Remove this Banner Ad

Thoughts on Player Payments

  • Thread starter Thread starter CJH
  • Start date Start date
  • Tagged users Tagged users None

🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.

CJH

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Oct 20, 2000
Posts
6,149
Reaction score
80
Location
Belgrave
AFL Club
Richmond
Other Teams
Richmond
It was recently announced that a News Limited led consortium comprising Channel 9, Channel 10, Foxtel and Telstra had been awarded the rights to broadcast AFL football for 5 years commencing in 2002.

This consortium will be paying somewhere in the order of $500 million dollars for this privilege - more than double what Channel 7 are paying under the current agreement.

It has been reported - although not substantiated - that as part of the Collective Agreement between the AFL and the AFL Players Association that 85% of the revenue increases must go to the players in the form of increased payments.

Regardless of whether this is correct or not, what is clear is that there is this ready acceptance of the line continually being pushed by the player managers that the players deserve more money, that in fact they are poorly paid for what they do, yada yada yada...

This all appears well and rosy in this post TV Rights euphoria, with all the powers that be patting themselves on the back for doing such a great service!

I am not quite so convinced! I have two issues with this situation that acts as a wet blanket on my enthusiasm!

This inflation is unsustainable

The first issue I have with the TV Rights revenue and the player's stranglehold over it is that this level of inflation is clearly unsustainable. As the AFL were able to secure a bid worth $500 million over the 5 years this huge windfall will be used to fuel inflation with the salary cap expanding to accommodate this.

The AFL is prepared to withstand a $15 million deficit through the 2001 season in order to assist the clubs to meet the escalating wages bill that has inflated dramatically - and unsustainably - just in ancticpation of these funds.

What happens in 5 years time when we are up for renewing the TV Rights? What if, in 5 years Channel 7 are very comfortable and profitable making Blue Heelers spin off's and have no interest in bidding for the AFL football rights.

What if there is no competition to the Channel 9 consortium?

You can then bet that they won't be paying top dollar for the privilege of broadcasting the AFL - just enough to keep say Channel 10 or Foxtel from taking outright ownership. What if the next bout of TV Rights only yields say $250 million for the next 5 years?

All of a sudden you have clubs with massive wages bills and without the revenue streams with which to support it. This could well drive clubs to the wall. Any Club. My Club! I don't want that!

Players or Club?

As much as I cheer on our current crop of players with all the passion and enthusiasm that befits a Tiger, I know that in 15 years time it is unlikely that any of them will still be playing. There will no longer be Richo, Knighter or Cambo. No, in their place will be a whole new crop of stars, hopefuls and ordinary players. And good luck to them all as well.

Understand this. It is not the players I really care about. They are transient. They come. They go. Some stay on with the club and ultimately become regarded as champions. Some leave to find there fortunes elsewhere. At any rate, they all are only temporary.

What I really do care about is the clubs! In particular, the Richmond Football Club. Established in 1885. Winner of 10 premierships. 5 Brownlow Medal winners. I loved them before Richo was even born!

I want my club to survive! I want all clubs to survive! I don't want this greedy grab by the players to be threatening our existence - which is exactly what it is doing!

This has got to stop!

What I would much rather see is only conservative increases in the salary cap and with a more substantial portion of it being paid to the clubs in the form of a capital grant - in much the same manner as the 'Last Rights' payment was - so that clubs can do something like build a new gym or a swimming pool or an indoor training facility.

This way, both the current and future players receive benefit of this windfall, and the clubs develop the financial strength that enables them to prosper into the future.

That way, everybody wins!


------------------
TigerFury.net - Independant Richmond Tigers website
 
Hawkeye2001,

What about the "interstate clubs", don't you want them to survive too.
rolleyes.gif
 
Originally posted by Same Old's:
Hawkeye2001,

What about the "interstate clubs", don't you want them to survive too.

I think they're pretty much assured already. No matter how much financial trouble they get into, they AFL will pump more money into them.
 

Log in to remove this Banner Ad

Originally posted by Hawkeye2001:
I think they're pretty much assured already. No matter how much financial trouble they get into, they AFL will pump more money into them.

But if the value of TV rights goes down, as CJH said might happen, the AFL won't have enough money to "pump into them".
 
Originally posted by Same Old's:
But if the value of TV rights goes down, as CJH said might happen, the AFL won't have enough money to "pump into them".


Well they've never had trouble finding the money in the past have they.
 
Well in the past the value of the TV rights revenue has always gone up thereby the AFL has kept on getting more revenue every few years.

This may not be the case in future, as others have pointed out.
 
Originally posted by Same Old's:
Well in the past the value of the TV rights revenue has always gone up thereby the AFL has kept on getting more revenue every few years.

This may not be the case in future, as others have pointed out.

