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WTF?
Look buddy, I was just suggesting that playing professional footy would be no easy thing. In fact, I imagine* it would be much harder than what you have suggested 'real' jobs are.

If you think it would be easier then cool. All good. Just differening opinion buddy.

(* the use of this word indicates that I am not a professional footballer and I'm sure anywhere have I suggested or implied as much)
I don't know, I think maybe being stuck in a low paid menial job that you hate with no prospects of advancement for the next 40 yrs might be harder, it's subjective I guess.
 

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I don't know, I think maybe being stuck in a low paid menial job that you hate with no prospects of advancement for the next 40 yrs might be harder, it's subjective I guess.
^This.

No doubt, it's tough being a professional athlete, lots of hard work involved. But at the end of the day, they're playing a game they love for a living, and getting paid bucket loads of cash for doing so.

I'd take that over the daily grind of sales and negotiation any day (and I actually quite like my job, unlike a lot of people).
 

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I don't know, I think maybe being stuck in a low paid menial job that you hate with no prospects of advancement for the next 40 yrs might be harder...


it's subjective I guess.
I started studying to be an accountant.

I also washed floors, toilets and dishes whilst at uni.

I'd take option b every time.

(But still they'd be putting mad hours into staying fit)
 

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Great song. Interesting thing with Cromwell is that he left his home area virtually untouched. This is why so many beautiful churches survived in East Anglia.
If you're talking Cromwell, someone must mention how he ends up (or at least the top off him!)

And to be honest, I reckon a few from this board would happily dig up stuff from the past...
 

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^This.

No doubt, it's tough being a professional athlete, lots of hard work involved. But at the end of the day, they're playing a game they love for a living, and getting paid bucket loads of cash for doing so.

I'd take that over the daily grind of sales and negotiation any day (and I actually quite like my job, unlike a lot of people).
Which I guess is why you expect and hope that they will not respond to temptation with the attitude of a normal,young man working an ordinary job. AFL players are highly paid athletes, and whether they like it or not, role models. They have much to lose in terms of money, lifestyle and respect.
 

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I started studying to be an accountant.

I also washed floors, toilets and dishes whilst at uni.

I'd take option b every time.

(But still they'd be putting mad hours into staying fit)
absolutely nothing worthwhile is easy, I subscribe to the saying 'if you do what you love then you never work a day in your life'
 

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Which I guess is why you expect and hope that they will not respond to temptation with the attitude of a normal,young man working an ordinary job. AFL players are highly paid athletes, and whether they like it or not, role models. They have much to lose in terms of money, lifestyle and respect.
Yeah, respectfully disagree.

They are human. They shouldn't be role models. They should be good footballers. I'd never tell my child to be like a footballer, only to play like one.
 

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Yeah, respectfully disagree.

They are human. They shouldn't be role models. They should be good footballers. I'd never tell my child to be like a footballer, only to play like one.
It doesn't really matter whether you think they should be role models or not. Once they are in the public eye, once kids start running around with their numbers on their backs, they become a role model.

I was more in to cricket than footy growing up. My hero was Ricky Ponting. I wanted to be just like him, and early on in his career he was a party boy. I thought he was dead cool. Thankfully he cleaned up his act, became an even better cricketer, and I was able to see the virtue in hard work over just relying on natural talent.

We are all human. We all make mistakes. But high profile guys like footy players need to be more aware of how they behave in public and what they do that might damage their profile. Because yes, they are role models, whether they like it or not.
 

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What I find kind of ironical is that under the Oliver Cromwell of AFL coaching, Nathan Buckley, the puritan who has weeded out all the dissenters, imbibers and drug takers from his squad, we are the second AFL team to be disciplined for performance enhancing drugs and have the first player double header. Cleanliness in our case is not next to Godliness.
Just when I thought things couldn't get any worse, you mention that bastard Cromwell! Is the Curse of Cromwell then the curse that seems to hang over Buckley's head?

If these lads have taken drugs of any sort I'd be infuriated. Life in footy is short, and they would be well advised to deny themselves those questionable pleasures until they've hung up the boots. The likely loss of 2 senior players will affect our chances of doing well this year. Maybe I won't get access to that grand final ticket that my Legends membership entitles me to, but I fiercely resent a players compromising out chances before the year even begins.
 

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Just when I thought things couldn't get any worse, you mention that bastard Cromwell! Is the Curse of Cromwell then the curse that seems to hang over Buckley's head?
What didn't you like about Cromwell? The kicking out the monarchy bit or the reinstating the monarchy bit?
 

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Just when I thought things couldn't get any worse, you mention that bastard Cromwell! Is the Curse of Cromwell then the curse that seems to hang over Buckley's head?

If these lads have taken drugs of any sort I'd be infuriated. Life in footy is short, and they would be well advised to deny themselves those questionable pleasures until they've hung up the boots. The likely loss of 2 senior players will affect our chances of doing well this year. Maybe I won't get access to that grand final ticket that my Legends membership entitles me to, but I fiercely resent a players compromising out chances before the year even begins.
The Irish are not too fond of him. Maybe Eddie and Bucks are not that close after all.
 

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It doesn't really matter whether you think they should be role models or not. Once they are in the public eye, once kids start running around with their numbers on their backs, they become a role model.

I was more in to cricket than footy growing up. My hero was Ricky Ponting. I wanted to be just like him, and early on in his career he was a party boy. I thought he was dead cool. Thankfully he cleaned up his act, became an even better cricketer, and I was able to see the virtue in hard work over just relying on natural talent.

We are all human. We all make mistakes. But high profile guys like footy players need to be more aware of how they behave in public and what they do that might damage their profile. Because yes, they are role models, whether they like it or not.
Cool. I loved Darren Milane as a kid.

I still respect his footballing ability.

I'll tell my kids to play footy like a footballer.

I'll tell them to look up to people like Oscar Wilde, Neslon Mandela, etc...

Oh, & by the way, Tony Abbott is in the public eye & ate an effin Raw onion.

Shit argument is shit.
 

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Cool. I loved Darren Milane as a kid.

I still respect his footballing ability.

I'll tell my kids to play footy like a footballer.

I'll tell them to look up to people like Oscar Wilde, Neslon Mandela, etc...

Oh, & by the way, Tony Abbott is in the public eye & ate an effin Raw onion.

Shit argument is shit.
Kids pay attention to what their kids tell them to do these days?

Either you don't remember being a kid, or you were one of the odd ones out who actually listened to their parents.

Also, kids pay no attention to politics until they're young adults. Not sure why eating a raw onion can even be regarded in the same league as taking coke.

I think you might be confused as to who is throwing out the shit arguments here...
 
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