yes your equation is pathetically simplisitic as well as being pathetically one dimensional. "Highest picks doesnt nessecarily = best team" ...but it sure gives you a ****ing pretty big leg up to = one of the best teams and playing finals and providing a means for people to want to go and watch.
You base your assessment on 1 team that hasnt had less than no 7 pick, discounting the father son rule that dealt them a pretty ****ing good deal. You dont base your assessement on teams like the tankers, the aints, or the bullies that were down and out and now are not because of their high draft picks...forget about us, we are also the 1 team that you can base your assessment on that backs up your argument. That leaves 14 others that prove your theory absolutely WRONG.
Can't wait to see how they hold up to finals pressure with Setant as the pivot
Deledio pick 1
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sheesh gc have recryuited one of the most widely respected recruiting officers in the land. the simple fact is since 04 the top 7 picks from each draft have in the main been very good. the question you need ask is will gc 17 waste those picks not bloody likely.
No doubt that Clayton is a pretty decent recruiter but even he won't be able to nail every pick.
It might decrease the possibility of missing the great player/s, but when you go back and look at the drafts from 2000-2006 you will find that in each year there are a handful of players taken in the first round that fail for one reason or another.
Early openers this morning Cogga ?
LMAO @ a supposed "old head" thinking all the RFC's woes can be solved by top end draft picks
Remind me who all the top end draft picks are running around with the Bullies are again .
Remind me what Carlton have achieved again ? ... Yeah ... lets base our business model on Carltons
Riewoldt is the only player on St. Kildas list that you could genuinely mount a case for them benefitting from "bottoming out" ... Kosi ? ... LMAO ... The rest is just good list management structured over a long period of time with no better access to the draft than anyone else .
Go and abuse some granny in the supermarket for pushing her trolley into your leg you f..kin imbecile
Cooney(1), Griffen(3), Williams(6) Higgins(11), Murphy(13), Everitt(11).
Reiwoldt(1), Kochitzke(2), Goddard(1), Hayes(11), Dal Santo(13),
As for remind you what Carlton have achieved, dude, you would be pulling yourself red raw if we were in the position the blues are in atm. You might want to suck your thumb and live in a delusional state of mind,but the blues are where they are because of their bucket load of high draft picks and the addition of the ultimate gun to lead them. Right now they are going to make up the numbers, and they know it, purely because they have a makeshift FL that needs a spearhaed. Do you know what that means? Yep, next year they will go out and buy that missing piece of the puzzle. Then with another year of experience under the gun youngsters belts, and with the inclusion of a gun spearhead to boot, and gun ruckman a gun captain, they make the big push for the ultimate prize.
The difference between us and them is they didnt give a a rats arse what you or anyone outside the club was saying in the form of tanking. They tanked and now they are where they are at. The system was there, they saw that it gave them an opportunity to build by losing and they were smart and not ****ing like us, totally ****ing dumb.
Their supporters are partying because of it, while you and the rest of us are debating and arguing about why we are still on the bottom of the ****ing laddder, after we were locked and loaded you stupid fool.
Man you need to take your head out of your arse...and get some fresh air.
Man you need to take your head out of your arse...and get some fresh air.
Cooney(1), Griffen(3), Williams(6) Higgins(11), Murphy(13), Everitt(11).
Reiwoldt(1), Kochitzke(2), Goddard(1), Hayes(11), Dal Santo(13),
As for remind you what Carlton have achieved, dude, you would be pulling yourself red raw if we were in the position the blues are in atm. You might want to suck your thumb and live in a delusional state of mind,but the blues are where they are because of their bucket load of high draft picks and the addition of the ultimate gun to lead them. Right now they are going to make up the numbers, and they know it, purely because they have a makeshift FL that needs a spearhaed. Do you know what that means? Yep, next year they will go out and buy that missing piece of the puzzle. Then with another year of experience under the gun youngsters belts, and with the inclusion of a gun spearhead to boot, and gun ruckman a gun captain, they make the big push for the ultimate prize.
The difference between us and them is they didnt give a a rats arse what you or anyone outside the club was saying in the form of tanking. They tanked and now they are where they are at. The system was there, they saw that it gave them an opportunity to build by losing and they were smart and not ****ing like us, totally ****ing dumb.
Their supporters are partying because of it, while you and the rest of us are debating and arguing about why we are still on the bottom of the ****ing laddder, after we were locked and loaded you stupid fool.
Man you need to take your head out of your arse...and get some fresh air.
I've got a task for you, get the top 10 draft picks from any of the years 2000-2004, thats 5 drafts, and put them into a hat, then get you and 4 other people to take picks, with you getting 1, 2, 3, 5, 7 & 9 while they get 1 pick each. If you manage to land 6 players that are now considered established stars I'd be amazed.
If you look back at the history of the draft, not one year has had every first round pick succeed, yet people seem to think that because GC/GWS have access to 9 of the first 15 picks they are going to get 10 year 200 game players with every pick.
So you did like everyone else and just looked at the players picked with the picks GC/GWS have. Of course if you look at it in isolation like that it looks like GC/GWS are getting great deal, the problem is they still have to pick.
I'm not some all knowing master of football, just someone who is looking at things differently to everyone else. Everyone looks at the players taken in previous years with the picks GC/GWS have and thinks that these 2 sides will automatically get the same quality of player, when in reality that just won't happen.
I never said they won't be competitive, I just don't think they will be the all conquering team that some are suggesting. While they got access to the best of the 17 year olds there is no guarantee that everyone of those 12 kids will turn out to be a 10 year 200 gamer. In all likelihood they will get 5-6 if they are lucky. Take a look back at the first 2 rounds of the 1999-2000 drafts. There were 34 players picked, of those only 14 players have managed to play 150 or more thats a 41% success rate. Applying that to the 21 kids the GC will have taken with the 17 year olds and first round picks and its possible that around 8-9 are a chance of being 10 year players.
Yet they are going be a powerhouse within 2 years, not without a lot of hard work.
People look at his first draft where he landed guys like Giansiracusa Murphy Hahn Gilbee and Hargraeve and say he must be a great recruiter. He is still prone to the odd error at the draft table: McMahon Birss Power McGuiness Walsh Faulkner Brad Murphy Ray Wells McCormack are all players he picked in the first 3 rounds in his time at the Dogs that failed to make it. You could also add Everitt and Williams to that list if you wanted to get technical. Like I said just because Clayton is highly rated doesn't mean he is incapable of making the wrong call at the draft table.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'm not saying they won't be competitive, I just don't think they will be all conquering like everyone else does.
