this year possible top 20

[Artful_Dodger]

If that comes to fruition, then theres some of the biggest bargains in recent years, all in the same draft.

Getting the most possies in the TAC, and averaging 25+ touches at the champs, is definately an improvement for Grigg.

"Very top age" think about what your saying, if he is draftable, then he is like every other guy for the last 2 decades. 6 months older than another guy means bugger all, all kids develop at different ages. He has talent, he isnt there because of a physical dominance.]

Hurley - they said the same about Swallow. I dont know what "AFL" level really means. Because only really the top 10% of the AFL can hit forwards lace out, the rest are about the same, bar the bottom 10% and players like Brady Rawlings have shown they are still extremely valuable at the top level.

If they pick Krakeour early purely because of his physical results at the camp, then its a severe reach imo, the natural "footballing" talent in this draft is alot higher than normal, and for that reason, Krakeour wont go in the first round.

Grigg might get the ball 25 times but it what he does with it that matters. That side of his game has not improved or his decision making he is a turnover merchant that will cost your side too much in the AFL.

Allen is physically developed and has very little scope left and being his age does matter a great deal. Clubs would rather take for example Jarryd Morton who is bottom age in the National Draft because they cant Rookie him. Whereas they can take Allen in the Rookie Draft because he is top age. Clubs love guys that have scope and will develop in their system. Allen's talent allows him to have a large influence at the momment but will struggle to take the next step into the AFL when the bigger guys around him get quicker and run a lot better than he does.

At least Swallow could kick it over 45 metres I think Hurley struggles to get a kick over 25 metres.

Krakouer will go in the first round because he is quick, skillful and has a bit of x-factor about him plus he has huge scope to improve and is a great kid. He is a natural footballer, it is in his blood and in those terms would be right up there in this draft. All clubs are searching for quick and skillful players and Krakouer certaintly fits that description.

 

[goal sneak]

1. Gibbs
2. Gumbleton
3. Hansen
4. Luenburger
5. Selwood
6. Thorp
7. Sellar
8. Riewoldt
9. Jetta
10. N.Brown
11. Proud
12. Armitage
13. Collard
14. Hilsop
15. Benjamin
16. McKenzie
17. Allen
18. Reid
19. Houli
20. O'Brien

 

[PHANTOMS_20]

Your hearing different to me then

i with u sellar wont slide. the clubs no of his illness and trouble from waht i hear they think it is a miracle that he didnt miss any games.
the kid might hav a ticker after all

 

[sinepari]

We know your connections with Sellar, Phantoms, you don't have to pretend.

 

[macca69]

Queries over Sellar's kicking action and what position he play in the AFL. If Port doesnt take Sellar at 5 he will slip all the way to Adelaide at 14.

Riewoldt is over rated on this board. Lazy, weak and soft player that if he had a different surname would not be even mentioned.

Hurley will be lucky to be drafted in the top 90. His kicking is not up to AFL standard. Best possible chance is as a Port or Adelaide rookie.

Grigg can be taken as a rookie due to his age so he will probably be overlooked by clubs and taken then. Hasnt improved much from 2005, still doing the selfish lazy soft things and this will go against him. 20m time at draft camp might be his saving grace.

Allen very top age, lacks a yard, awkward mover and suspect kicking action will struggle to be taken inside the top 50. Likely case as a rookie.

Big bolter is Krakouer lot of clubs are eyeing him off with a first round pick due to his pace and his ability to do the magical things.

Sellar will not slide out of the top 7 IMO.

I agree Riewoldt is overated on this board, but what you have said is over the top.

I agree that Hurley's kicking may see him slide, but it wouldn't surprise me if a club used an earlyish pick on him. He's one that's very hard to pick.

Grigg I'm not sold on either and I expect him to go around 30-50 odd.

Strongly disagree in regards to Allen, he will go early.

I agree about Kraks though, he could really bolt.

 

[Artful_Dodger]

Sellar will not slide out of the top 7 IMO.

I agree Riewoldt is overated on this board, but what you have said is over the top.

I agree that Hurley's kicking may see him slide, but it wouldn't surprise me if a club used an earlyish pick on him. He's one that's very hard to pick.

Grigg I'm not sold on either and I expect him to go around 30-50 odd.

Strongly disagree in regards to Allen, he will go early.

I agree about Kraks though, he could really bolt.

Probably a bit too harsh on Riewoldt I concede that point, I think he will be picked but I wouldnt take him.

Disagree on Hurley I think he is an easy one to pick he is small, lacks pace and cant kick is an easy player to define for mine.

What is the attraction of Allen Macca69? I just cant see it.

 

[Richo83]

If Sellar falls to pick 8 I would think (and hope) that Richmond would jump at Sellar. He seems to be one of the top KPP of this year and has good KPP credentials, as well of having the ability to go in the ruck for periods. However, I fear that he will be taken early. I can't see Sellar falling to pick 14, he is always referred with Hansen, Gumby and Thorp as the top 4 KPP of this draft.

 

[macca69]

Probably a bit too harsh on Riewoldt I concede that point, I think he will be picked but I wouldnt take him.

Disagree on Hurley I think he is an easy one to pick he is small, lacks pace and cant kick is an easy player to define for mine.

What is the attraction of Allen Macca69? I just cant see it.

I think you have to see a fair bit of Allen to realise how good he could be. Unfortunatly at this stage he really lacks consistancy, but he looks like a million dollars when he is on. Is 195 odd cm's can play at either end, can read the play and is an excellent contested mark. Easily has enough ability to make it, but it's just his lack of consistancy that's a worry atm. I expect him to go between 15-25.

