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Catsmaninamerica

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Re reading their 22 From the weekend. Only McEvoy and impey who would get a game at the Cats. Maybe omeara if we had injuries. They’re that bad.
 

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Nice one deary, now put your dick away its not impressing anyone, the threads about Hawthorn who have won more flags in 8 years than your club in 60 yet still manage to look like a minnow.
Oh dear, you pathetic Hawfie flogs, get on here and defend yourselves you $hit trucks.

It's a sad indictment that the Hawf supporters cbf defending their own club, and even sadder that Richmond are going so badly that they find it easier to defend the Hawfies, than their own $hit truck club.

Neither of you knows how to pick rising star worthy youth, so a merger won't work - even if the takeover is almost complete.
 

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Re reading their 22 From the weekend. Only McEvoy and impey who would get a game at the Cats. Maybe omeara if we had injuries. They’re that bad.
McEvoy maybe. Where would you put Impey? Don't get me wrong, he is good - but I don't think he is "Geelong" good.
 

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Reading through the info below, hawthorn are in a world of hurt. Not only are they unable to score enough to win games - they haven’t kicked 100 points in a game all season, but when you look at their side on the weekend, it’s a mixture of old men who are absolutely finished, Untried youth who have shown very little promise in multiple seasons, a couple of very good players in their mid 20’s and some u tried Irishmen. They’ve got Mitchell to come back, and he’ll be a great addition, but they’ve sold themselves out of multiple drafts for omeara - who’s knees are shot - and Wingard - who’s at this stage a complete bust. Impey is twice the player Wingard is and has cost them a fraction of the price. They’re 4
Years of drafting/development away from getting decent players into the club, and that’s assuming they nail a couple of drafts. What we are seeing on the ladder now is a sign of what’s to come for multiple seasons for the hawks.

B: Obrien, Frawley, Burgoyne
HB: Nash, Sicily, Hardwick
C: Scully, Howe, Henderson
Hf: Breust, Gunston, Puopolo
Ff: Hanrahan, mcevoy, impey
R: Ceglar, omeara, worpel
IB: Shiel, smith, Moore, glass


Obrien - 7th year on the list for a total of 55 games. 25 years old. He’s the definition of the term most clogger

Frawley - about to turn 31 and an average full back at best.

Burgoyne - about to turn 37

Nash - Irishman with 11 games under his belt. Speculative pick at best.

Sicily - 24 years old, talent to burn, but forced to play as a key defender at 186cm which will burn him out. Also a worry that at 24, his discipline is still such an issue.

Hardwick - 22 year old 181cm player who’s shown enough to suggest he’s a solid player

Scully - 28 and a shadow of the player he was. List clogger unless he can somehow get his ankles right. But even if he does he’s 29 next year, and this seasons already a write off. What’s the purpose of an average 29 year old half back for 2 years when you’re not contending?

Howe - another mid sized player who’s been on the list 5 years for 55 games. On the precipice of list clogging status.

Henderson - about to turn 31, never been anything more than a foot solider.

Breust - about to turn 29, but frighteningly, has looked slow of late. Getting tackled inside 50 and turning the ball over. A shadow of the player he was, and not having premiership quality teammates around him has exposed him as being a good solid player as opposed to being a genuine star.

Puopolo - about to turn 32, and is finished. Slow, washed up and cooked. What’s frightening is that he’s clearly done, but there’s no one at box hill they deem good enough to push him out of the side.

Hanrahan - 19 years old and has played 1 game.

McEvoy - 30 years old in a week. Still playing good footy, but not the Brodie Grundy style match winner they probably hoped he was a couple of years ago.

Impey - about to turn 24 and a very good player. Good recruit.

Ceglar - 29 before next season starts. Not a star - a good honest battler.

Omeara - 26 before next season starts, but has the knees of a 35 year old. And that’s not a troll, he genuinely has knees that are cooked and need to be managed. And that’s evident in his patchy form. He’s very good some weeks and horrible others.

Worpel - big wraps on him from hawks fans, but still only 25 games into his career. Good signs early though.

Smith - about to turn 31. He’s done. Certainly won’t be there when they’re ready to Contend again. He’s holding someone else’s spot and chance to develop.

