Tigers going down the drain....gurgle gurgle....

[kevin sooky]

Good to see the tigers have such a very profitable season.

Lucky they hung on to their collections tins except there will be one major difference this time....no other supporters will make donations this time.

The quicker the Tigers disappear the better.

Now I know why they are hooking up with Coburg. Same financial managers.

 

[Sydneyfan]

Richmond are a great, proud club with a long tradition and I sincerely hope that they never go down the gurgler.

My uncle is a Tiger fan and I remember going to several big matches at the MCG in '95 and experiencing the passion their fans have for the club. When you hear the crowd sing the "yellow and black" part of their song, it sends chills down your back.

Your just envious of their supporters, who despite their lean years, are one of the most passionate and largest (in terms of numbers) in the AFL.

 

[pies rule]

Your kidding.
Richmond fan are the biggest bunch of bandwagon supporters you will ever see. Almost as bad as Melbourne. When the actually win a game there coach is a hero (who ever it is for the month) and they all what to pat Knights on the back.
Then they will lose a game (usually a away game at the G) and go ape sh*t on talk back radio. Bag the crap out of Knights, their coach and crap on about how they have not improved and are so inconsistant. Then the coach I'll go, Kevin Bartlett will pop up in the media for no real reason, and so the cycle goes on (they win a home game under a new coach).

 

[JUBJUB]

SOOKY LALA -Who do you barrack for ? I'm guessing Carlton or maybe Collingwood.

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"Hillbillies are people too"

 

[Bloodstained Angel]

hmmm - and don't forget the omnipotent prescense of a certain Malcolm Brown who will always bob up with some shit like "the Tiges are crap - they need me to run the show"

or shit like that.

cheers

 

[Sydneyfan]

I'd give them more credit than just calling them a bunch of bandwagoners. This season they have the 3rd highest average home crowd attendance in the AFL, 42,663 , not bad for a team that has only been in the finals once between now and their premiership in 1982.

Sure, the Tigers do have a reputation for eating their own, in terms of their coaches, but doesn't that go to show you how passionate they are and how much they love their club.

Collingwood are a proud and passionate club too, don't get me wrong, but so are many other clubs. So you've got to give Richmond credit for still supporting in the numbers they do despite their long lean spell.

 

[ptw]

SydneyFan

systematically sacking coaches does not show passion or commitment to the club.

All it shows is a lack of accountability.

Richmond's problem, from what I can see, is they let everyone off the hook all the time. If you sack the coach then the directors are seen to be doing something. In the back of the player's minds they think..."all that stuff the coach told me about being slack, or not having the balls must have been wrong 'cause they sacked him...I'll just keep going the way I have for the last few years".

In my mind you sack a coach for one reason only....that there is another coach available who is better. Then you are acting in the interests of your club. I have not seen this happen with Richmond at all in the past 10 years. They sack the coach because the club (not only the team) underperforms. A cop out in my eyes.

ptw

 

[CJH]

Hmmm

For perhaps a more objective discussion on our predicament may I direct you to the Richmond board?

ptw,

I agree with you comments wrt coaches. May I also direct you to a thread in the Richmond board called 'Indictment' which elaborates on my feelings on this matter.
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P.S. This is not to undermine the contributions of SydneyFan, BSA, JUBJUB and ptw
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This is a hallucination and these faces are in a dream. A computer generated environment; a fantasy island you can do anything and not have to face the consequences.

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[Sydneyfan]

Ptw

Good point, especially regarding the attitudes of the players to a coaches' sacking, and the attitudes of the club administration.

There does seem to of been a history over the last 12 to 15 years at Richmond where coaches have only had a life of around 2 and a half seasons where they are given one or 2 chances and then as soon as those chances are up, they're given the axe. While the president often only goes if he falls on his sword.

 

[Pessimistic]

Perhaps we should look at the wisdom of making them play at colonial which is uneconomic. Tiges have been going OK fiancially for a few years until they played 4 home games at colonial

 

[Drakey]

I'm concerned Adelaide is heading in the same direction.

4 coaches in 10 years.

But tell me, what do you do if you have a coach who isn't up to it? Is it really better to go on with someone who doesn't have what it takes?

