Competitions Tigers Team Of The 21st Century

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After 20 years of the century the club is looking to put together the Tigers Team of the 21st Century

They have picked a squad of 40 players and are asking the fans to select their sides over the next 40 days and will announce the team as selected by the fans in the lead up to round 1. To qualify for the squad players must played a minimum 50 senior games for Richmond in the 2000s

The 40 players in the squad are:
David Astbury
Joel Bowden
Nathan Brown
Josh Caddy
Leon Cameron
Wayne Campbell
Jason Castagna
Mark Chaffey
Trent Cotchin
Mark Coughlan
Brett Deledio
Shane Edwards
Brandon Ellis
Nathan Foley
Darren Gaspar
Shaun Grigg
Dylan Grimes
Bachar Houli
Daniel Jackson
Kane Johnson
Andrew Kellaway
Matthew Knights
Andrew Krakouer
Kane Lambert
Ivan Maric
Dustin Martin
Toby Nankervis
Chris Newman
Brad Ottens
Kayne Pettifer
Dion Prestia
Alex Rance
Matthew Richardson
Jack Riewoldt
Daniel Rioli
Matthew Rogers
Troy Simmonds
Greg Stafford
Greg Tivendale
Shane Tuck
Nick Vlastuin

FWIW here is my selected side

B: Vlastuin Gasper Grimes
HB: Bowden Rance Houli
C: Grigg Cotchin Deledio
HF: Brown Riewoldt Edwards
F: Rioli Richardson Krakouer
R: Maric Martin Prestia
INT: Ottens Newman Johnson Campbell

 

[Cdog71]

Only possible change I’d make, I think I’d pick Foley ahead of Johnson.

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

B: Vlastuin Rance Grimes
HB: Cameron Nanks Houli
C: Bowden Cotchin Lambo
HF: Brown Riewoldt Lids
F: Edwards Richo Krakouer
R: Stafford Martin Prestia
INT: Ottens Tuck Jacko Rogers

 

[damicky]

B: Vlastuin Rance Grimes
HB: Cameron Nanks Houli
C: Bowden Cotchin Richo
HF: Brown Riewoldt Lids
F: Edwards Tlynch Krakouer
R: Stafford Martin Prestia
INT: Ottens Tuck Jacko Rogers

Lynch hasn’t played enough games to qualify

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

Lynch hasn’t played enough games to qualify

Well that's a ******!!!

 

[Meteoric Rise]

After 20 years of the century the club is looking to put together the Tigers Team of the 21st Century

They have picked a squad of 40 players and are asking the fans to select their sides over the next 40 days and will announce the team as selected by the fans in the lead up to round 1. To qualify for the squad players must played a minimum 50 senior games for Richmond in the 2000s

The 40 players in the squad are:
Joel Bowden
Nathan Brown
Josh Caddy
Leon Cameron
Wayne Campbell
Jason Castagna
Mark Chaffey
Trent Cotchin
Mark Coughlan
Brett Deledio
Shane Edwards
Brandon Ellis
Nathan Foley
Darren Gaspar
Shaun Grigg
Dylan Grimes
Bachar Houli
Daniel Jackson
Kane Johnson
Andrew Kellaway
Andrew Krakouer
Kane Lambert
Ivan Maric
Dustin Martin
Toby Nankervis
Chris Newman
Brad Ottens
Kayne Pettifer
Dion Prestia
Alex Rance
Matthew Richardson
Jack Riewoldt
Daniel Rioli
Matthew Rogers
Troy Simmonds
Greg Stafford
Greg Tivendale
Shane Tuck
Nick Vlastuin

FWIW here is my selected side

B: Vlastuin Gasper Grimes
HB: Bowden Rance Houli
C: Grigg Cotchin Deledio
HF: Brown Riewoldt Edwards
F: Rioli Richardson Krakouer
R: Maric Martin Prestia
INT: Ottens Newman Johnson Campbell

Absolutely love the fact you got Big Ivan into your team.

 

[RunningBounce]

Absolutely love the fact you got Big Ivan into your team.

The rucks are maybe the hardest. There's some bloody good options there... Reckon I'd take Ivvy Senior (or Ivvy the Smaller, depending on how you look at it) too, because his the talisman. Otto in the forward pocket for a chop-out.

