Society/Culture This is straight out child abuse ("transgender" child)

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I mean... I've made that clear multiple times.

I even bolded it for you once.

It's one of the points you keep avoiding.
You’ve quoted yourself a lot of times, none of what you bolded I have disagreed with. It’s the other weasely statements I disagree with.
 

Ed_Gein

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woman
[ woo m-uh n ]

noun, plural wom·en [wim-in] .
the female human being, as distinguished from a girl or a man.
an adult female person.

Someone better tell the knuckleheads that run all the online dictionaries they're no longer up to speed with current cultural shifts! The bigots!
 

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So you agree, not a social construct. It derives from a fundamental unit of biology.

Well done, you got there.
Why did pants for blokes come about, though? Look at history

ANCIENT EGYPT

ANCIENT ROME

ANCIENT GREECE


It's only going further north that pants started to come into vogue - for men and women alike



Did the weather first necessitate covering the legs, then social dictates decide what women wore as cultures invaded each other over and over again and local attires were supressed?
 

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I think what we really need is a peer reviewed scientific paper by biologists that tell everyone that changing sex isn't possible so we can tackle the real issue thre's a mental health problem.
 

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Imagine how weird everyone would have thought the first tailor to make a pair of pants was.
Would have looked the height of fashion, tailored out of polar bear.

Good to see BF has grown up a little. I once copped a 1 day ban for saying doctors performing gender reallignment surgery on pre-pubescent kids was child abuse.

A friend of mine's daughter has decided to identify as a boy. She is tall and skinny so there are no physical barriers at the moment.

All the doctors and psychologists and psychiatrists have said it is most likely a phase and to let her do what is comfortable.

Problem is what happens with her friends when they find out she is a girl. And the bullies.

She is 12.
 

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Would have looked the height of fashion, tailored out of polar bear.

Good to see BF has grown up a little. I once copped a 1 day ban for saying doctors performing gender reallignment surgery on pre-pubescent kids was child abuse.

A friend of mine's daughter has decided to identify as a boy. She is tall and skinny so there are no physical barriers at the moment.

All the doctors and psychologists and psychiatrists have said it is most likely a phase and to let her do what is comfortable.

Problem is what happens with her friends when they find out she is a girl. And the bullies.

She is 12.
Kids these days are more educated and accepting than we were. Sometimes more educated and accepting than their parents or their parents friends.

And the reaction of any ignorant kids isn’t a reason to not do the right thing.
 

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All those mentally ill wrasses and moray eels!

Won’t somebody think of the fish!
Wrasses are a form of sequential hermaphrodites in the sense they produce eggs as a female when they are young and then sperm later in life when they become male. During both cycles they're able to reproduce.

But y'know, "Trans women are women!" I hear these angry SJW's cry, not hermaphrodites.

Or, has there been cases recently where a MTF trans has become pregnant (or a FTM trans inseminating a female) that I'm not aware of?
 

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Kids these days are more educated and accepting than we were. Sometimes more educated and accepting than their parents or their parents friends.

And the reaction of any ignorant kids isn’t a reason to not do the right thing.
Actually I think the reaction of those around you should play at least some part.

If there is a high risk of family or friend ostracism then that is going to have a significant impact.

Should it change what happens? No. But it has to play a part in how it is handled.
 
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