 

[rule of four]

Leuey at 3? Doubt it. 1,2 or 4. Not 3.

I agree that he wont go at 3, but Essendon have more rucks than Kangaroos! Hille, Ryder, Laycock and Cartledge, and then you add Leuenberger to them...it would be crazy. He might even fall to Hawthorn and make a good team with Bailey. I cannot think of one good reason why he would come to Essendon, especially since we just signed Laycock for 2 years

 

[kidneyhawks]

Im surprised tippett isnt higher up, the kid is a gun and he is tall. He is only reasonably new to the game so he has a heap of potential

 

[sinepari]

I agree that he wont go at 3, but Essendon have more rucks than Kangaroos! Hille, Ryder, Laycock and Cartledge, and then you add Leuenberger to them...it would be crazy. He might even fall to Hawthorn and make a good team with Bailey. I cannot think of one good reason why he would come to Essendon, especially since we just signed Laycock for 2 years

Leuey will be a better player than Hille and Laycock. Hence I'm sure they're at least interested.

 

[gibbyman]

Re: this year possible top 21

1 - Gibbs
2 - Hansen
3 - Gumbleton
4 - Thorpe
5 - Leunberger
6 - Reiwoldt
7 - Selwood
8 - Sellar
9 - Proud
10 -Zarra
11 - Jetta
12 - Collard
13 - Allen
14 - Benjamin
15 - Hislop
16 - M Brown
17 - N Brown
18 - Renouf
19 - Mourish
20 - Armitage
21 - Reid

 

[daveyboy3]

Leuey will be a better player than Hille and Laycock. Hence I'm sure they're at least interested.

Depends if Essendon deem him better player than Hansen, Gumbleton or Gibbs, and if so by how much. Because if they rate two of the above the same, I'd say they would go with either the KPP players or Gibbs simply becasue our ruck stocks are better than our key backs/midfield.

 

[sinepari]

Yeah, that's stating the obvious but there is strong talk that Sheeds love Leuey.

 

[EssendonPride]

Any chance Essendon or Carlton could pick up both the browns??

I may be imagining this but i think i recall reading somewhere they're brothers?

I'd ask for details but i'm sure they're a round somewhere.. Off for a search

 

[borderbarry]

If the Saints cant get a big ruckman before the draft, they may go for the best available at Pick 9, which would mean Renouf.

Could then look something like this..
1 - Gibbs
2 - Hansen
3-, Gumbleton
4 - Thorpe
5 - Leunberger
6 - Selwood
7 - Sellar
8 - Reiwold
9 - Renouf
10 -Proud
11- Jetta
12 - Armitage
13 - Collard
14 - Hislop
15 - Benjamin
16 - N. Brown
17 - Reid
18 - McKenzie
19 - Allen
20 - Mourish

 

[Rough_Edges]

We won't go for a ruckman or Riewoldt.

Selwood, Proud and Armitage are about the only 3 who we are thinking about.

 

[mad-saint-guy]

In the unlikely scenario that both Proud and Selwood are taken, who would be better for St Kilda out of Armitage or Hislop?

 

[Wells Train]

2 weeks ago the top three were gibbs, gumby and hansen. This made me happy because i'm a fan of hansen. I've noticed a lot of posters listing him at two. Thoughts on will he really be at the bombers or the roos would be interesting, obviously i prefer the latter as i don't know much about gumby

 

[tiger4life]

1. Gibbs
2. Gumbleton
3. Hansen
4. Thorp
5. Selwood
6. Leuenberger
7. Sellar
8. Jetta
9. Proud
10. Riewoldt
11. N. Brown
12. Connors
13. Armitage
14. Hislop
15. Mackenzie
16. Collard
17. O' Brien
18. Houli
19. Reid
20. Benjamin

 

[macca69]

everyone give me there possible top 20 n ill see what everyone says and put an average one on the bored ok so get yoyr lists in thanks fellas look foward to reading a few

we gonna get an average top 20 up soon mate?

 

[macca69]

1- Gibbs
2- Gumbleton
3- Hansen
4- Leunenberger
5- Thorp
6- Selwood
7- Proud
8- Reid
9- N.Brown
10- Petterd
11- Krakouer
12- Boak
13- Hislop
14- M.Brown
15- Sellar
16- Renouf
17- Tippett
18- Djerrkura
19- Armitage
20- Houlihan

very interesting top 20, one of the better ones on the thread

Interesting you have Krakouer going first round, which I 100% agree with, although your the first one on BF I've seen with the same opinion.

Also think your right about Reid, Tippett, N. Brown, Petterd and Renouf, all will go first round or very close to it.

However could I get your reasoning on Boak, M. Brown and Houlihan, what makes you think they'll go first round?

Also strongly disagree in regards to Sellar, he won't slide IMO.

Always good to see people's opinions differ from the BF norm, good job

 

[sinepari]

I wouldn't be surpised to see Boak go earlier than predicted. I have him top 20 atm.

 

[macca69]

I could see him maybe pushing top 20, but pick 12 in this draft I cant see happening. Could easily be wrong though, just think there will be more talented players available at #12.

 

[Embers]

IMO the top 20 will go like

1. Bryce Gibbs
2. Joel Selwood
3. Scott Gumbleton
4. Matt Leunberger
5. Mitch Thorp
6. Lachlan Hansen
7. James Sellar
8. Al Proud
9. N.Brown
10. Leroy Jetta
11. Jack Riewoldt
12. Daniel Connors
13. Ben Reid
14. Tom Hislop
15. Kirk Tippett
16. Eric McKenzie
17. Brent Renouf
18. Clayton Collard
19. Brock O Brien
20. Caleb Mourish