News Three "hub" isolation zones plan

[Purple Suit]

The Andrews Government did 17,000 of the 34,000 tests done today, they have done more testing this week then WA has since day 1. Pretty obvious only 1 state is taking this expanded testing approach while the others are content not to see the real figures and just get the economy going again, NSW is still leading the way on community transmission.

Victoria taking that different philosophical approach could mean the end of any AFL season before it starts, highly likely Victoria will maintain stricter rules for longer and with this max 2 months away stuff they would only get 5 games in and be back home in lockdown for 2 weeks. That would result in us being through 6 rounds by the start of august, highly unlikely we get in another 11 rounds + finals before Christmas.

Victoria has also had more community transmission this week than WA has had for the entire pandemic.

Sure, testing helps expose it but hotspots show up eventually if you miss them.

I agree with the hardline Vic State rules approach being a massive risk to the AFL. If only they had another option....

 

[WillHayward]

Perth is the most isolated capital city in the world that is a fact

You can argue all you want but these are facts

Honolulu

 

[WillHayward]

Watched the 1971 grand final a few weeks back.
120 odd thousand fantlatical fans attended.
Many more watched on tv.
Victoria entire population was only 2 million.

I'll bet wafl and SANFL and finals back then we're also huge.

The game is a cultural phenomenon. A quasi religion.

We have now all been brainwashed into thinking the game needs billion dollar broadcast deals and gambling to 'survive'.

It's just horseshit.

We can cancel the season

The game will be fine.

 

[Pessimistic]

Etihad wouldn't be bad, a closed roof and a controlled environment helps our game plan immensely.

ironically for round 1 they kept the roof open not to qualify as ‘indoor’. One of the most bizarre rulings in cv19 lockdown. Someone’s tiny walled backyard is ‘outdoors’

 

[Skull Face]

"If it can't be a fair fixture then end the season" said no one from Victoria!!!

No hub scenario will be fair, the games shouldn't go ahead until all borders are open again.

Got to love interstate fans worried about fairness when they get half a dozen more home games vs interstate sides

 

[Skull Face]

Victoria has also had more community transmission this week than WA has had for the entire pandemic.

Sure, testing helps expose it but hotspots show up eventually if you miss them.

I agree with the hardline Vic State rules approach being a massive risk to the AFL. If only they had another option....

Community transmission basically results from expanded testing, prior to the start of may if you didn't know someone who had it or had been overseas you weren't even tested.

Under those criteria only severe cases would lead to a community transmission being marked down and from the testing numbers only really VIC and NSW are expanding beyond that.

They don't have another option because they already promised them a maximum of 2 months without family, unless Vic numbers disappear and we join the rest of the county opening up the season is over.

 

[Purple Suit]

Community transmission basically results from expanded testing, prior to the start of may if you didn't know someone who had it or had been overseas you weren't even tested.

Under those criteria only severe cases would lead to a community transmission being marked down and from the testing numbers only really VIC and NSW are expanding beyond that.

They don't have another option because they already promised them a maximum of 2 months without family, unless Vic numbers disappear and we join the rest of the county opening up the season is over.

WA expanded it’s testing a month ago. Anybody with symptoms could get tested. In the last 10 days we’re completed over 15k tests which is around 30% of our total tests. In the same time 1 person has tested positive who was already being quarantined from overseas. If it was going thru the community it would start to show up very soon. Another week or two and we can probably say it’s erradicated, another month and it’s a fact.

If community transmission isn’t happening, it’s hard to find new cases or just keep on testing people for little reason.

 

[Yoey]

No hub scenario will be fair, the games shouldn't go ahead until all borders are open again.

Got to love interstate fans worried about fairness when they get half a dozen more home games vs interstate sides

Your like one of those Chinese bloggers trying to make China look good after infecting half the world with a killer virus and making out you should be thanking them.