 

[damicky]

I wouldn’t have Ottens under any circumstance ... I. Maric/ G. Stafford for me

 

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B: Vlastuin Rance Grimes
HB: Cameron Nanks Houli
C: Bowden Cotchin Lambo
HF: Brown Riewoldt Lids
F: Edwards Richo Krakouer
R: Stafford Martin Prestia
INT: Ottens Tuck Jacko Rogers

No way Nank gets picked at CHB

 

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I wouldn’t have Ottens under any circumstance ... I. Maric/ G. Stafford for me

Is that because how he left, because on performance he is well ahead of Stafford

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

No way Nank gets picked at CHB

Big enough to do the same job as Astbury...good mark...better kick...more mongrel too...

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

Is that because how he left, because on performance he is well ahead of Stafford

Stafford bigger than otto...same work as a ruckman...more mongrel...

 

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Stafford bigger than otto...same work as a ruckman...more mongrel...

Otto was more flexible around the ground and with Maric as the first ruck would give us a nice combo, plus the ability to stretch the opposition defence if we sent him forward with Richo & Jack

Big enough to do the same job as Astbury...good mark...better kick...more mongrel too...

Would get smacked against a smart opposition key forward.

 

[Grrr]

B: Gasper Rance Grimes
HB: Vlastuin Bowden Houli
C: Campbell Cotchin Cameron
HF: Brown Richardson Deledio
F: Edwards Riewoldt Ottens
R: Maric Martin Prestia
INT: Coughlan Foley Newman - Duncan Kellaway (a bit token because he did the dirty jobs that nobody else could/would do)

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

Otto was more flexible around the ground and with Maric as the first ruck would give us a nice combo, plus the ability to stretch the opposition defence if we sent him forward with Richo & Jack
Stafford just as smart as otto...gives flexibilty to richo to go to wing and stafford roams the forward square...
Would get smacked against a smart opposition key forward.
So would Astbury that is why Rance and Grimes have his back...Nanks would mongrel the smart forwards into line...

 

[Cdog71]

Is that because how he left, because on performance he is well ahead of Stafford

Him and Peter Wilson...it still hurts.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Grimes, Gasper,Vlas.
Houli,Rance, Cameron
Bowden,Deledio,Grigg
Brown,JackR,Edwards
Martin, Richo,Ottens
Maric,Prestia,Cotchin
I/C:Lambert,Caddy,Jackson,Foley

 

[rfctigerarmy]

B: Grimes, Rance, Houli
HB: Vlaustin, Bowden, Newman
C: Edwards, Martin, Foley
HF: Deledio, Riewoldt, Lambert
F: Brown, Richardson, Rogers
R: Nankervis, Cotchin, Prestia
INT: Ottens, Cameron, Coughlan, Campbell

 

[Marcel Proust]

dunno bout Gaspar over Astbury

 

[tigerz18]

B: Grimes Rance Vlastuin
HB: Bowden Gaspar Houli
C: Lambert Coughlan Deledio
HF: Rioli Richardson Edwards
F: Ottens Riewoldt Brown
R: Maric Cotchin Martin
Int: Prestia Castagna Johnson Kellaway

Maric/Nank/Grigg as the number 1 ruckman was a tough choice.

 

[Marcel Proust]

B: Grimes Rance Vlastuin
HB: Bowden Gaspar Houli
C: Lambert Coughlan Deledio
HF: Rioli Richardson Edwards
F: Ottens Riewoldt Brown
R: Maric Cotchin Martin
Int: Prestia Castagna Johnson Kellaway

Maric/Nank/Grigg as the number 1 ruckman was a tough choice.

 

[Soberian Tiger]

B: Grimes, Gaspar, Newman
HB: Vlaustin, Rance, Houli
C: Edwards, Campbell, Deledio
HF:Martin, Richardson, Lambert
F: Brown, Riewoldt, Rogers
R: Maric, Grigg, Cotchin (c)
INT: Bowden, Prestia, Jackson, Coughlan

 

[damicky]

Is that because how he left, because on performance he is well ahead of Stafford

Yep ... is that wrong?

