- Jan 12, 2011
- AFL Club
Excellent work from Senator Patrick. With the Labor Party wedged into supporting the Coalition Government on the nuclear subs issue and AUKUS, it seems he is the only politician prepared to ask the obvious questions on what will be the largest single defence expenditure in Australian history.
perhaps the US will be using Australia's nuclear technology, which is more than likely“If the U.S. is allowing Australia to have access to its nuclear technology,” he added, “it’s because the U.S. expects Australia to be deploying its forces in a potential war with China.”
For now, the Australian government appears to view even that risk as worth taking on. James Curran, a historian of Australian foreign relations at the University of Sydney, called the decision to double down on the United States “the biggest strategic gamble in Australian history.”
“Australia is betting its house,” he said, “on the U.S. maintaining its resolve and will.”
Less than three years ago, Australia’s leader said his country need not choose between the U.S. and China. A nuclear submarine deal shows that much has changed since then.www.nytimes.com
err take a look at the map and have a think.From who? NZ?
These nuclear powered subs will not even start to be built in the next 10 years, if at all, and their power plants will not be fitted or maintained in Adelaide even if they actually do get built.
What does Australia look like if AUKUS does not proceed ?These nuclear powered subs will not even start to be built in the next 10 years, if at all, and their power plants will not be fitted or maintained in Adelaide even if they actually do get built.
AUKUS is a short-medium term defence strategy aimed directly at curtailing China aggression over the next 2- 20 years. Seems pretty obvious that it is not dependent on the building of new subs for Australia that won't hit the water until at least 2045 but rather providing base(s) for US (and possibly UK) nuclear powered (and armed) submarines and vessels in Australia.
This is the critical part of the AUKUS announcement that has not even been discussed with the Australian people.
My comment was about the observation that the LNP Government has bungled major defence decisions and and foreign diplomatic relations from day 1. And the decision to dump their own submarine contract and to replace it with yet another committee is but one example of that.What does Australia look like if AUKUS does not proceed ?
With a Labor Government looking more likely by the day, will Defence be an issue?
My comments were in the context of a change of Government & the greatest threat to the Australian mainland since WW2. IF China takes Taiwan, we are a soft target for China to bring a weak USA (tired of fighting other peoples battles) to the table.My comment was about the observation that the LNP Government has bungled major defence decisions and and foreign diplomatic relations from day 1. And the decision to dump their own submarine contract and to replace it with yet another committee is but one example of that.
Foreign relations and defence for a small country like Australia is far more than just a matter of writing cheques to the US and making hollow promises to others. It requires hard work and nuanced and intelligent long term relationship building and on the ground aid work to our regional neighbours.
Of course when it comes to spending up big on Defence and committing young Australians to questionable conflicts at the behest of the US, the Liberals have no peer. But that spending comes at an enormous cost to other government activities, such as foreign aid and a destruction of our international reputation:
Hopefully with a change of government Australia will start to see a return to a more considered and strategic approach to our international relationships and with it the repair of our once proud international reputation.
And for the record, the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, which you quoted, has taken an active role in promoting the AUKUS announcement. This should come as no surprise as it was established and it is jointly funded by the US Government, US defence contractors and the Australian Department of Defence. It (and the academics and public speakers it funds) has an overwhelming bias towards AUKUS and pump priming our defence spending with the US.