 

[Skull Face]

WA expanded it’s testing a month ago. Anybody with symptoms could get tested. In the last 10 days we’re completed over 15k tests which is around 30% of our total tests. In the same time 1 person has tested positive who was already being quarantined from overseas. If it was going thru the community it would start to show up very soon. Another week or two and we can probably say it’s erradicated, another month and it’s a fact.

If community transmission isn’t happening, it’s hard to find new cases or just keep on testing people for little reason.

15k tests in 10 days when Vic is doing 16k in a day, Vic said the same thing a month ago it's only been this last week they have actually done it.

 

[Skull Face]

Your like one of those Chinese bloggers trying to make China look good after infecting half the world with a killer virus and making out you should be thanking them.

What the * are you smoking?

 

[WillHayward]

Whatever solution the AFL come up with...
It's not about the game.
Nor the fans.

It's about trying to pretzel in to the broadcast contract.

Cant believe how easily people comply with this bullshit.

 

[lewdogs]

Whatever solution the AFL come up with...
It's not about the game.
Nor the fans.

It's about trying to pretzel in to the broadcast contract.

Cant believe how easily people comply with this bullshit.

I want football to watch. It will be a word season but something is better than nothing.

 

[Pessimistic]

If travel into and out of WA and SA is difficuly initially, those four clubs could spend two weeks each in qld ans nsw get those games out of the way, week 5 bris play gws, syd play gc adel play freo and wc play port,
week 6 bris play syd, gc play gws, adel play wce and freo play port

by then surely travel is freed up and the season could be normal, with the non vic teams only travelling in and out of vic.

 

[1990crow]

If travel into and out of WA and SA is difficuly initially, those four clubs could spend two weeks each in qld ans nsw get those games out of the way, week 5 bris play gws, syd play gc adel play freo and wc play port,
week 6 bris play syd, gc play gws, adel play wce and freo play port

by then surely travel is freed up and the season could be normal, with the non vic teams only travelling in and out of vic.

The disadvantage is acceptable to Victorians isn't it? So long as its only interstate clubs affected its play ball.

 

[Seadog]

AFL- We can't have WA and SA teams getting a miniscule advantage due to different state govt regulations allowing them to train in groups of ten.

Same AFL- If WA and SA teams are severely disadvantaged when the season restarts due to different state govt regulations they'll just have to suck it up.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

15k tests in 10 days when Vic is doing 16k in a day, Vic said the same thing a month ago it's only been this last week they have actually done it.

Your argument is that WA has substantial community transmission that is going undetected due to a lack of testing is nonsense. If there is any community transmission it would have showed up already. Sick people are getting tested and those sick people don't have Sars-Cov2.

15k tests in 10 days when Vic is doing 16k in a day, Vic said the same thing a month ago it's only been this last week they have actually done it.

Sister works for PathWest and WA was able to broaden the testing criteria because the tests kept on coming back negative. WA's tack and trace regime have been highly effective and local transmission were squashed early on, travel restrictions have limited imported cases and made the job easier.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

AFL- We can't have WA and SA teams getting a miniscule advantage due to different state govt regulations allowing them to train in groups of ten.

Same AFL- If WA and SA teams are severely disadvantaged when the season restarts due to different state govt regulations they'll just have to suck it up.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

AFL - Hubs are too expensive.

Same AFL - let's run the risk of an outbreak in NSW/ Vic killing the season totally. That's affordable.

 

[Obeanie1]

I agree with you but really why would any state government have to pay anything? this is a league cost one would think. There is no financial benefit for any state in this scenario, just a cost. That cost should be for the League not state government.

Plus if the teams dont travel every week the airfare savings automatically offset accomodatuon costs.

Airfare is what $600 return WA to Melbourne?

Pretty sure there would be plenty of empty resorts who will take $600 per week for 35 rooms for a month right now plus fod etc.

 

[Obeanie1]

AFL- We can't have WA and SA teams getting a miniscule advantage due to different state govt regulations allowing them to train in groups of ten.