 

[DustinsGuns]

Locks:
Cotchin: 2x Premiership captain, Brownlow Medal Winner, 1x AA
Martin: 2x Premiership player, Brownlow Medal Winner, 2x Normsith Medal Winner, 2x BnF winner, 3x AA team
Riewoldt: 2x Permiership player, 3x Coleman Medal Winner, 9x leading goal kicker, 3x AA team
Rance: Premiership player, 5x AA (including one time captain), BnF winner
Richardson: 8x leading goal kicker, BnF winner, 1x AA team
Deledio: 2x BnF winner, Rising Star, 2x AA team
Prestia: 2x Premiership player, 1x BnF winner
Houli: 2x Premiership player, 1x AA team most consistant RFC AFL finals performer this century
Edwards: 2x Premiership player, 1x AA team
Grimes: 2x Premiership player, 1x AA team
Vlastuin: 2x Premiership player
Bowden: 2x BnF winner, 2x AA team

So only have Richardson, Deledio and Bowden as my own non-premiership team locks. That is 12 players.Recency bias for sure but that is where we have had success.

I think similarly there are players you could discard pretty easily.
Locks to miss out:
Pettifer: Handy medium forward but not much else outside two solid seasons
Rogers: similar to above plus most of his career was in the 90s
Chaffey: like him but we have a wealth of medium defender options
Tivendale: a solider but we have better options in that role
Stafford: a few tiers below Richo, Ottens, Riewoldt as a forward and Simmonds, Maric and Nank as a *
Cameron: was awesome in the 2001 campaign but his best football was at the Dogs.

These leaves 22 players for 10 spots and a team that looks like this:
FB: Grimes Rance Bowden
HB: Vlastuin Houli
C: Deledio Martin
HF: Edwards Richardson
FF: Riewoldt
Ruck: Cotchin Prestia
Inter:

Position: Ruck
Comparison: Simmonds vs Maric vs Nankervis
All similar players. Simmonds played the most games and kicked the most goals (93 and 66 respectively). Maric was a cult hero and had was everyones favourite. But Nankervis was a key cog in 2x premierships esspecially as the lone hand in his first season in 2017 so he gets by nod.
Result: Nankervis

Position: Key Defender
Comparison: Kellaway vs Gasper vs Astbury
The team still needs one more key defender. Kellaway is a personal favourite of mine winning the 2000 BnF and AA the same year. However I think Grimes and Bowden have already taken his spots as the hybrid "third tall". So it comes down to Gasper vs Astbury. Gasper was our best player in 2000/2001 imo but the rest of his 2000's were spent often injured. Astbury was a late bloomer but his last 4 years have been integral. Recency bias again, but I go with Astbury. Probably the closest pick.
Result: Astbury

Position: Midfield (3 spots)
Comparison: Foley vs Coughlan vs Tuck vs Campbell vs Johnson vs Jackson vs Grigg vs Ellis
Some serious talent here. Coughlan could have been the best but was cut down by injury after his excellent 2003 so is probably the easiest to eliminate. Campbell and Johnson were both captains in tough times but I think Campbell had the greater impact, even though some of that was in 90s so he makes it. Foley, Tuck and Jackson were our mid 2005-2012 midfield. I think Foley was a greater offensive weapon with his speed and clearance work than the other two so I have him on the bench. These leves the two genuine wings in Grigg and Ellis. Ellis was much maligned but will end up a two time premiership player. I still think however Grigg had the greater impact so he gets the spot. Plus you know, back up ruck.
Result: Campbell, Foley, Grigg

Forwards: (3 spots)
Comparison: Brown vs Caddy vs Castagna vs Krakouer vs Ottens vs Rioli vs Simmonds vs Lambert
Brown is in despite his injuries. He still ended up kicking 143 goals in 82 games and would be a tier ahead of the rest of the competition here. As far as specialist small forwards go Castagna has Rioli covered. He makes alot more mistakes but he is a goal a game player and is more active around the ground. In saying this, Krakouer did what Castagna and Rioli have done but for longer so he gets the spot in the pocket. Last spot goes to Lambert who I believe is an elite mid-forward. Simmonds was a better ruck than forward, Ottens was up and down with most of his success coming at Geelong and Caddy has only put in one really quality season.
Result: Brown, Krakouer, Lambert

This leaves two bench spots which I'm giving to Newman who I think was an excellent captain and helped shape the culture that we see today, and Jackson who was a ferocious compitor and BnF winner

FB: Grimes Astbury Bowden
HB: Vlastuin Rance Houli
C: Deledio Martin Grigg
HF: Edwards Richardson Lambert
FF: Brown Riewoldt Krakouer
Ruck: Nankervis Cotchin Prestia
Inter: Campbell Foley Newman Jackson

 

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Yep ... is that wrong?

Nope, if that's your opinion