Shiels - 29 before next year begins. See notes on smith.

Moore - undersized almost 20 Year old who’s managed 7 games in 2 years.

Glass - Irishman who’s played 13 games.
from round 5: 6 months older

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from round 5: 6 months older

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Nice deflect. One side with 4 rising star nominees this year, the other who are bottom 4 and full of geriatrics and list cloggers

Serious question. Who, apart from impey and omeara will be there when hawthorn are a top 4 side again? You gave away the only good young player at the club in burton. If you’re wondering, go Read the OP again. It’s an incredibly insightful assessment into the state of the 22 you played on the weekend friend.
 

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Nice deflect. One side with 4 rising star nominees this year, the other who are bottom 4 and full of geriatrics and list cloggers

Serious question. Who, apart from impey and omeara will be there when hawthorn are a top 4 side again? You gave away the only good young player at the club in burton. If you’re wondering, go Read the OP again. It’s an incredibly insightful assessment into the state of the 22 you played on the weekend friend.

Got the distinct impression you were basing it on age, I must have misread, as you suggest.

BTW your pain will come simply from the cats losing this premiership, which is basically theirs to lose
 

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Got the distinct impression you were basing it on age, I must have misread, as you suggest.

BTW your pain will come simply from the cats losing this premiership, which is basically theirs to lose

I know this is the bay. But this thread raises serious and realistic points about the woeful state of the hawks list. And rather than explain or help randoms understand where the side are at, you come in and deflect then talk about Geelong. The OP isn’t about Geelong. There’s literally no need to talk about us, except the fact that we’re on top of the ladder and will 100% win the flag. Nothing surer.

Anyway. I’ll ask one more time, knowing you won’t answer it, because you’re a limp wristed flog.

But who on the current list at Hawthorn will play in their next premiership?
 

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I know this is the bay. But this thread raises serious and realistic points about the woeful state of the hawks list. And rather than explain or help randoms understand where the side are at, you come in and deflect then talk about Geelong. The OP isn’t about Geelong. There’s literally no need to talk about us, except the fact that we’re on top of the ladder and will 100% win the flag. Nothing surer.

Anyway. I’ll ask one more time, knowing you won’t answer it, because you’re a limp wristed flog.

But who on the current list at Hawthorn will play in their next premiership?
You owe me an avatar and a sig, yankee.

Hawks and Geelong are as old as each other. Last weekend both clocked in at 26y6m, equal second oldest behind Adelaide (26y9m). One of these teams is a chance, the other an embarrassment.

FYI, Swans were the youngest team of the round at 23y7m, one month younger than even Gold Coast
 

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You owe me an avatar and a sig, yankee.

Hawks and Geelong are as old as each other. Last weekend both clocked in at 26y6m, equal second oldest behind Adelaide (26y9m). One of these teams is a chance, the other an embarrassment.

FYI, Swans were the youngest team of the round at 23y7m, one month younger than even Gold Coast
And yet Adelaide seems to have the best profile for a flag right now. Their list has the most in their prime between 24 and 29yrs, at 14. Cats second best structured for now with 11, Hawks 9, Swans 7.

Little wonder Adelaide and Cats fielded more experience, they will be challenging for a flag.

Swans have no choice, their depth experience already eclipsed by the youth.

Hawfies on the other hand have no youth worthy of playing. They are not playing older guys because they are trying to make finals, that ship has sailed. Catsmaninamerica has a genuine point, in my opinion.
 

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And yet Adelaide seems to have the best profile for a flag right now. Their list has the most in their prime between 24 and 29yrs, at 14. Cats second best structured for now with 11, Hawks 9, Swans 7.

Little wonder Adelaide and Cats fielded more experience, they will be challenging for a flag.

Swans have no choice, their depth experience already eclipsed by the youth.

Hawfies on the other hand have no youth worthy of playing. They are not playing older guys because they are trying to make finals, that ship has sailed. Catsmaninamerica has a genuine point, in my opinion.
I think we’re on the same page. If you want an old team they need to be pushing for a flag, otherwise what’s the point?
 

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