Same AFL- If WA and SA teams are severely disadvantaged when the season restarts due to different state govt regulations they'll just have to suck it up.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

Can anyone think of any AFL decisions that disadvantaged Vic teams?

I mean we are all called whingers when we point out the multiple rough deals interstate clubs cop so can anyone think of any?

And Carlton getting flogged every season round 1 by Richmond isnt one Imay add.

 

[Gosaints12]

Watched the 1971 grand final a few weeks back.
120 odd thousand fantlatical fans attended.
Many more watched on tv.
Victoria entire population was only 2 million.

I'll bet wafl and SANFL and finals back then we're also huge.

The game is a cultural phenomenon. A quasi religion.

We have now all been brainwashed into thinking the game needs billion dollar broadcast deals and gambling to 'survive'.

It's just horseshit.

We can cancel the season

The game will be fine.

How did we lose that game?

 

[Gosaints12]

If travel into and out of WA and SA is difficuly initially, those four clubs could spend two weeks each in qld ans nsw get those games out of the way, week 5 bris play gws, syd play gc adel play freo and wc play port,
week 6 bris play syd, gc play gws, adel play wce and freo play port

by then surely travel is freed up and the season could be normal, with the non vic teams only travelling in and out of vic.

You could have all those teams play each other. Those that haven’t already, (Port vs GC) and just give those teams a break and work it out evenly later. Allows 4 weeks for SA and WA to open, and then just have 4 back to back home games for those teams.

 

[Walshawk]

WA clubs just need to rent some of the many vacant Airbnb houses. One around St Kilda (train at Junction Oval / Albert Park) and another 20 houses further down towards Seaford where another team can train. Those with families can bring them. Team play most of their games in Melbourne to even things out.
Not that hard really.

 

[Yoey]

WA clubs just need to rent some of the many vacant Airbnb houses. One around St Kilda (train at Junction Oval / Albert Park) and another 20 houses further down towards Seaford where another team can train. Those with families can bring them. Team play most of their games in Melbourne to even things out.
Not that hard really.

I can already see the top 8 after the home and away season...

Rihcmond
Collingwood
Bulldogs
Hawthorn
Essendon
Saints
Melbourne
and dare I say it even Carlton.

 

[Skull Face]

Your argument is that WA has substantial community transmission that is going undetected due to a lack of testing is nonsense. If there is any community transmission it would have showed up already. Sick people are getting tested and those sick people don't have Sars-Cov2.



Sister works for PathWest and WA was able to broaden the testing criteria because the tests kept on coming back negative. WA's tack and trace regime have been highly effective and local transmission were squashed early on, travel restrictions have limited imported cases and made the job easier.

My statement was that you haven't expanded testing, you are still testing the same daily numbers you have been since day 1. The numbers don't lie you can believe the statements but for mine until you see those numbers its all huff and puff. There is no way in hell you have had only 55,000 people show flu like symptoms in the last 3 months.

I also never claimed you had widespread community transmission just that you weren't testing for it, when you have your official numbers down to single figures there isn't going to be that many missing the net. Victoria on the other hand actually has expanded its testing and is finding it thanks to the meat-works * up which means we will stay locked down and the AFL won't be rebooting this year.

 

[Purple Suit]

If travel into and out of WA and SA is difficuly initially, those four clubs could spend two weeks each in qld ans nsw get those games out of the way, week 5 bris play gws, syd play gc adel play freo and wc play port,
week 6 bris play syd, gc play gws, adel play wce and freo play port

by then surely travel is freed up and the season could be normal, with the non vic teams only travelling in and out of vic.

Or, the AFL lets WA and SA teams train tomorrow and start playing games in three weeks. Waiting for Vic to open could just keep stretching out the start date. Another cluster and it’ll add a month.

It should have a roving hub that moves around the country or two spilt hubs. Players can do 4-6 weeks away from home and those that can’t can get leave. Once Vic opens up, WA and SA teams can go there for a spell to share it around.

The priority should be playing games, reducing covid risk and players safety by playing where there is less virus.