LET ME ASSURE YOU - non-victorian clubs haven't got anything to worry about!
 
It might interest you to know that the value of broadcast rights to any major sport anywhere in the world has not gone down when the contract is up for re-negotiation.

And it does not seem to matter whether it is just one single monopoly player or a competition between two or more players.

The value of the product increases - everytime.

The AFL rights will be no different in 2007. It won't matter whether Nine / Ten / Foxtel is the only hat in the ring or whether they will have competitors, I absolutely guarantee you that the value of the broadcast rights will not be less than the 2002 deal - even allowing for inflation.

cheers
 
Great post CJH.

Aggre with BSA that the value will go up, what I would be more concerned about is how much the consortium will want for their money next time around. Particuarly if they are the only bidder. How much frieda air coverage will there be then? How much say will they have into scheduling? There are a whole range of issues involved there.

The point about supporting your club is spot on though.
 
CJH,

Brilliant!

100% agreement from me.

The players are doing very nicely thank you very much.

What the greedy player managers don't seem to realise is that if any clubs go out of "business" then all the players from that club won't be paid anything at all.

I also have my concerns about the next range of TV rights. I accept that the price probably won't go down but if the consortium is the only real contender (as seems at least possible) then I can see them dictating terms in regards to free to air coverage in particular.
 

Remove this Banner Ad

yeah, how long til a Beckham type salary for players?

its very disheartening to know ur paying a player a fortune, and they dont put their body on the line in matchs for the club.
 
Originally posted by Hawkeye2001:
I think they're pretty much assured already. No matter how much financial trouble they get into, they AFL will pump more money into them.

Spot on, just look at Sydney. The AFL eventually got them into a GF now they have to get them to win it.
 
Originally posted by CJH:


What I would much rather see is only conservative increases in the salary cap and with a more substantial portion of it being paid to the clubs in the form of a capital grant - in much the same manner as the 'Last Rights' payment was - so that clubs can do something like build a new gym or a swimming pool or an indoor training facility.

This way, both the current and future players receive benefit of this windfall, and the clubs develop the financial strength that enables them to prosper into the future.

That way, everybody wins!

An articulate and well thought out article CJH. I agree with your sentiments that the players come and go but the clubs will always be there (one hopes).

Player managers and a certain number of egotistical club administrators who want to buy success (I cannot believe it is not Butter has joined this group)are destroying the essence of the game.

Those running the game, the players and there agents have fed the mantra that they are underpaid so much that it has become accepted as fact. There is no other industry or profession in Australia (including the IT and executive industry) that have received the increases that players have over the last 5 years.

The money from the TV rights deal should be given to the clubs to improve training facilities at grounds and supporter infrastructure such as social clubs (which will in return attract more people)

Giving the money to the players is a waste. How hypocritical to say that they only play to win a premiership. What a crock.
 
hmmmmmm

very well written CJH I agree 85% !!!

I see at the moment a problem where money goes to the clubs and you end up with extreme competition in non-player areas of the sport. Port, Crows, Bombers, Eagles etc all have more money than they really need, so it goes into more coaches, bigger gyms, psychologists etc so they end up spending it all regardless.

A club like North thinks they can't compete if they don't have 38 players and 38 coaching staff so they follow suit and get into trouble. The salary cap itself causes that problem, in that prior to the salary cap the money went on players....now it goes on swimming pools. As non-profit organisations they will spend it on whatever they think will give them a competitive advantage.

Me thinks that most of the dough should be kept by the AFL and used to support the infrastructure of the game (country clubs and leagues) as well as developing the game further into NSW & QLD. The AFL won't do this because they have a conflict of interest, they only act in the interest of the AFL (and the clubs) not football as a whole and too often the two are seen as one and the same, which of course they are not.

In essence....you can give it to the players, or you can give it to the clubs...either way it gets spent.

There was also an interesting article in the Economist about a month back looking at English Soccer, and commenting that the TV market was essesntially saturated and that they could not see revenue growing from that source indefinatley. All the more reason to spend the dough now as an investment in the game, rather than on expense items such as Wayne Carey.

ptw
 
ptw,

I think that we both agree in principle, in that we wish to see this windfall invested in the future of the game. I don't have any problems with your suggestion, although being conservative in nature means that I rather invest in something tangible.

BSA,

I take you point of the historical aspect of TV Rights values - the next round of TV Rights negotiations should yield $600 million in order to be on par with the current values (factoring 3% inflation each year).

It will be interesting to see the value and growth of the Internet Rights - these were excluded from the current round.

Either way, I don't want to see it all go on player expenses.

------------------
TigerFury.net - Independant Richmond Tigers website
 

🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.

Remove this Banner Ad

Remove this Banner Ad

🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.

Back
Top Bottom