 

[ptw]

Drakey

then by definition there is someone better, and in my mind that is what the directors are there to do.

ptw

 

[NICK THE PIE MAN]

Its never good to see any team go under or in financial trouble. And people on this board rubbing it in should be ashamed of yourself. Put yourself in there position and imagine it was your team. Grow up...

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"Collingwood forever"

 

[sainter]

Richmond will post a significant loss for this year but in reality, many of these are abnormal/extraordinary items anyway.

- Injury payments
- Colonial home games
- Improvements to player facilities
- More money spent on football department
- Membership decrease - poor performance from last year, Colonial Stadium and weekday matches earlier in the year

Then compare the fact that they have no debts with a side like Geelong who are going to post a profit of $77,000 and have $3 million in debts still remaining.



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Fortius Quo Fidelius

 

[Paws]

Sooky says,

Originally posted by kevin sooky:
Good to see the tigers have such a very profitable season.

Lucky they hung on to their collections tins except there will be one major difference this time....no other supporters will make donations this time.

The quicker the Tigers disappear the better.

Now I know why they are hooking up with Coburg. Same financial managers.

*****

Obviously you only look at one thing - Hey Richmond didn't make a profit. THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY DEBT THOUGH. I assume you are smart enough to understand why they made a loss this year and I don't have to explain to you everything else. Geelong made a profit this year and these figures are for the operations of the club in one year, but Geelong have a three million dollar debt to still deal with, Richmond do not. Ask someone to explain it all to you. I'd love Geelong to be in the same position.

I am not a Richmond fan, obviously I am a Cat and I may well despise Richmond (hell they have the best song though) but without the hatred for some clubs for whatever reason, I would be mortified if they were gone. There is no tin rattling anymore, it has been replaced by corporate tin rattling.

On Richmond supporters, I hate them, and that's good, but all this crap about them jumping on and off depending on their fortunes is crap. The small amount who may do this is the same at any club depending on their performances and the way the game is going that most of the die-hards are being priced out of the market. They may very well be the biggest baggers of their team but that is because they care and cannot cope with more of the same, just like many of us cannot who have not had anything to rejoice about for a long time.

I bet not one of those Richmond supporters who bag their players and club are not members. That is their God given right and they do it because it means so much to them.

Maybe the problem is that their members demand so much that they actually cause the problem, they are not willing to wait for a result, therefore they get rid of the first thing that will keep the members happy and fall back another few years.

Don't tell me that the 'Mother Teresa's' of the new age football world in Essendon supporters have never erred in this area. I know heaps of Bombers who wanted Sheedy's head, who took leave form work, who left the country, when the mighty bombers did not return what was expected, especially after they had pumped the chest out saying it was a shame others had to actually play them in the finals as the Cup was theirs. So they made up for it this year, and they had to, and they did, full marks to them but it is a shame they have forgotten so quickly. Just like you.

I remember after a thrashing by Richmond, not this year, a Richmond supporter rejoicing and saying that he had witnessed Geelong and Ablett destroy his team so often that he was going to make sure he enjoyed that night more than any other, he had never seen Richmond defeat Geelong. And why shouldn't he. Hey Sooky, the 'last post' obviously didn't get through your sooky ears.

 

[Richmondfan#1]

I am sick of all this crap about Richmond going down the ****in drain.

Ok, I admit that our financial circumstances aren't the best but we will get through it.

Richmond supporters are GREAT people but like EVERY club,there will be a few people that are not nice and are bandwagoners. But I would say 99.9% of Tiger supporters are decent, loyal, trusting and great people of whom follow the club with a passion.


Kevin sooky:You do not have much evidence to back up your statement. Speak louder and clearer.

 

[Cashflow]

Richmond get stirred simply because they consider the Big 3 to be the Big 4.
This was all well & dandy during the high times but when Bartlett took them to their lowest of lows you could have fired a cannon into the crowd & not hit a 'loyal' Richmond supporter.

I remember a Fitzroy supporter after Paul Roos had done the impossible to snatch victory from Collingwood at Princes Park in one of THE classic games say to me,"Do you think we'll win the flag? Richard Osborne is still to come back!"

 

[Strike_Force]

drip...drip...drip

HAHAHAHA

i can here it now

the tigers plummet and die

YAY! No more tigers in the afl