That is all I left when taking LSL. Technically you aren't required to leave anything but helping whoever replaces you is in your own best interests. After all you could be teaching those students the next year. I left a copy of all my resources on the network. It was up to them if they wanted to ignore them, use them or steal them.
Yeah this is good
When I took time off, I had already worked enough on the syllabus doc that every point had resources linked in, either websites or worksheets. It was up to the teacher how fast or slow they progressed.
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So I re-applied for my job in a Vic government school last week. Hoping I can get it again but I just feel so stressed and anxious about the process. I just feel so replaceable 
All of the feedback I've received from leadership has been positive but still I just feel like I could be out of a job and I can't stop thinking about it fml. Especially as I started mid year during remote learning so I feel like I haven't fully been able to show the school what I can do yet.
All of the feedback I've received from leadership has been positive but still I just feel like I could be out of a job and I can't stop thinking about it fml. Especially as I started mid year during remote learning so I feel like I haven't fully been able to show the school what I can do yet.
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I think it's only natural to be worried, anxious and stressed when reapplying for a contract position, so you aren't alone in your feelings.So I re-applied for my job in a Vic government school last week. Hoping I can get it again but I just feel so stressed and anxious about the process. I just feel so replaceable
All of the feedback I've received from leadership has been positive but still I just feel like I could be out of a job and I can't stop thinking about it fml. Especially as I started mid year during remote learning so I feel like I haven't fully been able to show the school what I can do yet.
Even though you may have started mid year you will have established some rapport with your students and with your leadership group. What you need to realise is that you have an advantage over other applicants in that the leadership group have already met you and appear to think you have potential, otherwise you wouldn't be getting positive feedback from them.
They know you. They obviously don't think you are weird.
With the time left this year, keep working on establishing your relationships with your students and other staff members. It all helps.
I wish you luck with your application, so you can really show the school how capable you are next year..
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Thank you, that definitely makes me feel a bit better. Now I'm stressing that I haven't done a good enough job of updating my selection criteria. That was really tough considering I've only actually taught at the school for 3 weeks. The rest being remote.
Anyway it's all submitted now so I guess I just have to wait and see. People around the school keep talking to me about next year so I'm taking that as a good sign and just trying not to get my hopes up too much as well.
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My first mentor said to me, "No point worrying about something you can't change, it may never happen. If it does happen then you can worry like buggery. But you should realise that either way it won't help and won't make you feel any better. If it does happen the only thing that will make you feel better is by doing something about it."
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I have all my planning on the school network but they wanted me to send in lesson plans every morning for the supply teacher. Bugger that. Anyway all sorted now. Internal teachers have taken my classes so it's all good.
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Any competent teacher should be able to teach without supplied lesson plans. I might do a quick outline before teaching a new topic, but it must be at least 40 years since I wrote a complete lesson plan.
That's a bit rough.
We have had a teacher do the same and how we went about it:
- Moved a teacher from another class into this one (as they needed some more experienced teacher)
- Merged smaller class that the above teacher moved from into other classes.
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Same. I have topic sequences for various classes and a study design that needs to be followed for senior classes.
I developed our school head start program this year after looking into the benefits of them for the Primary sector and those looking to transition into High school.
Basically the last two weeks of Term 4 are dedicated to being in the class that students are progressing to e.g If a child is in year 3, they spend 2 weeks in their Year 4 class. This could also work for students moving schools to help alleviate Anxiety, develop relationships with their new teacher and class peers and learn routines.
Surprised not many schools do this. I know they might have 1 day as a 'transition' but it isn't enough. My last school did 1hr on the very last day of Term 4 and for some students it was a blur.
Basically the last two weeks of Term 4 are dedicated to being in the class that students are progressing to e.g If a child is in year 3, they spend 2 weeks in their Year 4 class. This could also work for students moving schools to help alleviate Anxiety, develop relationships with their new teacher and class peers and learn routines.
Surprised not many schools do this. I know they might have 1 day as a 'transition' but it isn't enough. My last school did 1hr on the very last day of Term 4 and for some students it was a blur.
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Does anyone know where to get course advice as a mature-age student, or on how the process works? Just want all the options for studying teaching laid out in front of me. I have no idea how to do this, first degree was just end of Yr 12 through VTAC.
Does anyone know where to get course advice as a mature-age student, or on how the process works? Just want all the options for studying teaching laid out in front of me. I have no idea how to do this, first degree was just end of Yr 12 through VTAC.
I don't really trust any of those aggregation course-seeker websites to give you a thorough and up-to-date overview of the courses on offer.
You probably have a Uni campus or two in mind - depending on where you live. Just go to the website for each respective uni (Monash/Melb/LaTrobe/Swinburne/Deakin/ACU/VU) and look for Master of Teaching. It will then show you the specialisations on offer (early/primary/secondary) and the study modes (full-time/part-time/accelerated).
If you are going into secondary, you will need to check whether the Learning Areas on offer at any given uni match with your bachelor degree qualification requirements. You can see UoM's Learning Areas here for example.
Then you can start applying through the university website (not sure if this is still done via VTAC or whether it is a separate intake now - either way details are on the website).
Just finished my first half year as a primary school teacher after 3 years high school. All I can say is wow, what a difference. Pluses and minuses for both, but at the moment I’m really enjoying primary!
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I went the other way. Trained as primary but have now been teaching high school for the last ten years. I have enjoyed high school but miss a lot of things about primary. I can see myself going back to primary at some stage.
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Most course guidance stuff I've found is for current students only. And my questions are really unique to what I've studied, so I'm finding it hard to derive any value from the generic course information. Found a number for UniMelb which I'll give a crack tomorrow.
From what I gather, because my undergraduate degree doesn't relate to what I want to teach at Secondary level, I need to do another undergraduate (probably Arts) and do the proper major/minors as per the approved learning areas. Then do the Master of Teaching. By then I'll be about 106 years old, but such is life.
I teach both as a P-12 setting, but mainly teach those in the 9-15yrs range. I love that you can have a better conversation with the older years and some are better at reasoning.
With secondary age students, I find the attitude issues occur, but that is mostly testosterone and hormones kicking in.
But being at a special school, I also have to factor in the cognitive functioning as we deal with students who have an IQ of less than 70.
